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Wow. Those denon ah d600's look really nice!... Plus they aren't THAT big. Although they are a lot bigger than most are accustomed to. I mean, a lot of people think that my 55's are gigantic. I guess they kinda are.

It is not really an issue for me, but some people dislike how bulky they look when worn. 

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BASS REPORT PT2

 

PREFACE: I must say first that I really enjoy the bass on all three of these and could recommend them easily. Just because I say that one is better than the other doesn't mean that I disqualify it. I have maybe had a wrong idea of what is basshead certified before and probably still do. Since the M-Audio Q40 comes highly recommended on this thread (for a number of agreeable reasons) I used it as a standard to make what would be my subjective conclusion. If I should do further testing and didn't give something adequate time then I am sorry. This is not a REVIEW but rather a report on my impressions with these three cans.

 

Apart from a lot of different tracks here I used this from @Hawaiibadboy's jvc review

here (Click to show)

 thread to just test for impact and quantity. All three have the quality necessary to be very enjoyable.

 

PURPOSE:

This is twofold as I have been so confused on wether or not the yamaha hph mt220, pandora and others were basshead or not.

- to determine what is basshead levels and to alleviate my confusion

- to see if what the yamaha and pandora are worth mentioning here

 

RESULTS:

you can skip reading and look at the picture to see which one is on top but the impressions are as follows:

 

BASS

ALPHA PADS ON BOTH Q40 AND MT220:

ALMOST EQUAL the yamaha has more impact but is more boomy with these pads. The q40 with the alpha pads is a worthy upgrade and does transform it into a whole new headphone but still not as impactful as the yamaha. The Q40 may sound a bit cleaner overall down there and is not even a db below in volume. I would still choose the yamaha in this scenario with the alpha pads because the overall sq is still better than the Q40. 

 

ALPHA PADS ON MT220 AND BEYERS ON Q40:

Not even worth mentioning here. To the point; I don't recommend the after market Beyer pleather pads for the q40 and @RPGWiZaRD was right.

 

YAMAHA STOCK VS M-AUDIO STOCK:

Yamaha still has more impact and quantity. The vibrations are more easily felt. The stronghold of the yamaha is that it is engaging in the way of it being a headphone that is felt and heard. The attack on it is more than most its competition even beyond the bass. This makes it visceral when needed. If the mix is not bass heavy it will keep its place. The q40 stock isn't bad at all and has a tight controlled sound to it. I also feel that because it isnt bright and the lower mids dont seem really forward either it will better receive the BASSHEAD title. This may be because when listening with it the bass is what will stand out more than the rest and it is very well behaved. I like it a whole lot especially since I payed 100 for it. I will say that if money was the determining factor and I had alpha pads and had to choose between the two after losing them I would prob buy the q40 over the yamaha because it doesn't sound so far behind. Its not like the yamaha destroys it by 150 dollars. 

 

My personal dilemma is that I need funds and put the Yamaha up for sale instead of the q40 and I am pissed to actually find that its bass impact is better.

 

I still dont call the yamaha bass head cans. The balance of it when looking at the whole picture of the FR doesn't make it sound emphasized but when put under a test on bass heavy songs it can thump right with them.

 

FINAL AUDIO PANDORA HOPE VI STOCK:

Simply put it is tighter, louder, and more impactful than both by itself but its price says it should. This however is the same case as the yamaha. The people on the pandora thread insist that these are not bass head cans. Also the mids and highs(not bright though) are stronger by far than both y220 and Mq40 so overall I am still confused about calling them bass head cans because of their balance. I would say the mids are its emphasis if anything with warmth down low to hang with the best in bass. In addition to the balance aspect, it also does not make non bass heavy music sound really bassy. It has to be one of the best headphones I have heard to date in the mids and sounds really forward there with highs that have FULL weight without offending you.

 

CONCLUSION

If going off of balance would I recommend the yamaha and pandora to a bass head. Most likely not because the rest of the FR would distract them from the bass and they dont enhance non bass heavy songs. Ie there are a lot of hip hop songs I play where the bass is there but you want to feel it more. The yamaha and pandora wont help you out there but will reveal the mix to you. The balance of the q40 might offer a hand.

 

This is just what I am feeling right now. I could be wayyyy off and am welcome to any rebukes, -1's, and all the above. I dont mind being wrong just dont be harsh about it.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/8/14 at 1:36pm
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I put my Alpha Pads on my 2012 Astro A40s. They fit perfect! They're a little more boomy and isolate much better now. I'm not using them on any headphones at the moment, so I think I'll leave them on the Astros for a bit. It's weird because the shape of the Astros cups are the same shape as the Alpha Pads, so it looks like they may have come that way.

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And my Gunnar Optiks Marley gaming glasses. Yeah, I'm a try-hard.

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post #9784 of 11259
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And my Gunnar Optiks Marley gaming glasses. Yeah, I'm a try-hard.

I have blue-tinted lenses because I use the computer so much. :D

post #9785 of 11259
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I have blue-tinted lenses because I use the computer so much. :D

The blue helps? These glasses are made to make looking at screens less fatiguing. They reduce the amount of blue light that you see, so it's weird that your blue lenses would help with that as well. That's Gunnar's selling point anyway. 

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The blue helps? These glasses are made to make looking at screens less fatiguing. They reduce the amount of blue light that you see, so it's weird that your blue lenses would help with that as well. That's Gunnar's selling point anyway. 
Oops I phrased my point wrong. They have a coating that partially reflects blue light. Makes them look blue from certain angles smily_headphones1.gif
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*snip*


It's nice that you got BOTH the Yamaha and Final Audio VI, both of which are under my radar. Wonder if it's worth checking out the Yamahas or go straight to Pandora. I prefer "^--" response that I think Q40 does very well. The Yamaha costs like $200 new in europe and that's with even ~20% VAT included so it seems to be a little cheaper over here.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/8/14 at 3:14pm
post #9788 of 11259
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I have blue-tinted lenses because I use the computer so much. :D

Have you ever tried f.lux?

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Have you ever tried f.lux?

Nope. I did consider gunnars at one point though.
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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

I put my Alpha Pads on my 2012 Astro A40s. They fit perfect! They're a little more boomy and isolate much better now. I'm not using them on any headphones at the moment, so I think I'll leave them on the Astros for a bit. It's weird because the shape of the Astros cups are the same shape as the Alpha Pads, so it looks like they may have come that way.

photo IMAG0543_zpsc0bf7312.jpg

 

And my Gunnar Optiks Marley gaming glasses. Yeah, I'm a try-hard.

photo IMAG0547_1_zpsedd81c2d.jpg

 

^ he could make a living off of pads alone if they were 45 bucks a pop

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 


It's nice that you got BOTH the Yamaha and Final Audio VI, both of which are under my radar. Wonder if it's worth checking out the Yamahas or go straight to Pandora. I prefer "^--" response that I think Q40 does very well. The Yamaha costs like $200 new in europe and that's with even ~20% VAT included so it seems to be a little cheaper over here.

I want to see the new pads they are making for the pandora... That may make a big difference in sound and the new pads are needed. It will be thicker i am sure so that should trap the bass even better.

 

I am also partially hopeful that the hd 8 dj will buffer my loss of the yamaha but a fellow reported that the bass impact on the yamaha is more than the hd 8 dj. That will make me not so happy. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/8/14 at 3:46pm
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Hasn't the Pandoras been pulled off Amazon? I think I saw something along those lines before. If so, where can you get them!? 

 

I was actually only a hair away from ordering them, but back then I ultimately decided that they were too expensive for my principles. Now they're just too expensive for my wife's principles.

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Hasn't the Pandoras been pulled off Amazon? I think I saw something along those lines before. If so, where can you get them!? 

 

I was actually only a hair away from ordering them, but back then I ultimately decided that they were too expensive for my principles. Now they're just too expensive for my wife's principles.

if it was the amazon uk then yes probably because they had the wrong price and pulled it before too many orders were placed. 

 

you can get them from 

http://www.jaben.co.th/news/20/pandora-hope-vi-is-here/ 

 

http://shop.iriverinc.com

 

that latter is where I bought mine from

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Depends if you enjoy V-shape sound or not. The Pro900 also has heavily boosted highs that sound a bit unrealistic.

 

If the highs are emphasized like a grado can then i dont see it being a problem. My main issue with the HFI-580 is the mids and highs have a metallic sound to them, do you notice this with the pro900?

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Nope. I did consider gunnars at one point though.

You should try it, considering it's free and everything.

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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

if it was the amazon uk then yes probably because they had the wrong price and pulled it before too many orders were placed. 

 

you can get them from 

http://www.jaben.co.th/news/20/pandora-hope-vi-is-here/ 

 

http://shop.iriverinc.com

 

that latter is where I bought mine from

Review that puppy!!

 

I saw the Beyer COP review...lol....sorry but I failed and bought/returned those pieces of over rated_____. Ya see how group think and youtube reviews can push total craa_!!

I put it on the bassy list because it is bassy...craptastical hollow cardboard box resonating crappage.    In my very humble opinion....very humble:D

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