The Audeze LCD-2 Ortho thread (New) - Page 198

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee 

Does anyone have the LCD2 and the HE400? I'm losing my love for the HE400 after running them side by side with the HD700.  Loving the HD700 mids, nice tight, solid and fast bass (though the HE400 do hit harder). Any comparisons?

 

Moving up the chain, I'm having a hard time choosing between the LCD2 and HE500.. definitely want the great bass for electronic music and Enigma, with great mids for vocals. I know that I'll get the bass I want form the LCD2 but am a little concerned with reading that vocals are a little distant (from what I recall reading, its like sitting in the 10th row versus the first). Plus I've read that the HE500 have world class, luscious mids. I auditioned the LCD2 rev 1's a few times at the Toronto Head-Fi meet and was pretty impressed and it seems like the Bifrost/Lyr combo was made for them. Haven't heard the rev 2's.

 

I listen to everything from Eagles, Supertramp, Enigma, newer  Madonna, Dead Can Dance, Dire Straits to Patricia Barber, Diana Krall, Adele, plus a lot of retro 80's and 90's retro dance and new wave music.

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!

I really like both the LCD2 and HE500, its a tough call. The 500's have better top end, it reaches higher and has more detail and is very smooth. The mids are very sweet and velvety, only there is a slight mid bass hump there that can make very complex music a tad muddy. The Bass is deep, balanced and warm but can sometimes feel a little seperated from the whole. Also the imaging can be very stereo, i.e left and right. Details are more present because of the extra treble.

The LCD2' s in comparision have a much more whole sound, very natural. The treble is presented without any extra sugar. The mids are more defined and imaging is more 3d rather than stereo, more around your head. The bass is also more natural and although it is more powerful, doesn't actually sound coloured like Denon's for e.g do.

The soundstage on the HE500's is a little wider, but the soundstage on the LCD's is bigger as a whole.

Although technically they are as good as each other in their respected areas, I'd have to go with the LCD2's because they present the music, more musically! and thats what its about at the end of the day (literally at the end of the day, coz thats when I listen to them )   

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Originally Posted by MEDO 

they're more comfortable than my Denon D5k

As a long time user of both the D7000s (which were the comfortable headphones I've ever worn) and the LCD-2s, I never thought I would ever hear someone say this.  Are you a fellow possessor of an enormous cranium, or have you just been blessed with the first (exceptionally) comfortable pair of LCD-2s?

Thanks LugBug.. I think I've pretty much decided on the LCD2.  It will be my Christmas present to myself.  I already have the Q cable for my HE400 and when I do eventually sell them, I'll as Steve really nicely to re-terminate for the LCD2.

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 

 

Although technically they are as good as each other in their respected areas, I'd have to go with the LCD2's because they present the music, more musically! and thats what its about at the end of the day (literally at the end of the day, coz thats when I listen to them )   

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee 

Thanks LugBug.. I think I've pretty much decided on the LCD2.  It will be my Christmas present to myself.  I already have the Q cable for my HE400 and when I do eventually sell them, I'll as Steve really nicely to re-terminate for the LCD2.

I'll buy them.  

Remember that to make the LCD-2 really sing it must have a powerful amp.  I have tried my LCD-2 with a couple of amps and the best I have heard is the new Schiit Mjolnir.  Others seem veiled and underpowered for such phone.  From my experience orthos need power to shine.

Just some clarification: the LCD2 are not intended to be neutral across the frequency board or "flat" in other words. The LCD2 are more bass emphasised, bass heavy in other words.

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Originally Posted by DefQon 

Just some clarification: the LCD2 are not intended to be neutral across the frequency board or "flat" in other words. The LCD2 are more bass emphasised, bass heavy in other words.

When you say "intended", are you quoting Audeze on that or just surmising? My impression from reading Audeze literature is that they were intended to sound neutral or flat (which of course is not the same as having a ruler flat FR).

I collect custom knives for their fit and finish, and honestly the craftsmanship alone is the reason I own LCD-2's and not HE-500's anymore despite me liking how the HE-500's look better. The sound isn't a world apart either. I like both almost on the same level.

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Originally Posted by beaver316 

Congrats dude, please do post pics!

X2 we want pics!!

I dun no but there os a Dubstep producer working for Audeze. :D

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Originally Posted by pp312 

 

When you say "intended", are you quoting Audeze on that or just surmising? My impression from reading Audeze literature is that they were intended to sound neutral or flat (which of course is not the same as having a ruler flat FR).

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Originally Posted by DefQon 

Just some clarification: the LCD2 are not intended to be neutral across the frequency board or "flat" in other words. The LCD2 are more bass emphasised, bass heavy in other words.

Just some clarification, the LCD-2s are indeed neutral across the board. Ruler flat actually with a shelved down treble to account for the close proximity of the driver's to one's ears. IMO they are very neutral. 

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Originally Posted by DefQon 

Just some clarification: the LCD2 are not intended to be neutral across the frequency board or "flat" in other words. The LCD2 are more bass emphasised, bass heavy in other words.

Bass heavy?

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

Just some clarification, the LCD-2s are indeed neutral across the board. Ruler flat actually with a shelved down treble to account for the close proximity of the driver's to one's ears. IMO they are very neutral. 

+1. Couldnt agree more.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

Just some clarification, the LCD-2s are indeed neutral across the board. Ruler flat actually with a shelved down treble to account for the close proximity of the driver's to one's ears. IMO they are very neutral. 

This is of course what I was hinting at. But I should have just said it straight out.

I find my Rev1 very neutral. True, I use an amp on the brighter side of neutral and silver aftermarket cable, but in that form I find nothing lacking up top in comparison to live music. In comparison to most other phones, however, I'm sure mine sound positively muffled, but fortunately that isn't my criteria.

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero 

Just some clarification, the LCD-2s are indeed neutral across the board. Ruler flat actually with a shelved down treble to account for the close proximity of the driver's to one's ears. IMO they are very neutral. 

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Originally Posted by pp312 

 

This is of course what I was hinting at. But I should have just said it straight out.

 

I find my Rev1 very neutral. True, I use an amp on the brighter side of neutral and silver aftermarket cable, but in that form I find nothing lacking up top in comparison to live music. In comparison to most other phones, however, I'm sure mine sound positively muffled, but fortunately that isn't my criteria.

Two excellent and very correct posts.  I couldn't agree more.  Somehow on Head-Fi, for a phone to be considered "technically accurate" it has to have a pronounced treble and lightweight bass, while a phone with real life treble and bass is considered a "fun" headphone.

Can anyone measure the diameter of the earcups? They look huge. Would they fit well on my smaller than average Asian head?