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Sigh, ignorance is bliss.

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If the pads could have been configured differently to yield better sound, the engineers prolly would have designed them that way.

 

On that base there would only be one revision of LCD-2. Don't forget there is also a LCD-3 which costs double and it so happens the pads are one of the things they significantly changed. :) 

 

I am not saying it's one way or the other with these pads, but I shall soon find out for myself. I will not be biased as I can and will return the pads if they are not worth it.


Edited by negura - 4/12/13 at 5:46am
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The only problem I have with this is that you haven't A/B-ed the LCD2 with stock pads and Stax pads. I truly believe in expectation bias, and unless someone has two LCD2s with the different pads, I can't fully believe in the opinions on improvements.

I myself was able to A/B two LCD2s with one vegan and one with leather. Found out that the vegan was a touch less warm, but they were both within less than say 2% difference. One that I wouldn't have been sure in if I didn't A/B them. They were that close.

Same as when I A/B-ed the Q701 vs K702 Anniversary (which uses memory foam pads). Without being able to quickly compare them, I wouldn't have been so confident in my impressions, though they were clearly different. Like by 20%.

Let me not bring up the HE-400 pad swap fiasco, where everyone was jumping from pad to pad, and each new pad swap was magically better than the last. Too much expecation bias, not enough actual evidence. Then some went back to older pads then found THOSE better. It was like...REALLY?
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/12/13 at 5:47am
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The only problem I have with this is that you haven't A/B-ed the LCD2 with stock pads and Stax pads. I truly believe in expectation bias, and unless someone has two LCD2s with the different pads, I can't fully believe in the opinions on improvements.

I myself was able to A/B two LCD2s with one vegan and one with leather. Found out that the vegan was a touch less warm, but they were both within less than say 2% difference. One that I wouldn't have been sure in if I didn't A/B them. They were that close.

Same as when I A/B-ed the Q701 vs K702 Anniversary (which uses memory foam pads). Without being able to quickly compare them, I wouldn't have been so confident in my impressions, though they were clearly different. Like by 20%.

Let me not bring up the HE-400 pad swap fiasco, where everyone was jumping from pad to pad, and each new pad swap was magically better than the last. Too much expecation bias, not enough actual evidence.

 

I am sorry but A/Bing two different LCD-2s is not always going to be as controlled as one may be hoping for as it introduces change due to driver variances, especially when you are looking at 2% as you say. Just check a few pages back where frequency response charts were posted, as there is significant sample variance between two vegans for example.

 

I do agree that vegan is a touch less warm though. 


Edited by negura - 4/12/13 at 5:52am
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Btw guys I tried fitting my HD800 pads onto my LCD2's..works a treat and I'm hearing a 5-dimensional sound I've never heard before.

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Btw guys I tried fitting my HD800 pads onto my LCD2's..works a treat and I'm hearing a 5-dimensional sound I've never heard before.

 

 

...but are you using the special silver cable is the real question!

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I am sorry but A/Bing two different LCD-2s is not always going to be as controlled as one may be hoping for as it introduces change due to driver variances, especially when you are looking at 2% as you say. Just check a few pages back where frequency response charts were posted, as there is significant sample variance between two vegans for example.

I do agree that vegan is a touch less warm though. 

If driver variation is kept to a minimum (like with the AKG K70x line, which are incredibly consistent), A/B should still be better than swapping pads off the same headphone which takes time. Enough time to let expectation bias kick in.

The brain is a b*tch.
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Btw guys I tried fitting my HD800 pads onto my LCD2's..works a treat and I'm hearing a 5-dimensional sound I've never heard before.


Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 10:39pm
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once again all hate and no substance.
All ramble no experience.
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Originally Posted by negura View Post
 

 

On that base there would only be one revision of LCD-2. Don't forget there is also a LCD-3 which costs double and it so happens the pads are one of the things they significantly changed. :) 

 

I am not saying it's one way or the other with these pads, but I shall soon find out for myself. I will not be biased as I can and will return the pads if they are not worth it.


Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 10:38pm
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All ramble no experience.

Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 10:37pm
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All ramble no experience.

Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 10:36pm
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Apparently everybody better watch what they say on this thread or defqon and the head-fi lynch mob will string u up. Got me runin like I'm harriet tubman.

I don't see you running ;)

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I wish he would run..

 

Heres an old post of mine to maybe change the mood a little... :D

 

 


The LCD2 for me is not about technicalities. Its simply not! It is about the pure and intimate enjoyment of music. Only it; delivers the music in a warm liquid like gloop, encompassing the listener in a way that renders them numb to artificiality's that wouldn't normally show up in the music. Artificiality's that can easily become distracting and focused upon more so than the more important emotional aspects.

These leather clad predators envelope the listeners ears (and most of their face) like two gorillas hands, holding the recipient helpless as it induces an allegoric fusion where component and animal almost transmogrify in an illusionary state of consciousness. You become the headphone. Or indeed, the headphone becomes you.

The Bass is what bass should be, it is deep and impactful, warm and seductive. It cups its leathery hand on your scrotum and gently squeezes when the double bass is slapped, or the cello's crunch in unison. The mids suck you into a small but perfectly assembled stage. A stage that is lined with dark red velvet on all sides and candle lit. Light shines through the dimly lit room. But not too much. Not enough to see the dirt.

A warm intimacy befriends the lonely here, a place for everyone to hold hands and hold each other naked. Not far away there is a sweet voice calling out. The treble is your best friend. It will never get angry, no matter how bad you treat it. It is there when you need it, but never more so.  But be warned my children, as given half the chance it will and without hesitation gently caress your whole body with a wet and oily tongue- leaving nothing but goosebumps in it's wake.

A whole is present here. Every 'thing' is one. There is not a 'wall of sound' but a 'whole'. A whole that carries your weary mind away at the end of long days. Held as in a mothers arms and protected. Protected from a cruel world below. A world where robots have the rule. A cold place.

 

Just saying..

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