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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That's called the honeymoon period. If you stopped using the LCD2 for a few weeks and went back to those headphones, you'd hear why you liked them in the first place. Just because what you have now is 'better' doesn't make your older cans suddenly bad.

That's a mistake people make here. They have a tendency of calling their old headphones crap, because they're in their honeymoon phase. It's illogical to believe a headphone you loved for so long is now just bad. Go back, let your ears and brain adjust, and you'll find that they're as good as you remembered.
+1, I couldnt agree more, sometimes I hate it redface.gif
post #5567 of 6758
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That's called the honeymoon period. If you stopped using the LCD2 for a few weeks and went back to those headphones, you'd hear why you liked them in the first place. Just because what you have now is 'better' doesn't make your older cans suddenly bad.

That's a mistake people make here. They have a tendency of calling their old headphones crap, because they're in their honeymoon phase. It's illogical to believe a headphone you loved for so long is now just bad. Go back, let your ears and brain adjust, and you'll find that they're as good as you remembered.

 

No, it's not that...it's never happened with my other headphone purchases. It's because my ears just respond to planar drivers...like I said, the same thing happened with Maggies. 

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No, it's not that...it's never happened with my other headphone purchases. It's because my ears just respond to planar drivers...like I said, the same thing happened with Maggies.

Hey I believe you man. I love my LCD-2 as well.:bigsmile_face:

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

Hey I believe you man. I love my LCD-2 as well.:bigsmile_face:

 

wow, someone else who actually owns a pair? lol

 

There's just something about planar drivers with me...I find them to be more transparent than dynamic drivers and my ears just get addicted. I'm a proponent of having several headphones to rotate among as opposed to just one "best" one, and I've been having a blast with that approach for a good while now. But there's never been this much of a contrast for me when I go back to one of my other headphones like there is with these things. 

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wow, someone else who actually owns a pair? lol

 

There's just something about planar drivers with me...I find them to be more transparent than dynamic drivers and my ears just get addicted. I'm a proponent of having several headphones to rotate among as opposed to just one "best" one, and I've been having a blast with that approach for a good while now. But there's never been this much of a contrast for me when I go back to one of my other headphones like there is with these things.

I love planars too. So damn fast and clean, nothing really like it once you get used to it. Even the Beyer Tesla feels grainy and slower too me. I know LCD-2 is no longer a big deal or barely even mentioned anymore but it's seriously a nice headphone and easy to love.:atsmile:

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wow, someone else who actually owns a pair? lol

There's just something about planar drivers with me...I find them to be more transparent than dynamic drivers and my ears just get addicted. I'm a proponent of having several headphones to rotate among as opposed to just one "best" one, and I've been having a blast with that approach for a good while now. But there's never been this much of a contrast for me when I go back to one of my other headphones like there is with these things. 
Now he tells me.😄 I just for a TH 900 yesterday.
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wow, someone else who actually owns a pair? lol

There's just something about planar drivers with me...I find them to be more transparent than dynamic drivers and my ears just get addicted. I'm a proponent of having several headphones to rotate among as opposed to just one "best" one, and I've been having a blast with that approach for a good while now. But there's never been this much of a contrast for me when I go back to one of my other headphones like there is with these things.
I love planars too. So damn fast and clean, nothing really like it once you get used to it. Even the Beyer Tesla feels grainy and slower too me. I know LCD-2 is no longer a big deal or barely even mentioned anymore but it's seriously a nice headphone and easy to love.atsmile.gif
Beyers grainy and slower in comparison? ...I don't know about that one.
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This is NOT good...

 

I've been wearing these non-stop since Monday...and today when I tried a few of my other headphones, all of a sudden they don't sound as good as they sounded before these damn LCD2s showed up. I've worked really hard to put together a small collection of phones that I really enjoy rotating through...I can't have ONE headphone ruining me for all the others! 

 

I had a feeling this may happen...when I discovered Magnepans, they pretty much ruined me for any and all box speakers after that. All cone and dome drivers sound veiled and less realistic, and now I'm afraid it's happening with planar headphones. 

 

AAARRRGHHH!!!


Like others have said its just an effect of listening to the LCD2 by itself for a time.

 

It happens with most of my headphones, when I listen to one for 10-15 hours without changes over a day or two then go to another one it sounds "wrong" in certain areas. After a while I rediscover the qualities of the other phone and the cycle repeats. Its just the brain getting used to the signature and becoming accustomed.

 

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Beyers grainy and slower in comparison? ...I don't know about that one.


I think it is as well. The T1 for me is a lot better with slower and less layered complex music.

 

I think I've read that it has a slower impulse response or something.


Edited by Saren - 10/11/13 at 2:07am
post #5574 of 6758

Every headphone has it's strengths and weaknesses, this is even more evident with different genre's. There are headphones that are just good with all kinds of genres and it is not your usual dynamic transducer headphone.

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Beyers grainy and slower in comparison? ...I don't know about that one.

Yeah I don't know either. That's just how I subjectively hear it--I might be wrong. The tesla tech is fast, much faster than traditional dynamics, but it sounds slower than the LCD-2/HE-500 for me.

post #5576 of 6758
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
...Even the Beyer Tesla feels grainy and slower too me...

I wouldn't say LCD-2s are fast headphones.

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That's because the idiots at Beyerdynamic decided not to add any sort of dampening to the inner housing, so what you get is grainy sounding sibilant and bright treble. The Tesla transducer also requires good currents, it's got the same wonky impedence behaviour as the HD800 where it actually goes over the rated 600ohm's at times. Fix the dampening problem and feed it some clean power and it shines.

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Originally Posted by korzena View Post
 

I wouldn't say LCD-2s are fast headphones

I'm talking about transient response, the actual speed of the drivers moving through the air, back and forth, creating sound. Not how bright they sound. I get the feeling when you think "fast" you're thinking more potent treble, like Grado, if not my apologies. With giant neodymium magnets on both sides of a diaphram creating a huge mangetic flux I think they move pretty damn fast, faster than everything except other planars and stats. Maybe the ring radiator from Sennheiser is faster too, but that's about it. So yeah I would consider them pretty damn fast. Faster than tesla and faster than even balanced armatures in IEMs. At least that's how I hear it.


Edited by M-13 - 10/11/13 at 2:33am
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I have the LCD2.2, He6, T1 and HD800's and feel that they are all fast phones. However I feel that the fastest of the lot is the HD800's.

Given much more power I feel the HE6's could maybe be at least as fast.


Edited by nigeljames - 10/11/13 at 2:58am
post #5580 of 6758
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

I'm talking about transient response, the actual speed of the drivers moving through the air, back and forth, creating sound. Not how bright they sound. I get the feeling when you think "fast" you're thinking more potent treble, like Grado, if not my apologies. With giant neodymium magnets on both sides of a diaphram creating a huge mangetic flux I think they move pretty damn fast, faster than everything except other planars and stats. Maybe the ring radiator from Sennheiser is faster too, but that's about it. So yeah I would consider them pretty damn fast. Faster than tesla and faster than even balanced armatures in IEMs. At least that's how I hear it.

I was talking about how energetic/speedy different headphones sound. With my HE-400 I feel more energy and speed. I don't know the technical reasons behind it.

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