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Holy schit, why didn't I ever browse on the Passlabs sections????????

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The LCD-2 is no slouch on scalability. I see far too many people buying an LCD-2, or even just getting a loaner of an LCD-2, playing it on an average to poor amp/source and then dismissing it as being nothing special. I even read one review that said it sounds like the Mad Dogs, I'm sure it does, from a source that rolls off the bass at 50hz.

 

IMHO if you haven't heard the LCD-2 from the GS-X or Mjolnir then you haven't heard what it can do at all. In that regard, it's no less a pain in the ass to get optimal results than with the HE-6.

 

Very rewarding though biggrin.gif

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Everyone loves the LCD2's right?

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Everyone loves the LCD2's right?

 

They should, they are an amazing headphone biggrin.gif

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They should, they are an amazing headphone biggrin.gif

Girls love wood. 

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Girls love wood. 

 

With a well extended bottom.

 

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With a well extended bottom.

 

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hehe you didn't get my joke.

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The LCD-2 is no slouch on scalability. I see far too many people buying an LCD-2, or even just getting a loaner of an LCD-2, playing it on an average to poor amp/source and then dismissing it as being nothing special. I even read one review that said it sounds like the Mad Dogs, I'm sure it does, from a source that rolls off the bass at 50hz.

 

IMHO if you haven't heard the LCD-2 from the GS-X or Mjolnir then you haven't heard what it can do at all. In that regard, it's no less a pain in the ass to get optimal results than with the HE-6.

 

Very rewarding though biggrin.gif

Very true. Although I have not listened to a LCD3, would have to say that the 2.2's are just amazing when paired with Mjolnir/Gungnir. Really I see no need to even try to upgrade any part of my little system at all at this time. Maybe a new fancy looking cable someday but that mainly for vanity/aesthetics as I have serious doubts a cable can measurably enhance signal transmission. Anyway these phones just sound awesome on every type of music I have tried them on. Very very happy with this system the way it is.

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The LCD-2 is no slouch on scalability. I see far too many people buying an LCD-2, or even just getting a loaner of an LCD-2, playing it on an average to poor amp/source and then dismissing it as being nothing special. I even read one review that said it sounds like the Mad Dogs, I'm sure it does, from a source that rolls off the bass at 50hz.

 

IMHO if you haven't heard the LCD-2 from the GS-X or Mjolnir then you haven't heard what it can do at all. In that regard, it's no less a pain in the ass to get optimal results than with the HE-6.

 

Very rewarding though biggrin.gif

LCD-2 and Mad Dog sound extremely similar to one another with Mjolnir. redface.gif

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The LCD-2 is no slouch on scalability. I see far too many people buying an LCD-2, or even just getting a loaner of an LCD-2, playing it on an average to poor amp/source and then dismissing it as being nothing special. I even read one review that said it sounds like the Mad Dogs, I'm sure it does, from a source that rolls off the bass at 50hz.

 

IMHO if you haven't heard the LCD-2 from the GS-X or Mjolnir then you haven't heard what it can do at all. In that regard, it's no less a pain in the ass to get optimal results than with the HE-6.

 

Very rewarding though biggrin.gif

Have you heard the LCD 2.2 through the Soloist ?

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LCD-2 and Mad Dog sound extremely similar to one another with Mjolnir. redface.gif

 

In what way? 

 

No headphone amplifier can somehow make the Mad Dogs have Audeze "flat to 5hz" bass. The Audezes are better in everything from clarity/transparency to considerably lower harmonic distortion and vastly superior dynamics. 

 

I mean, the LCD2 sounds more similar to the Mad Dogs than to say, Stax or Grados. They both have the "planar push", but they really aren't similar or comparable at all.

 

 

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Have you heard the LCD 2.2 through the Soloist ?

 

Can't say I have, impressions here seem to indicate it's a good amp but a little soft, polite and unengaging, the polar opposite of the Mjolnir.

 

Should note there's some other good amps for the LCD2 like the Decware Taboo and Violectric V200, depending on your musical tastes. Haven't heard the Liquid Fire yet, I'd imagine it's pretty amazing too though.


Edited by Darkbeat - 4/23/13 at 10:55am
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In what way? 

 

No headphone amplifier can somehow make the Mad Dogs have Audeze "flat to 5hz" bass. The Audezes are superior in everything from clarity/transparency to a considerably lower harmonic distortion and engaging dynamics. 

 

I mean, the LCD2 sounds more similar to the Mad Dogs than to say, Stax or Grados. They both have the "planar push", but they really aren't similar or comparable at all.

 

 

 

Can't say I have, impressions here seem to indicate it's a good amp but a little soft, polite and unengaging, the polar opposite of the Mjolnir.

 

Should note there's some other good amps for the LCD2 like the Decware Taboo and Violectric V200, depending on your musical tastes. Haven't heard the Liquid Fire yet, I'd imagine it's pretty amazing too though.

In an almost across the board similar way. 

 

I never touched on specifics. the Audez'es have more refined bass, more textured, etc. But that's about it.

I find both sound natural, the mids are quite similar and both have that shelved treble.

 

And you can claim the LCD-2's are superior in everything from clarity/transparency to a considerably lower harmonic distorting and engaging dynamics,

I disagree. I much prefer the Mad Dog, which is why the LCD-2 is goners.

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In an almost across the board similar way. 

 

I never touched on specifics. the Audez'es have more refined bass, more textured, etc. But that's about it.

I find both sound natural, the mids are quite similar and both have that shelved treble.

 

And you can claim the LCD-2's are superior in everything from clarity/transparency to a considerably lower harmonic distorting and engaging dynamics,

I disagree. I much prefer the Mad Dog, which is why the LCD-2 is goners.

 

You have the LCD3, I can't imagine you would want to keep the LCD2 anyway biggrin.gif

 

More refined bass? How about just "bass" and leave it at that.

 

I can claim things like the LCD2 having better clarity and transparency, lower harmonic distortion and more engaging dynamics based on a plethora of subjective opinions and backed up by objective measurements;

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2Rev2.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersMadDogA.pdf

 

These headphones sound nothing alike, though that doesn't necessarily mean that the Mad Dogs aren't better in some ways. Being closed headphones is advantage enough IMO.

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You have the LCD3, I can't imagine you would want to keep the LCD2 anyway biggrin.gif

 

More refined bass? How about just "more bass" and leave it at that.

 

I can claim things like the LCD2 having better clarity and transparency, lower harmonic distortion and more engaging dynamics based on a plethora of subjective opinions and backed up by objective measurements;

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2Rev2.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersMadDogA.pdf

 

These headphones sound nothing alike, though that doesn't necessarily mean that the Mad Dogs aren't better in some ways. Being closed headphones is advantage enough IMO.

More bass is misleading. As quality is much more important than quantity, personally speaking.

 

Let's just leave it up to you find the Mad Dog and LCD-2 WAY different, while I find them WAY similar.

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More bass is misleading. As quality is much more important than quantity, personally speaking.

 

Let's just leave it up to you find the Mad Dog and LCD-2 WAY different, while I find them WAY similar.

It is clear from the measurements on innerfidelity, which DarkBeat gave us, that the LCD2 can go lower  and they have a better bass response (from 30 hz square wave measurements), so it's not just about quantity :), and to be clear, the LCD2 doesn't have too much bass (even the fr response shows that).

 

However I have seen a new measurement of the mad dogs(Alpha Padded Mad Dog)  here. which look very similar to LCD2:

 

MD_FR.jpg

 

 If these were the FR of the last version of mad dogs ...well I could see how they would be similar in sound signature. However I tend to trust Tylls' measurements more....but who knows! :D I would prefer it to be true...as they would be an even greater value at that price point. And Tyll did not measure the Alpha Padded Mad Dog yet from what I know.

 

I think I will buy a pair one day to have a closed planar nearby in case of emergency :))


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 4/24/13 at 10:53am
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