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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

LOL.

Thank God for different tastes!!  He called the Denons ugly but his favorites yield that ugly ass XX on the cups?! Come on man... but good call WL! Keep it via PM... although it is kind of funny...

 

Anyway, updated the wiki that Hawaiibadboy began and gave me permission to update. Included one of the headphones you posted in your pictures... the Monster N-Pulse. I actually liked them a lot.

Thanks.

The Yamaha 500's were a shoe in. They are quite close to cannon status. With Hip Hop tracks the slam was tremendous and better than the Beats series or similar types. Putting them in the same section as ______ just seemed wrong but you had them longer than me.  It is an impressive pair of cans...ugly....77's look like stuff that was used as Battle star gallactica headgear ...then thrown in the no way bin and a JVC Otaku/Tech rifled through their garbage...The Yamaha are the same....look like Stanley Kubrick 2001 A Space Odyssey  props that never made the film but made it onto basshead cans??   The Yamaha 500 series...very close to cannon, physical impact very pronounced on low end heavy genre.

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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

Off topic, things I did at work yesterday:

 

 

Warning: Bragging! (Click to show)

Worked a large festival. There was a neat Pioneer tent/display/area:

 

 


 


 

 

 

 

 

Octagons...what did you think??

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Wondering if a simple ($500 range)

                                (4-$500 range)

                                (3-$400 range)

                                (2-$300 range)

                                (Under $200)

 

Break the bassy section into 100 dollar increments. Seeing Yamaha 500 near some others is a shame. 

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playing this track after 1:50 seconds where its just basically bass:

https://soundcloud.com/foolsgoldrecs/kosmo-shinobi-intro

 

- the yamaha hph mt220 with alpha pads is just as, if not more strong in the low end as the q40. I actually am wondering why I keep trying to sell it and then let it go. It surprises me and then underwhelms me.

 

I think it is because the bass does what the track does because on others it doesn't sound as strong... but I could say the same thing about the q40 however I wouldn't call the yamaha hph mt220 a basshead headphone. 

 

variables:

-yamaha could be more scalable??

-yamaha has alpha pads

-q40 has beyer pads

-nuforce ha-200 amp on both. 

 

I know its not the amp because it definitely gave legs to my fostex mods. 

 

where I stand now:

yamaha mt220 with alphas and  hardware bass boost would be a fine basshead headphone. Just haven't checked if it goes into the mids or not really.  Q40 isn't as powerful down low as I thought but still very good down there sometimes it feels like its really tight and focused in the bass. I would overall prefer the yamaha technicalities with the balance of the q40 seeing as I like a darker sound though the yamaha doesn't come off as really bright next to it. Just more open and airy. 

 

just did another track and yeah the yamaha with alphas are stronger down there. but it could be track selective I dunno.

 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/7/14 at 10:15pm
post #9755 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

Octagons...what did you think??

 

Didn't get to try them, unfortunately! Maybe tomorrow when I'm back on site.

 

Worth trying?

post #9756 of 11259
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

Didn't get to try them, unfortunately! Maybe tomorrow when I'm back on site.

 

Worth trying?

I think they are just re-framed Monsters best bass cans. I love MMA so I liked the design but nobody was saying anything about the specs or tech so I took it to mean a cosmetic adjustment as opposed to anything design wise inside.

 

I'd like to have a pair but I think they sound like my Beat Pro's.

Certainly worth trying but buying??? Nah....unless your really really into MMA 

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Yamaha makes one of my favorite bass cans with the Pro 500's. I wouldn't doubt for a second they have other gems. How was the bass before the mod?

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I think there was some form of lawsuit with Yamaha 300, 400 and 500, due to them looking like Beats or something. I can't remember exactly. 

post #9759 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

Yamaha makes one of my favorite bass cans with the Pro 500's. I wouldn't doubt for a second they have other gems. How was the bass before the mod?

it was similar just a little bit less and less boomy. I would try those pro 500's but I don't like the beats build It looks cool but I would hate to see wear on it.

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I added them. The spectrum shows low boosting in the typical bassy range.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-High-Fidelity-Premium-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0092T858E

 

Meanwhile the Pro 500 are 50% off on Amazon?? wth....The price is unchanged in Japan.

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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

 

 

 

playing this track after 1:50 seconds where its just basically bass:

https://soundcloud.com/foolsgoldrecs/kosmo-shinobi-intro

 

- the yamaha hph mt220 with alpha pads is just as, if not more strong in the low end as the q40. I actually am wondering why I keep trying to sell it and then let it go. It surprises me and then underwhelms me.

 

I think it is because the bass does what the track does because on others it doesn't sound as strong... but I could say the same thing about the q40 however I wouldn't call the yamaha hph mt220 a basshead headphone. 

 

variables:

-yamaha could be more scalable??

-yamaha has alpha pads

-q40 has beyer pads

-nuforce ha-200 amp on both. 

 

I know its not the amp because it definitely gave legs to my fostex mods. 

 

where I stand now:

yamaha mt220 with alphas and  hardware bass boost would be a fine basshead headphone. Just haven't checked if it goes into the mids or not really.  Q40 isn't as powerful down low as I thought but still very good down there sometimes it feels like its really tight and focused in the bass. I would overall prefer the yamaha technicalities with the balance of the q40 seeing as I like a darker sound though the yamaha doesn't come off as really bright next to it. Just more open and airy. 

 

just did another track and yeah the yamaha with alphas are stronger down there. but it could be track selective I dunno.

 


You're comparing with two different pads. I don't either know how well the Beyer pleather pads work as they are not very commonly used. I hated Q40 with Hifiman pleather pads for example which look pretty similar to the Beyer and swapped instantly back to stock. Why can't you give alpha pads on Q40 a try? :) Some people swear the pads are a very noticeable upgrade in sound quality and also boosts its bass power a bit.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/8/14 at 12:12am
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You're comparing with two different pads. I don't either know how well the Beyer pleather pads work as they are not very commonly used. I hated Q40 with Hifiman pleather pads for example which look pretty similar to the Beyer and swapped instantly back to stock. Why can't you give alpha pads on Q40 a try? :) Some people swear the pads are a very noticeable upgrade in sound quality and also boosts its bass power a bit.

i did give it a try earlier I just can't remember my impressions I was playing a video game at the same time and paused in-between to pay attention. I will wait for my Mad dogs to get back and use those pads so I have them on both at the same time. I expect the q40 to become more BASSY.

 

you are right about comparing different pads. I am and basically just saying that the yamaha with alpha pads aren't what I imagine as basshead levels though I could be wrong and that it is a little louder than the q40.  I also haven't had basshead phones in a while.

 

I am new to this thread I must confess that I listen mainly to bass heavy music but haven't had too many basshead hp's lately because I am more of a total head and like to hear everything else really well. 

 

what was it that you hated about it? i will try stock now.

 

also I am not saying i am not impressed by the q40 overall. I like it a ton!


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/8/14 at 12:33am
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what was it that you hated about it? i will try stock now.


There was two different ways of wearing the Hifiman pleather pads, it comes with a rubber ring that you can use or not use and with the rubber ring installed it sounded very dark, the highs took a noticeable drop and the bass quantity become slightly bigger but the quality of the bass was impacted negatively very significantly, it was just boomy, not as textured, more "cloudy". 

With the rubber-ring off it become the opposite, even brighter than stock but also lost bass power significantly, I could no longer feel that "ear-tickling-sensation" I like. :p

I personally use the stock pads with inserted rolled paper towel pieces that slightly increase the depth (I use 1/3 of a kitcher paper roll piece in each cup rolled up and stuffed underneath), this mod makes the Q40 very balanced in the mids vs highs (and very slight boost in soundstaging). With stock pads the ears sits so close to the drivers that the midrange becomes sliiiightly more forward than the highs (the tonal balance is slightly more smooth) but with my paper towel inserts that only makes it maybe 2-3 mm deeper makes it perfect in balance (mids vs highs).

Pad-rolling is a sensitive business. :P


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/8/14 at 12:44am
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

How does a big ol brown thing that looks like half a bowling ball look good?... Eh whatever. I actually don't think that JVC's are that good looking. That would go to the HD 598's I'm getting. Or the monster diamond tears. Absolutely beautiful headphones. Works of art.

 

* facepalm *

 

At least Dre as making a conscious effort to improve his headphones, and from reports, the new offerings are actually quite good.

 

I wish Dre would go into partnership with Audeze with Audeze strictly in charge of sound quality...that would really change the game.  I was watching a documentary on dre on youtube...his mom recounts how she bought him a turntable when he was a child....she later found him asleep with headphones on and the music still playing.

 

Which gets me thinking.  We need sexy in the audio industry - young people are drawn to some kind of a sex appeal.  Vinyl has this 'essence' - there is a coolness to owning a turntable - it has been the imagery of a DJ (the guitarist of the new era) and cannot be separated.  I think tube amplifiers with their glowing tubes poking out will work - they do not look like a boring box...we can also leverage the once cool electric guitar and their tube amps for coolness.

 

I can visualise this already...you finally get a girl home (for me, the game is won at this stage) - you pour out some liquor, put a record on and drop the needle - something to make her comfortable, something you like - for you, not for her (but it IS for her!)...the tube amp is glowing in the dim light (put on a desk lamp if you don't have a dimmer)...let the music play softly.  She gonna have to think you gonna be into her like you into music - completely uniquely.

 

I wonder if its too late for me to be a DJ.  Every time I've done a party I've taken control of the music...I know what tune to play to match the vibe of the people...then I know when they are tired of dancing...I know to put chill songs - let people rest, wind down the volume and boost the treble.  Then when the conversation gets quiet I immediately move to put an upbeat track - pump the volume and wind down the treble (I compensate for bass and treble depending on volume and recording).

 

In effect I don't just control people with the music with track and volume - I am by the EQ all the time.  I notice the reaction of the drunk and stoned party goers when I play with the EQ to match the volume and track - the stunned expression on their face and I know what they're thinking.  Something like 'what'd you just do to the sound - how'd uou do that? I've never seen anyone do this - you're the ONLY one'...not very humble I know, but I can't help that I can read peoples body language and expression!  It ALWAYS ends at around 4am with soft and slow tempo music - it MUST.

 

I hate DJs in a club that never look at the crowd...they are heads down not knowing how the patrons are responding to their track progressions - playing music he likes...not what the crowd likes - depending on age and demographic etc (narcissistic DJs - most of them).  A DJ needs to always be monitoring not just the music...but the crowd...at all times.


Edited by SP Wild - 3/8/14 at 12:55am
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There was two different ways of wearing the Hifiman pleather pads, it comes with a rubber ring that you can use or not use and with the rubber ring installed it sounded very dark, the highs took a noticeable drop and the bass quantity become slightly bigger but the quality of the bass was impacted negatively very significantly, it was just boomy, not as textured, more "cloudy". 

With the rubber-ring off it become the opposite, even brighter than stock but also lost bass power significantly, I could no longer feel that "ear-tickling-sensation" I like. :p

I personally use the stock pads with inserted rolled paper towel pieces that slightly increase the depth, this mod makes the Q40 very balanced in the mids vs highs. With stock pads the ears sits so close to the drivers that the midrange becomes sliiiightly more forward than the highs but with my paper towel inserts that only makes it maybe 2-3 mm deeper makes it perfect in balance (mids vs highs).

i see. thanks for helping me understand. I don't think my hearing is as good as yours. I can tell that this headphone is more forward in the mids now right away with the stock pads and it seems brighter. I hate these freakin pads ugghhh they feel like rolls of cardboard on my ears.

 

:confused::confused:

 

I am too confused right now and have a headache. The song that i put in the little bass report sounds more bass heavy on the yamaha with alphas and then the others I tried sounds more bass heavy on the q40 with stock pads. I don't freakin know. I will hang em all up for tonight and put everything here up for sale at 50 a pop. j/p.

 

I am too tired to vs the stock pads against the beyers to be sure. But I can just say that I can hear why its a basshead hp now. wayyy better than the spider power force that is for sure.  

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