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I was thinking about the description youve mention around my ears on a day with 110 degrees.. Oh god.

Oh man, don't even bring that up, just so you now it's hot here and we heading towards Summer. 

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I was thinking about the description youve mention around my ears on a day with 110 degrees.. Oh god.
Oh man, don't even bring that up, just so you now it's hot here and we heading towards Summer. 
Lol, in that case I suggest you use the HD800 for that period. My ears and LCDs had a rough summer this year redface.gif
post #5538 of 7128
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No, that's an assumption. I assume, that due to the differences the vegan and leather pads make on sound signature, Audeze has to tune them differently to give them the LCD2 target response curve, which is why when you buy vegan pads for the leather LCD2, it won't sound the same.

Again, this is an assumption, because having compared a vegan and leather directly, the sound was basically identical, yet people are saying that the vegan pads are reducing their bass on their LCD2s.

 

The assumption sounds very reasonable. I wonder if there is anybody here with the knowledge that could confirm it.

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No, that's an assumption. I assume, that due to the differences the vegan and leather pads make on sound signature, Audeze has to tune them differently to give them the LCD2 target response curve, which is why when you buy vegan pads for the leather LCD2, it won't sound the same.


Again, this is an assumption, because having compared a vegan and leather directly, the sound was basically identical, yet people are saying that the vegan pads are reducing their bass on their LCD2s.

The assumption sounds very reasonable. I wonder if there is anybody here with the knowledge that could confirm it.
The whole vegan vs leather pad really shouldnt be a huge factor in making a decision on weather you should buy the LCD or not.

There are far more important aspects of the headphones that should be taken into consideration.
Edited by DarKen23 - 10/9/13 at 2:56am
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The whole vegan vs leather pad really shouldnt be a huge factor in making a decision on weather you should buy the LCD or not.

There are far more important aspects of the headphones that should be taken into consideration.

 

I've got my LCDs for months now. I just want to see if I can make them even better:)

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The whole vegan vs leather pad really shouldnt be a huge factor in making a decision on weather you should buy the LCD or not.


There are far more important aspects of the headphones that should be taken into consideration.

I've got my LCDs for months now. I just want to see if I can make them even better:)
LCD3 pads tongue.gif

Jokes aside, try using TB Isone or Isone Pro, I couldnt listen to anything without having isone in the chain once I had everything calibrated. http://www.head-fi.org/t/473885/isone-pro-the-best-thing-you-could-ever-get-for-your-headphones-on-your-computer
Edited by DarKen23 - 10/9/13 at 3:34am
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LCD3 pads tongue.gif

Jokes aside, try using TB Isone or Isone Pro, I couldnt listen to anything without having isone in the chain once I had everything calibrated. http://www.head-fi.org/t/473885/isone-pro-the-best-thing-you-could-ever-get-for-your-headphones-on-your-computer

 

Well, when I listen to the music that needs more space/air I use DSP effects in my player - j.river media center (concert hall-3 or 4 and surround enhancement-medium) - they work pretty well with my LCD-2:-) Although it's a shame that I have to use them to fully enjoy this quite an expensive headphone.


Edited by korzena - 10/9/13 at 5:37am
post #5543 of 7128
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

No, that's an assumption. I assume, that due to the differences the vegan and leather pads make on sound signature, Audeze has to tune them differently to give them the LCD2 target response curve, which is why when you buy vegan pads for the leather LCD2, it won't sound the same...

I've never head anyone else mention this and it doesn't make sense to me. How would Audeze "tune" the drivers? Are you also assuming HiFiMan "tunes" the drivers for pleather or cloth pads? You know what they say about assumptions.
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Well, considering all their drivers are tuned to mnatch the target response curve, why would wouldn't it make sense for the vegan pads to NOT be tuned to match that curve? All I'm implying is that they may have have to be tuned a little differently to compensate for the changes that the pads make to match that target curve compared to when they're tuned for leather pads. I don't think it's farfetched.

If they're anything like AKG tunes their 70x series, each driver is tuned and tweaked until they hit their target curve before they're finalized and packaged.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/9/13 at 8:42am
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Well, considering all their drivers are tuned to mnatch the target response curve, why would wouldn't it make sense for the vegan pads to NOT be tuned to match that curve? All I'm implying is that they may have have to be tuned a little differently to compensate for the changes that the pads make to match that target curve compared to when they're tuned for leather pads. I don't think it's farfetched.

 

Definitely could be, though we're also assuming that the drivers are tuned after being installed in the headset (as if they are being placed on a Newman head).  They could be tuned in a manner more cost effective for an assembly line that doesn't involve a Newman head.

 

Then again, the "tuning" part of the assembly line could be a separate room where an entire rack of headphones are rolled in and a technician places a complete headphone on a Newman head, tests, tunes to within specifications, then prints the final frequency graph and places the headphone and graph on a "completion rack" where it's rolled off to packaging.

 

I'd love to see some photos of the assembly plant.

 

One final thought is that the effect on sound that vegan/leather pads have on a Newman head is not substantial enough to be outside of normal tolerances (as defined by the mfg).  So, any differences in sound between leather pads and vegan pads you heard may be within the normal variation for sound differences between two headphones.

post #5546 of 7128
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In comparison to basically every other headphone I have owned, the LCD2 IS like wearing two cement blocks on the head. It's a quite a heifer in comparison. Nothing else has come close to it's weight for me.

 

Lol, the weight was the only reason I STOPPED buying Audeze, altho LCD3 is bit lighter.

 

Plus, I really don't like the angle pads, why can't they just make non-angled pads like Hifiman ?

I am willing to give up the sound stage over comfort.

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LCD3 pads tongue.gif


Jokes aside, try using TB Isone or Isone Pro, I couldnt listen to anything without having isone in the chain once I had everything calibrated. http://www.head-fi.org/t/473885/isone-pro-the-best-thing-you-could-ever-get-for-your-headphones-on-your-computer

Well, when I listen to the music that needs more space/air I use DSP effects in my player - j.river media center (concert hall-3 or 4 and surround enhancement-medium) - they work pretty well with my LCD-2:-) Although it's a shame that I have to use them to fully enjoy this quite an expensive headphone.
Isone is far better than the DSP and crossfeeds that are offered from JRiver.
post #5548 of 7128

I've had mine on for four hours so far today...the fit is snug without being overly clamping and when they're on my head I can't tell they are any heavier than my T1s...there's just no way I'd ever consider sending these back because of the weight and/or comfort. These leather pads are incredibly comfortable to me...with the crossfeed engaged on my Meier amp, I'm already getting addicted to this sound. I'm not ready to say they are my new favorite, but they are already at least on par with my T1s...I've never been much of a solid state guy, but the Meier stack just continues to impress me with how well it pairs with my phones. I still prefer my Little Dot with my Grados, but the T1s and LCDs just sing with the Meier gear. 

 

The long wait to get into a planar phone was well worth it..I"m looking forward to trying the Hifiman HE500s soon to compare, as well. But in the meantime, I'm very smitten with these beauties....

 

By the way, if anyone wants a great sounding CD, check out Melody Gardot...just beautiful. 

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Audeze Support, Oct 09 11:13 am (PDT):
Hello Barry,

All of our headphones are manufactured the same way. There is no difference in the drivers between the leather and leather free headphones. The ear pads have the same foam density all across the board. The only difference is the feel of the material. One is leather and the other one is Microsuade. It really comes down to personal preference.

Thank you very much,
Audez'e Support
post #5550 of 7128

I'm feeling a strong urge to acquire a pair of these. Trying to resist. I had the leather on loan and it didn't bother me. Is $840 shipped on a near mint bamboo pair a fair deal?

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