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Poll Results: Best Neutral IEM and Headphone 2011 (Pick 1 IEM and 1 Headphone only)

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 13% (17)
    Etymotic ER-4S
  • 4% (5)
    Hifiman RE-272
  • 4% (5)
    Shure SE425
  • 0% (0)
    Sony EX510
  • 4% (6)
    Vsonic GR07
  • 3% (4)
    Westone UM3X
  • 8% (10)
    Audeze LCD-2
  • 12% (16)
    Sennheiser HD600
  • 7% (9)
    Sennheiser HD800
  • 5% (7)
    Beyerdynamic DT880
  • 3% (4)
    Shure SRH 840
  • 8% (10)
    AKG 702
  • 8% (10)
    Stax SR-009
  • 0% (0)
    Denon DN-HP1000
  • 0% (0)
    ESP950
  • 11% (14)
    Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor Custom
  • 3% (4)
    Unique Melody Miracle
  • 0% (0)
    KRK-KNS8400
  • 2% (3)
    Koss ESP950
124 Total Votes  
post #31 of 337
10/2/11 at 1:59am

 

ER-4S = fantastic, yet overrated

 

CK10 = fantastic, yet expensive

 

UE700 = fantastic, ...

 

 

 

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post #32 of 337
10/2/11 at 2:21am
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Originally Posted by Head Injury View Post

My understanding is the exact opposite. Almost all headphones are too bright, to improve perceived detail. Headphones are supposed to have shelved treble and upper mid-range, in order to mimic the damping effect air has in a room. A perfectly flat headphone isn't what audio is supposed to sound like.


 

Everybody can have their interpretations of what “analytical” is. To me analytical is accurate, neutral and of course detail oriented too…

I find the Etymotics/UERM neutral because they produce the closest sound to what I hear in live classical/orchestra or any acoustics… but many people found them bright.

Not disagreeing with anyone.. just staing my thoughts.

 

 

 

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post #33 of 337
10/2/11 at 2:26am

 

When I only use my Beyer's, I think they're perfectly fine.

 

When I use my speakers, and then go back to my Beyer's... they're a little bright.

 

 

It's a matter of acclimatisation, I prefer acclimatising to an IEM/HP with more treble and less bass, that is my taste.

 

As long as the bass if fully intact down to 1 Hz, as long as it exists in it's entireity, then that is fine, I don't need bass all over my face...

 

 

Edit: However I do want the XB1000's anyway, just for the sonic eXBerience.

 

 


Edited by kiteki - 10/2/11 at 2:29am
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post #34 of 337
10/2/11 at 2:41am
Thread Starter 

Added a tiny list of analytical IEMs. Keep it coming!

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post #35 of 337
10/2/11 at 3:11am
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Originally Posted by nikp View Post

Added a tiny list of analytical IEMs. Keep it coming!



Good to see a list. Be ready to get a few hundred PMs beerchug.gif

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post #36 of 337
10/2/11 at 3:12am
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post

Good to see a list. Be ready to get a few hundred PMs beerchug.gif


I'm ready. cool.gif

 

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post #37 of 337
10/2/11 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by whitefang View Post




 

Everybody can have their interpretations of what “analytical” is. To me analytical is accurate, neutral and of course detail oriented too…

 



 

That's a good baseline definition, and theoretically an *orientation* might be seen as a step away from accuracy and neutrality. 

 

Just ordered a UE700.

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post #38 of 337
10/2/11 at 9:24pm

 

nikp,

 

Vsonic GR07 and Hifiman RE252 should most likely be on the list.

 

 

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post #39 of 337
10/2/11 at 11:56pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

nikp,

 

Vsonic GR07 and Hifiman RE252 should most likely be on the list.

 

 

Added.
 

 

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post #40 of 337
10/2/11 at 11:59pm

Hey nikp, I'd recommend you to use the spoiler thing to hide the the list since it will eventually get really long and make it difficult for some one to scroll down. 

 

 

Something like this (Click to show)

Hello

 

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post #41 of 337
10/3/11 at 12:06am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post

Hey nikp, I'd recommend you to use the spoiler thing to hide the the list since it will eventually get really long and make it difficult for some one to scroll down. 

 

 

Something like this (Click to show)

Hello

 


Sweet! Made the "hidden" list. beerchug.gif

 

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post #42 of 337
10/4/11 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by Head Injury View Post

My understanding is the exact opposite. Almost all headphones are too bright, to improve perceived detail. Headphones are supposed to have shelved treble and upper mid-range, in order to mimic the damping effect air has in a room. A perfectly flat headphone isn't what audio is supposed to sound like.



Yeah I agree.  Analytical means bright and basslight IME.  Basically any time you have an objective or strong priority like detail, analytical, clarity, you're going to have a colored headphone to emphasize these qualities with uneven FR.  Neutral is right down the middle in every way and most people would find it boring.  Unless the drivers were really fast and accurate, in which case I think it would be fairly universally praised.  The HD850 is going to be hugely popular, if they can get that sound out of those drivers.

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post #43 of 337
10/4/11 at 8:41pm

It is what it is...

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post #44 of 337
10/5/11 at 3:50am

The thread title is a bit :/

How about "List of analytical IEM's"... :p

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post #45 of 337
10/5/11 at 3:52am
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

The thread title is a bit :/How about "List of analytical IEM's"... :p


Yea I know. Wouldn't "List of analytical IEMs" be too specific?

 

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