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post #6211 of 7128
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Originally Posted by montanari View Post

just noticed this post
sorry
I used the combo lcd2.2+graham ulde till a couple of months ago
very nice sound but I felt something missing too
so I "upgraded" to a burson conductor
that for sure as more juicy of the ulde, and you can feel immediately
but the graham sound better..less grainy and more linear and dark separation, and I prefer the size of the graham as well
I guess the ulde with the lcd X should be amazing
pay attention to the dac, I used a concero hd that missed a bit of detail
much better the dac inside the burson, but again: very grainy and noisy form the usb port
right now I m listening audeze/conductor using the concero hd as converter
and it s wonderful

Which one is better between lcd X with graham slee UL or burson soloist SL?
I have both soloist and UL and i interest with lcd X
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Thank you
post #6212 of 7128
I don't have the X, I don't have the SL
Some friends told me the SL is not the top..
So I guess the UL
But you have both the amps
You should tell us!
post #6213 of 7128
Got myself a used alo pan am + passport and so far very impressed even surprised by the increase in sound quality.
post #6214 of 7128
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Originally Posted by montanari View Post

I don't have the X, I don't have the SL
Some friends told me the SL is not the top..
So I guess the UL
But you have both the amps
You should tell us!

Hahaha
Yes indeed UL is very clear and "linear", but i dont think Graham slee is suitable with planar like lcd2
I dont think it had enough "current power"
I like hd650 very very much when it comes from UL (and spl phonitor). But not lcd2 (and lcd3 also)
And i think SL can make lcd sings better than UL

My friend told me that X is much better than lcd2

I tought u have X ,and burson. Thats why i asked you about X, burson, and UL
My english is very bad
post #6215 of 7128
Ahhhh

May i ask the different between Ul and ULde?
I cant found ULde in my country
post #6216 of 7128

I HAVE the lcd2.2

the burson conductor

the graham slee ultra linear Diamond Ediotion (the new/last one)

it seems he (Graham) has fixed some hiss issue, that you could heard from a low impedance headphone like grado

i had grado gs1000 driven by the ulde and never heard any noise, was actually a very good combo

 

friends with lcdX said me that are easily drive from a dap too, so i guess UL should be very pleasant

but no, for lcd2 is not enough

my english is very bad as well!

ciaoo

post #6217 of 7128
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Originally Posted by montanari View Post

I HAVE the lcd2.2
the burson conductor
the graham slee ultra linear Diamond Ediotion (the new/last one)
it seems he (Graham) has fixed some hiss issue, that you could heard from a low impedance headphone like grado
i had grado gs1000 driven by the ulde and never heard any noise, was actually a very good combo

friends with lcdX said me that are easily drive from a dap too, so i guess UL should be very pleasant
but no, for lcd2 is not enough
my english is very bad as well!
ciaoo

Ah yes. UL that i have is the old UL (not de)
Noise when it connect to iem (i am an iem user)

Is ULde noise when connect to iem?

Sometimes i plug my iem to desktop amp hahahaha
post #6218 of 7128
I dont have any iem
I'm sorry
post #6219 of 7128

Guys, I wouldn't worry at all about the newer LCD2s dipping a little below 40hz.  I have the LCD2 'classic' that is flat to 10hz even and the 20hz sineweep sounds much lower than a 20hz sinesweep with the D7000s...so I am making an educated guess that because it is an open headphone that it is true 20hz and not frequency doubling that occurs in closed cans.

 

Back to my point, almost all music is produced and monitored, not just with nearfield monitors, but also big ass monitors in the control room.  But even these big ass monitors can not go flat to 20hz and inevitably rolls off.  It's the laws of physics.  So in many tracks, If I rolloff the from 40hz with an EQ - the sound is more coherent, or more to the producers intent.

post #6220 of 7128

Do each one of them have their own graph.  So, every LCD has slight FR variations to them, is that why they ship it with it's own graph?

post #6221 of 7128
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Originally Posted by bjrnrb View Post
 

I'm thinking about swapping my V200 with the Red Wine Audio Isabellina HPA.

 

Any comments/thoughts?

Actually, I've heard an LCD3 with the Isabella(Sorry, not Isabellina) at the NY meet, and I thought it was a better sounding setup than STAX 009 with Blue Hawii Amp.


Edited by SilverEars - 4/12/14 at 10:44am
post #6222 of 7128
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

Do each one of them have their own graph.  So, every LCD has slight FR variations to them, is that why they ship it with it's own graph?

All headphones have slight FR variations. Each driver made will sound slightly different. These are matched on good headphones and not matched on bad ones.
post #6223 of 7128

For those that are amp rolling, which amp goes well with the LCD-2?


Edited by SilverEars - 4/12/14 at 12:32pm
post #6224 of 7128

I own the Beyerdynamic T1 and Senn HD600, so could someone who owns or has heard both of these compare them to the LCD2 Rev 2, please?

 

In my opinion, the T1's pretty much do everything better than the HD600s (as you would expect), but in many ways the T1's are too distant and not as fun to listen to as the Senn's. Dare I say, the HD600's are actually a bit too harsh in the treble every now and then, although the O2 and ODAC combination might have something to do with that. Clearly, the same applies to the T1's for me as well.

 

It's a shame that I'll never be able to get the best out of the T1's, as the Bottlehead Crack I ordered was damaged in transit so doesn't work. I will likely trade my T1's for LCD2's on this forum, if I can.

 

I'm seriously starting to think that the Audeze's may be the perfect cans for me. Another plus is that the O2 seems like a decent enough amp for the LCD2's until I upgrade, and the vast majority of my music is all kinds of rock and pop.

 

So, T1, HD600 and LCD2 Rev 2 comparison if you'd be so kind. May as well throw the HE-500's into the mix as well :) 


Edited by sotto123 - 4/12/14 at 3:33pm
post #6225 of 7128

I have the O2, and Rev. 2 sounds better than my 650(I don't think 650 works well with O2) with it, I just have to do more listening to see if O2 works well with Rev. 2.  I'll be getting my Beta 22 soon, and find out if it's better.  I've heard LCD-2 and Beta 22 at a meet and was impression with the setup, so I'm crossing my fingers.


Edited by SilverEars - 4/12/14 at 2:33pm
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