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post #5071 of 7128
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

To be honest, if you prefer the 6 to the Lcd3, then even when plugged in a Marantz receiver, the 6 would be better.

 

On the contrary, if you prefer the Lcd3 sound, plugging the 6 into a megabucks amp won't help.

 

That just hurt my brain(s).  Why do people compare the two then?

post #5072 of 7128
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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post

 

That just hurt my brain(s).  Why do people compare the two then?

 

There're Flagships..

post #5073 of 7128
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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post

 

That just hurt my brain(s).  Why do people compare the two then?

People on head-fi have pretty strong brand loyalty. Also people like to play the "A is better and blows B out of the water" game. tongue_smile.gif


Edited by khaine1711 - 5/4/13 at 4:43pm
post #5074 of 7128
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


I think by now, people should already realize the percentage is a guesstimation of how we feel they sound like, not a definitive or even correct answer.

I agree with what Khaine just said, regardless of what you plug them into, if you have a preference for a headphone, changing whatever you're plugging them into isn't gonna magically change your mind. Not sure I'd use the HE-6 as an example though, as I'm pretty sure using lesser equipment will make them sound... not right, if my HE-4 experience proved anything.

IMO, they're misleading all together. Regardless of what your lucky number is.

 

You can prefer x headphone while still acknowledging another headphone's attributes, and or superiority. 


Edited by paradoxper - 5/4/13 at 4:44pm
post #5075 of 7128
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

People on head-fi have pretty strong brand loyalty. Also people like to play the "A is better and blows B out of the water" game. tongue_smile.gif

 

Hard to avoid that, I guess, but this thread seems to have been plagued by it.

post #5076 of 7128
I've got the LCD's balanced on my NFB- 10 and I honestly don't think its much better than my Quickstep with 15v psu. I actually believe I could fool some people into thinking the Quickstep was a desktop amp in a blind test. I think MLE is on the right track here with the LCD's. Now if we were talking about the he 500's that'd be different.
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Careful, someone will say the NFB-10 is too affordable to truly gauge the LCD2. wink.gif

 

 

That's not fair.  This argument isn't about price.  What Dryvadeum wrote might be true, but that doesn't mean a more expensive, or (different) less expensive amp, wouldn't yield different results.  Some of the best results heard on LCD2's have been though amps that happen to be super expensive.  We're left to those who have had real experience with those amps, and the amps the rest of us have had, to make comparisons.  There's no sense for those of us who are just speculating to ridicule those with real experience.


Edited by OPR8R - 5/4/13 at 5:06pm
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It's ridiculous to refute that what you hear is the sum of all the components in your chain. Garbage in, garbage out - as the mantra goes. Most who've had first hand experience will agree the LCD-2 doesn't convey the quality of upstream components as starkly as other transducers, e.g. the HD800. However, the improvements are there and can be worth the price of admission for some.

 

Most of the arguments presented are valid. I think we all agree the headphone is the most important part of the chain. The LCD-2 is a good headphone and sounds decent from almost any source/amp. It deteriorates when people try to impose their views on others in matters that are personal, i.e. what improvements do I consider justifiable and how much am I willing to spend to get there?

 

My take? Buy the headphone (any headphone) if you want it that much. Just be advised that it may expose the flaws upstream and you may be left scratching your head as to what all the fuss was about.


Edited by olor1n - 5/4/13 at 4:57pm
post #5079 of 7128
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That's not fair.

Neither is when people belittle other's equipment by saying they wasted their money.
post #5080 of 7128
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


Neither is when people belittle other's equipment by saying they wasted their money.

I never saw any "belittling".  Maybe I missed it.

 

This argument isn't about price.  What Dryvadeum wrote might be true, but that doesn't mean a more expensive, or (different) less expensive amp, wouldn't yield different results.  Some of the best results heard on LCD2's have been though amps that happen to be super expensive.  We're left to those who have had real experience with those amps, and the amps the rest of us have had, to make comparisons.  There's no sense for those of us who are just speculating to ridicule those with real experience.

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No one is belittling $100 gear, its using it in conjunction with $1000+ headphones that is what is being commented on. Let's try this, with a FiiO or O2 amp and equal DAC/SOURCE, one is getting 70% of what the headphones can offer. That's a waste of $300 (100-70% of $1000). 

 

Then you'll have the same people (and I'm making generalizations here...you aren't one of these folks) then slag said headphones for not truly wowing them. Well, no Schiit Sherlock. 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 5/4/13 at 5:10pm
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Tell me what you think about this:

 

LCD-2.2 / Magni

 

vs.

 

LCd-2.2 / Mjolnir

 

For me the LCD-2.2 / Mjolnir was the best I've heard these headphones.  On the Magni was worse I've heard them.

 

Two amps from the same company..

post #5083 of 7128
It goes both ways. He's stuck on Summit-fi, so how does he now lesser equipment don't stack up to such expensive gear? Has he spent time with his so called "entry level" setups? I doubt it.

First is 50%, now it's 70%

Percentages are changing.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/4/13 at 5:13pm
post #5084 of 7128
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It goes both ways. He's stuck on Summit-fi, so how does he now lesser equipment don't stack up to such expensive gear? Has he spent time with his so called "entry level" setups? I doubt it.

First is 50%, not it's 70%

Percentages are changing.

Generally speaking and it depends on the $100 amp. tongue.gif Then let's use 50% and it is a $500 waste. Again, I can't understand how you're being so persistent without any first hand experience. If you're ever in Toronto, you're welcome to drop by. I'm not saying $2000+ minimum. As prepoman put it, a Mjolnir used ($600ish) is a FANTASTIC choice for the LCD-2s and will really let you get the most out of the transducers! Alternatively my Liquid Fire /w Siemens tubes ran about $3750 and my GS-X ($2500) was clearly head above shoulders better. Price isn't always the biggest factor.

post #5085 of 7128
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Tell me what you think about this:

 

LCD-2.2 / Magni

 

vs.

 

LCd-2.2 / Mjolnir

 

For me the LCD-2.2 / Mjolnir was the best I've heard these headphones.  On the Magni was worse I've heard them.

 

Two amps from the same company..

Bingo. Very well put. smile.gif

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