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Long answer: They're extremely different.

 

Short answer: Yes.

 

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Originally Posted by Flognuts View Post

Guys who have made the jump from HD600s/650's

 

was it worth it?

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Originally Posted by Flognuts View Post

Guys who have made the jump from HD600s/650's

 

was it worth it?

 

Yeah it's sort of an evolution from the 650 sound, midrange, polite treble, warm and fuzzy sound.

 

800's are sort of HD600's evolution. 

 

Was it worth it? I've only owned the 600's but really I enjoy the sonic comfort more than ANYTHING. Only headphone I can totally wear for 8 hours if I had that much free time in a day.

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Originally Posted by Flognuts View Post

Guys who have made the jump from HD600s/650's

 

was it worth it?

 

For myself yes. I came over from the HD650's. On my rig, I don't think I had good synergy, 
at low to moderate listing levels there was a slight veil, but crank it up and they really sounded good. 
Would like to retry them with a tube amp sometime in the future to see if that helps.
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The LCD2 is everything you could want out of the HD650's sound and then some. It is a noticeable jump in sound quality. I wanted both, but ended up returning the HD650 because there was absolutely nothing it did better than the LCD2 except comfort.

It was weird. I was A/B-ing them, and the 650 sounded flat and 2d like. Going back to the LCD2 really opened up the imaging and overall presentation was much more natural.

In short, if you love the HD650, the LCD2 will be the most logical upgrade, sound-wise.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The LCD2 is everything you could want out of the HD650's sound and then some. It is a noticeable jump in sound quality. I wanted both, but ended up returning the HD650 because there was absolutely nothing it did better than the LCD2 except comfort.

It was weird. I was A/B-ing them, and the 650 sounded flat and 2d like. Going back to the LCD2 really opened up the imaging and overall presentation was much more natural.

In short, if you love the HD650, the LCD2 will be one of the most logical upgrades, sound-wise.

Fixed. HE500 is just as much so.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The LCD2 is everything you could want out of the HD650's sound and then some. It is a noticeable jump in sound quality. I wanted both, but ended up returning the HD650 because there was absolutely nothing it did better than the LCD2 except comfort.

 

 

Well, I wouldn't underestimate comfort. Many have sold good headphones over comfort issues. Great sound, lousy comfort = Ebay.

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I agree. Comfort is. Top priority for me. The LCD2 is my one and only exception. Its okay in comfort. Better now with the foam headband.

However the massive improvement in sound is worth just a little less comfort over the HD650.

Jerg, I meant that the lcd2 was the most logical upgrade because the HD650 and LCD2 have a very, very similar voicing. Pretty sure the HE500 is a bit different in the upper range than those two.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I agree. Comfort is. Top priority for me. The LCD2 is my one and only exception. Its okay in comfort. Better now with the foam headband.

However the massive improvement in sound is worth just a little less comfort over the HD650.

Jerg, I meant that the lcd2 was the most logical upgrade because the HD650 and LCD2 have a very, very similar voicing. Pretty sure the HE500 is a bit different in the upper range than those two.

 

Maybe different on some micro scales, but very similar on a macro level. Warm, dark, slight mid-bass belly (this actually LCD2 does not share), and the upper end did not sound all that different when I auditioned HD650 side-by-side with my HE500 recently, maybe HE500 sounded a bit more clear and upfront, but that was offset by the HD650 sounding a bit less thick in the lower end.

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Originally Posted by Flognuts View Post

Guys who have made the jump from HD600s/650's

 

was it worth it?

 

I'm gonna pop balloons here and say no.

 

I had an early rev.2 alongside my first HD650 (silver screen) and preferred the Senn. Those are long gone but I bought another HD650 and the latest rev.2 after a sojourn with the HD800. The 800 ruled that roost, but regretfully it's no longer in the stable.

 

Currently slumming it with the HD650 and the LCD-2. The Senn is my main headphone. The Westone 4R is next in line. My Audez'e is confined in its coffin, though this LCD-2 does sound better than my older rev.2.

 

I enjoy the LCD-2 on occasion but I find I need to listen at higher volumes to be moved by it. Not good for extended sessions, and makes me question the hearing (in terms of safe spl) of those who sing its praises.


Edited by olor1n - 4/3/13 at 3:42am
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An 650 (and I'd imagine the same for the 600 and 580) on one of SP's sds xlr amp's running balanced sounds better than any of the high end combinations I've heard with the LCD2's.

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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

 

I'm gonna pop balloons here and say no.

 

I had an early rev.2 alongside my first HD650 (silver screen) and preferred the Senn. Those are long gone but I bought another HD650 and the latest rev.2 after a sojourn with the HD800. The 800 ruled that roost, but regretfully it's no longer in the stable.

 

Currently slumming it with the HD650 and the LCD-2. The Senn is my main headphone. The Westone 4R is next in line. My Audez'e is confined in its coffin, though this LCD-2 does sound better than my older rev.2.

 

I enjoy the LCD-2 on occasion but I find I need to listen at higher volumes to be moved by it. Not good for extended sessions, and makes me question the hearing (in terms of safe spl) of those who sing its praises.

You mean sir that the LCD2 is no good in any level against your senn650. How bad is it? Are they not in anyway much superior according to many reviews and rank by many as likable headphone because of the sound quality that they produce. What is that made you despise your rev2.?

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The LCD2 is everything you could want out of the HD650's sound and then some. It is a noticeable jump in sound quality. I wanted both, but ended up returning the HD650 because there was absolutely nothing it did better than the LCD2 except comfort.

It was weird. I was A/B-ing them, and the 650 sounded flat and 2d like. Going back to the LCD2 really opened up the imaging and overall presentation was much more natural.

In short, if you love the HD650, the LCD2 will be the most logical upgrade, sound-wise.

 

^ This.

 

I owned the HD650 twice (both of them the new drivers version), and as much as I loved them, they had to go as they weren't getting any head time once I got the LCD-2s. The only thing the HD650s are better for is they are even more relaxing sound wise. Say you are really smashed tired and want some extra syrup in your sound. But for me the LCD-2s have plenty all the time. Or if you have some really ridiculously bright recordings, even for the LCD-2s.

 

Furthermore, I have both leather and vegan pads, and if anyone is concerned by comfort at all should really go for the latter. My personal feeling after owning the HD650s, Beyer T1 (some of the most comfortable headphones around) and LCD-2 is that the vegan version comfort is on par with the former two. And I listen to my LCD-2s for hours on end. I actually also prefer the vegan sound, as written some pages back in this thread.


Edited by negura - 4/3/13 at 9:19am
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How can I tell which version is a LCD2? By the serial???
 

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Forget it, now I know.
 

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How can I tell which version is a LCD2? By the serial???
 

The serial's are generated at random but all starting from 5*****. LCD2 rev.2's have leather headbands. The newest line of rev.2's also come in Bamboo from the standard rosewood, they also have leather headbands and have angled black plastic connectors. The older line connectors are extruded from the wooden housing also angled. rev.1's have foam headbands.

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