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Is it quite flat, in terms of frequency response?

It sure sounds that way. Very extended at both extremes and neutral in the midrange.
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The Schiit Mjolnir is one of the best choices.

Is it quite flat, in terms of frequency response?

If you mean there is no undue emphasis of bass, treble or midrange then, yes, I would definitely say the Mjolnir has a flat frequency response. I believe the result is incredibly "natural" sound from my LCD 2's.
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I'd say the Mojo is flat sounding with a slight peak emphasis (note keyword very slight) on the treble, this suits and pairs perfectly with the LCD2's treble which is a notch or two down which on some genres/music and to some people's ears can sound shelved and the bass overpowering. 

 

If you already have balanced source/cables and/or tailoring your setup to be balanced with whatever budget that allows you to, the Mojo is a no questions asked Buy me now sort of amp for these cans. 

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All good amplifiers measure objectively flat and neutral.  Any tonal shifts one my perceive subjectively will be far less greater than the variation found in recorded music.  Are we here to enjoy music or are we here to nitpick?

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All good amplifiers measure objectively flat and neutral. 

 

Not true, applies to all types of amplifiers not just headphone amp's. Amp's are not DAC's. 

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Not true, applies to all types of amplifiers not just headphone amp's. Amp's are not DAC's. 

 

Which good amplifier does not measure flat - show me.

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I'd say the Mojo is flat sounding with a slight peak emphasis (note keyword very slight) on the treble, this suits and pairs perfectly with the LCD2's treble which is a notch or two down which on some genres/music and to some people's ears can sound shelved and the bass overpowering. 

 

If you already have balanced source/cables and/or tailoring your setup to be balanced with whatever budget that allows you to, the Mojo is a no questions asked Buy me now sort of amp for these cans. 

 

Not too long ago, when the HD650 was euphonic and bright cans were neutral according to the 'experts'...I pondered why it is that my subjective experiences were against 'common knowledge'.

 

Perhaps I have hearing loss in bass and required 'boosted bass' - as a result of me listening to engines day in day out for years.  I believed that must be the case and had no issues with that.  I was just thankful that Senheisser was graceful enough to provide the only headphone that catered for people with hearing loss such as myself with 'boosted' bass so that I can perceive a balanced sound.

 

If I do have hearing damage I have no issues with that.

 

But lets flip it the other way around and we suggest that hearing damage is the reason people perceive brighter cans as a balanced sound...then again lets not.

 

:wink_face:

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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Which good amplifier does not measure flat - show me.

Which amplifier measures flat in terms of what you're describing using "headphone subjective terms" - show me. Distortion measurement does not equal flat measurement. Amplifiers are not headphones. 

 

Crap sounding amplifiers can measure good in one sub group of distortion measurement, dynamic range and p2p voltage.

 

Good sounding amplifiers can measure poorly in one sub group or distortion measurement, dynamic range and p2p voltage.

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Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 12:24am
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mojo and v-200 are great. My vote still goes to the bryston though.

I don't know. I had one for a while and the treble was a little bit too much. That never happens with the Mjolnir.
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I don't know. I had one for a while and the treble was a little bit too much. That never happens with the Mjolnir.


the treble of the bryston was too much ? hmmmmm, i find it more refined, and sweeter than the mjo, at least with the lcd x, i didn't get to hear the

lcd2 with the bryston

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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

Which amplifier measures flat in terms of what you're describing using "headphone subjective terms" - show me. Distortion measurement does not equal flat measurement. Amplifiers are not headphones. 

 

Crap sounding amplifiers can measure good in one sub group of distortion measurement, dynamic range and p2p voltage.

 

Good sounding amplifiers can measure poorly in one sub group or distortion measurement, dynamic range and p2p voltage.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AllAmpsJuly2013.pdf

 

If I'm not mistaken, all good amplifiers measure flat and neutral.  Or are we going to start nitpicking again?

 

I'm not going to argue that we perceive a tilt in response...from my experience - any tilit is minor compared to the variations from recording to recording.

 

Pick any good amp you prefer, and lets not argue that we have magically transformed the frequency response.  I have my preferences - regardless of what people say...it is still going to be an extremely neutral setup.  Fact.


Edited by SP Wild - 2/16/14 at 7:44am
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I'm actually really surprised there is such a strong variation between amps, especially in the bass area.

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the treble of the bryston was too much ? hmmmmm, i find it more refined, and sweeter than the mjo, at least with the lcd x, i didn't get to hear the
lcd2 with the bryston

It just goes to show that at a certain level of performance, it's each person's perception that becomes the biggest variable.
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It just goes to show that at a certain level of performance, it's each person's perception that becomes the biggest variable.


yes, exactly, and nobody is right or wrong, if we like it, its good !

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