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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

Apples and bananas comparison. The LCD2's are open orthos. The D7k are closed and this seals off any inward air into the housing chamber of the driver itself producing more deeper notes (at least in this case as Denon tuned these to have more bass). If you want a fairer comparison of what a closed ortho can do with bass quantity and quality in a closed form factor, give the Thunderpants a go. Definitely able to satisfy any basshead, able to be tuned by amount of baffle or dynamat dampening and port holes.

 

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Woah, awful lot of Denon hate going on here.  The pretentiousness of the HD800 crowd kills me sometimes.  Its a really nice headphone for sure, but geez sometimes I get the impression you all own it just to have the unassailable #1 best graph around.

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Originally Posted by barid View Post

Woah, awful lot of Denon hate going on here.  The pretentiousness of the HD800 crowd kills me sometimes.  Its a really nice headphone for sure, but geez sometimes I get the impression you all own it just to have the unassailable #1 best graph around.

Elitism, something that seems quite abundant on this thread lately, hidden behind the opinion defense. *cute smiley face*
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/9/13 at 8:21am
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Well no elitism here. I just want the "one" headphone that works the best possible for listening to all types of music that I listen to. Don't really care what name is on it long as it does what I want. The main problem is not being able to listen to everything available prior to making a purchase decision. This opens the door for those who claim "this is the best" and everything else is inferior. If there was easy affordable access to everything available, everyone would be able to just make their own decisions to start with.
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Don't get me wrong, the D7000 is a great headphone (and I still enjoy hearing them), but compared to anything more refined like an LCD 2, HD800, HE-6, or even a TH900...It sounds a mess. It's extremely fun, but so is the TH900. However, if someone doesn't want to drop 2k on a TH900, the D7000 is a wonderful alternative. Less refinement, less money.

 

It was a really solid contender in it's old price range, but the slowly rising price due to it's 'sequel' being bad is making it tough to justify.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


Elitism, something that seems quite abundant on this thread lately, hidden behind the opinion defense. *cute smiley face*

 

As for the HE-6...Sure the bass is nice, but the treble is awful D: I want to love them every time I try 'em (and I know some that really do. Alex Cavalli for instance) but they're not for me.

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Classical / Acoustic / Jazz - HD 800

Jazz / Rock / Metal / Electronic / Reggae / Hip Hop / R&B / Pop - LCD-2 & LCD-3

All rounders but don't excel at specific genres as much as the ones above do - HE-500 & HE6

 

Pick your poison. :)

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I'd say,

HD800: Classical, Electronic, Acoustic, Jazz, Rock, 

LCD2: Jazz, Electronic. 

 

LCD2's are still my fave Jazz cans, but everything else is better with the HD800. 

 

The way the LCD2's give you that warm, intimate, cosy feel to Jazz is so good. Just the right soundstage. The deep bass is wonderful with double bass and brass sounds very smooth and sweet.

 

I enjoy some electronic music with the LCD2's but as a whole the HD800's do it better, and with no less impact. Only less bass presence.

 

I'm not gonna bang on about how good the HD800 is, as this is obviously not the place. Only to say that if you have eclectic tastes and money, then its a no brainer. 

 

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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

Classical / Acoustic / Jazz - HD 800

Jazz / Rock / Metal / Electronic / Reggae / Hip Hop / R&B / Pop - LCD-2 & LCD-3

All rounders but don't excel at specific genres as much as the ones above do - HE-500 & HE6

 

Pick your poison. :)

 

Well maybe it's just me and my F1J, but the HE-6 really does excel at all genres.  Maybe not as good as the HD800 with classical or maybe not as good with some bass head music like the LCD-3.  But It's does all genres very well.  To my ears..  For people that say they can't stand the treble.  That's because the HE-6 can't stand their amps


Edited by preproman - 4/9/13 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

I'd say,

HD800: Classical, Electronic, Acoustic, Jazz, Rock, 

LCD2: Jazz, Electronic. 

 

LCD2's are still my fave Jazz cans, but everything else is better with the HD800. 

 

The way the LCD2's give you that warm, intimate, cosy feel to Jazz is so good. Just the right soundstage. The deep bass is wonderful with double bass and brass sounds very smooth and sweet.

 

I enjoy some electronic music with the LCD2's but as a whole the HD800's do it better, and with no less impact. Only less bass presence.

 

I'm not gonna bang on about how good the HD800 is, as this is obviously not the place. Only to say that if you have eclectic tastes and money, then its a no brainer. 

 

HD800 are worse for me when Electronic and Rock are considered since they are way brighter.

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

Well maybe it's just me and my F1J, but the HE-6 really does excel at all genres.  Maybe not as good as the HD800 with classical or maybe not as good with some bass head music like the LCD-3.  But It's does all genres very well.  To my ears..  For people that say they can't stand the treble.  That's because the HE-6 can't stand their amps

Yeap, that's what I was trying to say. They do all genres well but some of them not as good as HD 800 or LCD-2/LCD-3.

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I picked the HD800 over the LCD 2.2 and those 2 genres make up about 95% of my listening.

 

While I never found them bright on my LF, I certainly found them like an ice pick in the ear on the BHA-1.

 

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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

HD800 are worse for me when Electronic and Rock are considered since they are way brighter.

post #4556 of 6728

+1

 

Denon bass was great until I heard the LCD-2 R2 and found out what real bass sounds like. I'm surprised Mad Lust Envy is getting butt hurt by something so obvious. I thought you had come a long way from proclaiming the awesomeness of V-shaped curves and dismissing mids as useless. Not to mention declaring the HE-4 as the greatest can on earth. very_evil_smiley.gif I was happy to see that you were moving more toward a balanced presentation taste, but I guess not. The sub-bass rumble from the Denons are very artificial. The rumble is always present whether it's in the mix or not, kind of like how the AKG K702 soundstage is always wide, even if the recording doesn't call for it. And yes the Denon bass is muddy and slow compared to the LCD-2.

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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Don't get me wrong, the D7000 is a great headphone (and I still enjoy hearing them), but compared to anything more refined like an LCD 2, HD800, HE-6, or even a TH900...It sounds a mess. It's extremely fun, but so is the TH900

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No. It's just that they are a different kind of awesome. I like all types of sound signatures. From v-shaped, to warm+mid rich, to linear. I guess you're too cool to see anything that isn't to your preference as being good.

Unlike that elitist mentality, I can still go back to older headphones and enjoy them for what they are. Denons are tuned for more bass than linear cans. That doesn't make them inferior. That makes them DIFFERENT. It's not a 'mess'. Anymore than the HD800 would be a thin mess to anyone who likes a bass heavy, or colored can. But since people here are on a that 'linear is better' kick, everything else is labeled as inferior.

If we all thought this way, there wouldn't be any diversity.

For those who enjoy emphasized bass, I highly doubt there is much better out there that can give such bass presence without hurting the other frequencies as well as the D7000 does. You can blame yourselfves for getting the D7000 expecting something different. What's next, bitching about open headphones not sealing well?

But enough of that. This is the LCD2 thread. If you wanna bitch about how the Denons aren't to you liking, go to the D7000 thread.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/9/13 at 1:02pm
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Runs off to the D7k thread :-D
post #4559 of 6728
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

Apples and bananas comparison. The LCD2's are open orthos. The D7k are closed and this seals off any inward air into the housing chamber of the driver itself producing more deeper notes (at least in this case as Denon tuned these to have more bass). If you want a fairer comparison of what a closed ortho can do with bass quantity and quality in a closed form factor, give the Thunderpants a go. Definitely able to satisfy any basshead, able to be tuned by amount of baffle or dynamat dampening and port holes.


Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 11:20pm
post #4560 of 6728
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

No. It's just that they are a different kind of awesome. I like all types of sound signatures. From v-shaped, to warm+mid rich, to linear. I guess you're too cool to see anything that isn't to your preference as being good.

Unlike that elitist mentality, I can still go back to older headphones and enjoy them for what they are. Denons are tuned for more bass than linear cans. That doesn't make them inferior. That makes them DIFFERENT. It's not a 'mess'. Anymore than the HD800 would be a thin mess to anyone who likes a bass heavy, or colored can. But since people here are on a that 'linear is better' kick, everything else is labeled as inferior.

If we all thought this way, there wouldn't be any diversity.

For those who enjoy emphasized bass, I highly doubt there is much better out there that can give such bass presence without hurting the other frequencies as well as the D7000 does. You can blame yourselfves for getting the D7000 expecting something different. What's next, bitching about open headphones not sealing well?

But enough of that. This is the LCD2 thread. If you wanna bitch about how the Denons aren't to you liking, go to the D7000 thread.

Edited by jibzilla - 6/3/14 at 11:19pm
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