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post #496 of 688
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Originally Posted by recca_cool View Post

Speaking of USB inputs..I'm getting V800 soon :) and will use USB input.

 

Did anyone try any of tinygreen PC solutions, like FitPC2?

 

I have a PC but it is very noisy. A fanlsess/silent setup is the best; something that runs windows > Foobar2000 kernel > usb > v800 > v200 > headphones > happy!

Can be easily controlled with android remotely :)

 

I researched on SB which is discontinued, C.A.P.S which is costly and way more than needed.

Building custom-built is too much hassle, and buyign pre-built silent PCs are expensive. (~1000$+).

 

FitPC2 seems like a good match given price, can stream music via LAN/WiFi, it is silent and not bad looking.


Why don't you use a laptop instead? Or any netbook, ultrabook whichever one has a usb port.

post #497 of 688
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Originally Posted by zhunter View Post


Why don't you use a laptop instead? Or any netbook, ultrabook whichever one has a usb port.

 

Because they are noisy (the quietest are ~20ish db), and the 'bad noise' because laptop fans are small and high-rpm type, which makes the noise on higher frequency.

 

I tried few notebooks and netbooks and the fan noise is easily detectable especially when I'm listening to classical music with lots of quiet passages.

 

This is the reason behind looking for a silent setup, rather than quiet.

At work IT support knows me well because I am the reason behind cleaning up fans of PCs around even 5 meters away from me dt880smile.png I also suffer a lot sleeping in hotels; unless the room is completely soundproof, my ears catches any noise (which my wife loves making fun of me about).


Edited by recca_cool - 7/2/13 at 3:52pm
post #498 of 688

I have no idea how loud you usually listen to music. But to me, I'm now sitting right beside the custom built PC by me, which is a gaming PC, full water cooled with 12-14 fans, all are controlled via a Fan Controller at 1.2k - 1.7k rpm. And they are quite noisy, but I never notice some 'bad noise' when listening to music, perhaps I always listen so loud and this kind of factor doesn't bother me much.

post #499 of 688

Loud enough not to damage my ears :)

I listen a lot to relatively quiet music such as classical and acoustic pieces (e.g. guitar), so I can hear any noise in the room easily.

 

PC setup and netbook are completely different:

To clarify fans for a PC are the bigger type (120-140MM), so their sound frequency are lower than those of smaller fans which may run on the same rpm but produce higher frequency sound that is 'more annoying'.

 

Also PC cases have many noise absorption options such as noise-reduction pads/foam or fan filters.

For netbooks, fan is directly producing sound to the air without any filters.

 

I'm guessing you have a really nice PC setup and you listen to loud music which prevents you hearing the fan noise.

However, I garantee you if you try listening to same music in a room without PC fans, you'll enjoy the music more as there will be less pressure on your ears (even if you don't hear the noise, the air pressure is still there).

 

Anyway, we are trailing on another subject, sorry about that :P

 

P.S. I have cheap speakers, but plan to buy Studio monitors, and if I will listen to speakers... any noise in the room no matter what small will be clearly audible, so that is the real reason why I'm really fussy about picking the right media server that is silent.


Edited by recca_cool - 7/2/13 at 4:05pm
post #500 of 688
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I too am extremely sensitive to certain noises. Like you, my wife makes fun of me for it (and rightly so...) and I have to take steps to work around it. 

 

I've considered the Fit-PC products. They look nice. Came close to buying their "Intense" model for an HTPC setup, but decided I didn't have time for that project.

 

The Auraliti PK90 is more expensive but it also a lot more audio specific. Straight from the box, you get Voyage MPD Linux optimized for audio playback, and a high-end SOtM USB card.... you could do the same thing yourself with the Fit-PC models, and save some money that way, but you'd still be missing the SOtM USB output. Still, I'd give the Fit stuff a try if I had the need. 

post #501 of 688

Glad I'm not the only one atsmile.giffrown.gif

 

What is the advantage of using SOtM USB output if I'm going to use a standard USB output to a USB DAC of V800 anyway? It is all digital.

 

I think Intense model is too expensive for the job; FitPC2 looks powerful enough for me to do the job.

For an over-all HTPC, you could easily build/acquire HTPCs that are better and less the price.

post #502 of 688
Thread Starter 

The SOtM USB card has a lot of inline filtering, well done power supply regulation, etc. It's basically ensuring you get the cleanest signal possible. That may not matter to you, depending on your DAC, and especially if you are of the mind that "digital is digital".

 

The Intense is admittedly expensive but the enclosure surely makes up a decent chunk of that. And the biggest issue for me is time - I just don't have a lot. Sourcing, assembling, and testing a PC is rather low on my list. There was a time where I'd do that on a regular basis, but 3 kids later.... not so much. If Fit does the build for me, installs and configures all the software, and makes sure everything works properly, that's worth some extra money for someone like me. It may not be for you though, and I understand that completely. 

post #503 of 688
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

The SOtM USB card has a lot of inline filtering, well done power supply regulation, etc. It's basically ensuring you get the cleanest signal possible. That may not matter to you, depending on your DAC, and especially if you are of the mind that "digital is digital".

The Intense is admittedly expensive but the enclosure surely makes up a decent chunk of that. And the biggest issue for me is time - I just don't have a lot. Sourcing, assembling, and testing a PC is rather low on my list. There was a time where I'd do that on a regular basis, but 3 kids later.... not so much. If Fit does the build for me, installs and configures all the software, and makes sure everything works properly, that's worth some extra money for someone like me. It may not be for you though, and I understand that completely. 

Please do not put all this stuff into my obsessive compulsive mind. I've just spent a fortune on new equipment redface.gif
post #504 of 688
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

ROTFL guys, very witty biggrin.gif

Having joined head-fi and learned about expectation bias and placebo, I had high hopes it could make my partner look and behave like (insert name of your favorite celebrity/movie/tv actor/actress here ->) ________________.

Sadly, it has not worked out frown.gif

(I joke of course. My wife is beautiful).

 

Mush as I'd really like to post a semi-witty reply to this, I think I will restrain myself!
post #505 of 688

I opened both V800/V200 today to set the lift ground jumpers to "Lift" as intended but both jumpers were on "Lift" positions on default, and they are both mirrored the jumper positions on the manuals. So I just left them as 'untouched' because I trusted the printed board description.

 

I also set the jumpers of the V200 from AC to DC and noticed an improvement in sound quality, it's not minor tbh, and would require good recorded tracks to spot on. Especially the low frequency, which is more impactful, deeper and controlled, it does make sense since the under 15hz freq will not be by passed when you set to DC. Mid range is pretty much the same, treble is like more smoothed, and well extended. Some 'bad' record which I heard some harshs in treble before the changes were completely gone.

 

post #506 of 688
Does the V800 have an asynchronous USB input?
post #507 of 688
...as opposed to an adaptive USB input. Only my instructions are in German.
post #508 of 688
Thread Starter 

It's adaptive, based on the Tenor TE7022L (which was very popular for a while there, before Async became common). The USB input, like all the other inputs, gets reclocked through the ASRC circuit, so it still ends up lower in jitter than it otherwise would be. 

post #509 of 688

@John: Could I get benefit from using a spdif transporter like M2tech hiface or Audiophilleo 1/2 since the jitter is already eliminated by the ASRC chip to 25ps as you said on the review? 
 

post #510 of 688
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Originally Posted by zhunter View Post

@John: Could I get benefit from using a spdif transporter like M2tech hiface or Audiophilleo 1/2 since the jitter is already eliminated by the ASRC chip to 25ps as you said on the review? 
 

 

Tough question. I do think I hear a small improvement when using an external converter. But it's gotta be a nice one. The Izmo M1 ($499) makes a small but worthwhile improvement, and the full Audiophilleo AP1 + PurePower ($1500) is better still. But again, these are not "must have" add ons. More like bonuses if you want to further the already excellent sound of the V800. A basic $200 DDC may not do much at all, other than improve functionality by letting you play all the sample rates you might want. 

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