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post #226 of 748

I finally got my HD-558 in the mail. I think they still need to be broken in because they don't sound as good as everyone is claiming. Don't get me wrong, they sound good and they have an enclosed design which is comfortable and filters ambient noise out. But music doesn't sound as real as it does on my Grado GS-1000. 

I realize now that you really get what you pay for with audio equipment. I spent 1/5th the money on these as my Grados, so of course they don't sound as good. However, they definitely sound much better than 1/5th as good. I would even say they sound better than half as good. The value for money is amazing, I do believe that these are the best headphones in this price range. 


I will take a few months to break them in, my Grados didn't start sounding good till about a year after I bought them. Listening to these headphones makes me realize how spoiled I was with the Grado headphones. 

 

However, I can tell the build quality and durability is far superior to my Grados. I only bought theses because my Grado headphones kept falling apart and I can't listen to music on the go, and with convenience. 

 

post #227 of 748
More than likely you are simply accustomed to the Grado sound. Put your Grado's in the closet and listen to the Sennheisers exclusively for a few days and you'll be a happy camper. I can almost guarantee if you do this, then listen to your Grados again you'll wonder how you ever even tolerated them biggrin.gif
Edited by palmfish - 5/20/13 at 7:42am
post #228 of 748
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More than likely you are simply accustomed to the Grado sound. Put your Grado's in the closet and listen to the Sennheisers exclusively for a few days and you'll be a happy camper. I can almost guarantee if you do this, then listen to your Grados again you'll wonder how you ever even tolerated them biggrin.gif

 

Or vice versa.  very_evil_smiley.gif

post #229 of 748
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

More than likely you are simply accustomed to the Grado sound. Put your Grado's in the closet and listen to the Sennheisers exclusively for a few days and you'll be a happy camper. I can almost guarantee if you do this, then listen to your Grados again you'll wonder how you ever even tolerated them biggrin.gif

I have been listening to them for the past few days. I brought them with me on a vacation and they are the only headphones I have right now. 

I still think my Grados are better, but I'm returning Wednesday and will listen to them again for comparison. 

post #230 of 748
The top-of-the-line Grados vs The entry-level audiophile HD 558, which is not even the top of its own line? Doesn't seem like a fair fight to me. I would just enjoy both
post #231 of 748
The Grado is obviously a higher quality "upper tier" headphone. But that doesnt mean one cannot like the HD558 more.

A headphones frequency response is the first impression of whether you like it or not. Only after you accept the frequency response do you move to the more subtle technical qualities of a headphone (dry, lush, articulate, grainy, fast, air, depth of stage, imaging, etc.).

Headphones like the GS-1000, LCD-2, HE-500, etc. may be technically superior to the HD558 in all of these areas, but if you dont like the basic frequency response, it doesnt matter.

The GS-1000 is a bright headphone. It sounds exciting, dynamic, articulate and fun. If one is used to and enjoys these qualities, the HD558 will sound dull and lifeless in comparison. However, over time, the neutrality and honesty of the HD558 may win out with some listeners once the brain gets "reset" to neutral.
Edited by palmfish - 5/21/13 at 12:00pm
post #232 of 748

I thought they sounded mediocre too before i did the foam mod. I also like what palmfish is saying about the frequency response, i never thought about it like that before.. maybe that's why some people don't like the sound of top tier headphones. I've heard that the Grado's have a bright sound? The 558's are considered dark... correct? You're comparing a bright to a dark.. maybe you just like bright headphones? I don't know i'm just speculating lol

post #233 of 748

Love: The comfort, clarity and frequency response.

Hate: How much of whatever I'm listening to is audible to those around me.

Aware: That's part of the price I pay for my ears not sweating.  It's a price I'll pay. dt880smile.png

post #234 of 748

Okay guys, I'm back from vacation and I got to compare them directly after listening to the HD558 exclusively for a few days.

I realize how great the GS-1000s are and I didn't realize how much I missed them. It is just no comparison. smily_headphones1.gif=HD558 o2smile.gif=GS-1000. 

But it is also correct that it is an unfair comparison. The Sennheisers I feel do render bass better, by a little. The GS-1000 outperforms in every other category however. I love the warm Grado acoustic wood sound and I think bright is a good way to describe it too. The clarity is also amazing, I can hear musicians turning pages, counting off on drum tracks, and even tape hiss on albums which I never heard with the HD558, amazing in every way. 

Of course the price difference alone makes the comparison pointless. 


Verdict: I like both, the HD-558 will be ideally my travelling and commuting headphones, since these things are solidly built. And, my Grados will remain for home listening. 


Edited by dk2852 - 5/23/13 at 11:20pm
post #235 of 748
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Okay guys, I'm back from vacation and I got to compare them directly after listening to the HD558 exclusively for a few days.
I realize how great the GS-1000s are and I didn't realize how much I missed them. It is just no comparison. smily_headphones1.gif
=HD558 o2smile.gif
=GS-1000. 


But it is also correct that it is unfair comparison. The Sennheisers I feel do render bass better, by a little. The GS-1000 outperforms in every other category however. I love the warm Grado acoustic wood sound and I think bright is a good way to describe it too. The clarity is also amazing, I can hear musicians turning pages, counting off on drum tracks, and even tape hiss on albums which I never heard with the HD558, amazing in every way. 


Of course the price difference alone makes the comparison pointless. 



Verdict: I like both, the HD-558 will be ideally my travelling and commuting headphones, since these things are solidly built. And, my Grados will remain for home listening. 

Nice write up dk2852.

Thats exactly how I use my 558s - as an on the go substitute for my more fragile home listening headphones. Enjoy!
post #236 of 748
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Nice write up dk2852.

Thats exactly how I use my 558s - as an on the go substitute for my more fragile home listening headphones. Enjoy!
Quite the opposite for me however as i use my hd558 at home with its bigass plug while i take my ms1i for outdoor use since it's smaller and isolates less.
post #237 of 748
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Quite the opposite for me however as i use my hd558 at home with its bigass plug while i take my ms1i for outdoor use since it's smaller and isolates less.

Yes, the 1/4" plug isnt ideal for an on the go headphone. My solution is the Grado 1/8" adapter and an elastic hair tie. I dont wear them out and about, just in my hotel room when Im on the road.
post #238 of 748

Yeah I totally agree with the 1/4" plug issue since they are so comfortable I find myself using them in place of my Klipsch Image ONEs or s4's on the subway or lounging around plugged into my phone or computer.  Also since I live in a cheap apartment (well, not cheap since it's DC but you know what I mean) and both my floor speakers (Klipsch RE 51 Reference) and multimedia (Logictech z-2300 THX 2.1) are way way way too powerful to use at many times of the day if I want to maintain a non-hostile relationship with my neighbors I really wish it had the 3.55mm as the main and a 1/4" adapter :(


Edited by sixly - 5/23/13 at 9:40am
post #239 of 748

Which would you guys go for: HD558 + low range desktop DAC vs HD598 by itself? Obviously my first DAC. I'm trying to decide between the two as they are about the same cost.


Edited by xkgamez - 6/2/13 at 3:17am
post #240 of 748
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Which would you guys go for: HD558 + low range desktop DAC vs HD598 by itself? Obviously my first DAC. I'm trying to decide between the two as they are about the same cost.

Well, at the difference between the HD558 and a HD598 of just a few dozen dollars i'd say... choose if you like a thicker punchier sound or a wider airier sound. (which is just the characteristics of the 2 headphones themselves.) Overall the HD598 sounds more refined and has wider soundstage,(best for instrumental and acoustical genres that don't rely much on subbass) but the HD558 has more bass (better for more modern bass heavier genres). That's what you should decide between.

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