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Originally Posted by magnetiq View Post
 

so guys, i bought a pair of darth beyers v3 about 6 years ago now, they still working but i've had to shoddily resolder them twice and the left driver is probably blown

 

is there a retail equivalent nowadays? i haven't had to look at headphones for a while and it seems there are a lot of choices out there. i'm not spending even more money than i spent on v3 getting v4s *(huh, on to v6 now) from the same place, i could probably find someone to properly refurb my cans but i'm interested to see what my other options are.

 

 

cheers


I had an extra deep cup V3 and I prefer my Denon D2000, especially now with aftermarket extra deep cups as well (and Lawton damping).  Wish I had thought about damping the Darth Beyers when I had them as the bass was very deep but not good sounding and a bit muddy at times. 

post #9512 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 


I had an extra deep cup V3 and I prefer my Denon D2000, especially now with aftermarket extra deep cups as well (and Lawton damping).  Wish I had thought about damping the Darth Beyers when I had them as the bass was very deep but not good sounding and a bit muddy at times

and so is my experience with every beyer I have tried todate.

post #9513 of 11259
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

and so is my experience with every beyer I have tried todate.
May I ask, what headphones from Beyer have you tried? Never really felt any muddiness with my dt880's.
post #9514 of 11259
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and so is my experience with every beyer I have tried todate.


I had the Darth which was based on a DT770 w/80 ohms, and a DT770 LE with the 32 ohm driver and neither was tight.  Knowing what I know now about damping, I'd have given both of them the dynamat treatment. 

post #9515 of 11259
What's an aftermarket deep cup, and what's dampening?... I just recently delved into the world of audio... Like, 2.5 months ago. Oh, and the FiiO E11 came with an audio cable, but it had a 90 degree plug and didn't look very good, so I bought a straight plugged cable... That broke now, so I plugged in the 90 degree FiiO cable, and I noticed an instant increase in volume, and quality. Did not expect the cable to actually be better than the one I bought. Probably should have tried it first!
post #9516 of 11259
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May I ask, what headphones from Beyer have you tried? Never really felt any muddiness with my dt880's.

I should stay away from superlatives.  Also muddy isnt as much the case with some as fuzzy or lacking weight. but to be clear.

 

custom one pro

dt770

dt990

t90

 

its just the beyer house bass is not my favorite and I havent had one that was ideal regardless of quantity. Not saying they all totally sucked either. 

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cool, well i'm looking for something that has at least the same amount of bass quantity, but particularly something that has good (strong) mid and sub-bass—really don't want to lose that, even at the expense of something a lot tighter.

 

as far as i can tell, the leading candidates seem to be d2000s, pro 900s and perhaps a few of the sony xb-series headphones?

 

i have teh feeling i might be treading on well-worn ground asking these type of questions, but i'm a bit confused as none of the the threads i've been researching mention darths and so i have a poor understanding of what i could get in comparison.

 

for lack of a better term, i want something meaty at those sub frequencies.

 

thanks again

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Originally Posted by magnetiq View Post

 

thanks again

 

It's what we are here for, mate. 
 

Us bassheads stick together.

 

:L3000:

post #9519 of 11259
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Originally Posted by magnetiq View Post
 

cool, well i'm looking for something that has at least the same amount of bass quantity, but particularly something that has good (strong) mid and sub-bass—really don't want to lose that, even at the expense of something a lot tighter.

 

as far as i can tell, the leading candidates seem to be d2000s, pro 900s and perhaps a few of the sony xb-series headphones?

 

i have teh feeling i might be treading on well-worn ground asking these type of questions, but i'm a bit confused as none of the the threads i've been researching mention darths and so i have a poor understanding of what i could get in comparison.

 

for lack of a better term, i want something meaty at those sub frequencies.

 

thanks again

 

I owned the pro 900's for 2 days and they are cheaply built 40mm driven screechers with a nice low end out of the box but amping will expose and distort them long before their price tags suggest. The worst headphone experience of my life. The Q40 at least sounded great while I had them...the Ultrasone 900 pro and DJ are vastly over rated. Stay away. I ate a 30% unboxing fee and smiled because they were that bad.

 

Sony xb are rubber ball low freq absorbing mud makers. ...by design. They fire the lows around the driver and through the rubber. It's a gimmick. I only give recommendations if asked directly so I'll give you none.

 

The 900's are gonna shred your ears and the built quality for the price is absurd. Bass? wildly overrated 

 

Sony? Some of the MDR series might make you smile but the rubber ball XB on ears will NOT!


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 3/3/14 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

I owned the pro 900's for 2 days and they are cheaply built 40mm driven screechers with a nice low end out of the box but amping will expose and distort them long before their price tags suggest. The worst headphone experience of my life. The Q40 at least sounded great while I had them...the Ultrasone 900 pro and DJ are vastly over rated. Stay away. I ate a 30% unboxing fee and smiled because they were that bad.

Sony xb are rubber ball low freq absorbing mud makers. ...by design. They fire the lows around the driver and through the rubber. It's a gimmick. I only give recommendations if asked directly so I'll give you none.

The 900's are gonna shred your ears and the built quality for the price is absurd. Bass? wildly overrated 

Sony? Some of the MDR series might make you smile but the rubber ball XB on ears will NOT!

The dj1s or have you tried the signature djs?

I would over rate the signature djs, they make my ears cry with joy

And pain

From the bass
post #9521 of 11259
Again, what is aftermarket deep cup, and what's dampening?????????????????
post #9522 of 11259
Aftermarket cup is, a new custom made cup, that is deeper than stock. Alters sound.
Dampening is a material that can be placed in the cup, that also changes the sound.
post #9523 of 11259
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Originally Posted by magnetiq View Post

cool, well i'm looking for something that has at least the same amount of bass quantity, but particularly something that has good (strong) mid and sub-bass—really don't want to lose that, even at the expense of something a lot tighter.

as far as i can tell, the leading candidates seem to be d2000s, pro 900s and perhaps a few of the sony xb-series headphones?

i have teh feeling i might be treading on well-worn ground asking these type of questions, but i'm a bit confused as none of the the threads i've been researching mention darths and so i have a poor understanding of what i could get in comparison.

for lack of a better term, i want something meaty at those sub frequencies.

thanks again

Depending on the budget, yes, Denon D2000, Ultrasone Pro900 are two good options. Hawaii guys masssacre of the Pro900 notwithstanding, there are a lot of us who love them and consider them one of the best basshead phones made. Some hear a screeching mess but don't just take his one attack as gospel. They are comfy, go deep and look good doing so. I put Alpha pads on them and the comfort and sound is wonderful.

I prefer Denons over all else and the parent Fostex cans are thumpers, and the always suggested Q40's are a great can for any price. Darths are eye candy and can't compete with better quality drivers like Denons. Kind of depends on your basshead angle - are you after jaw shaking bass at the expense of quality? Didn't think so.

Like anything, YMMV.
Edited by Oregonian - 3/3/14 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post


The dj1s or have you tried the signature djs?

I would over rate the signature djs, they make my ears cry with joy

And pain

From the bass

Signature Dj's.and 900 pro sound the same as far as bass impact shrilly highs

 

I lost 250 bucks in 2 hours. (unboxing fee) 30%

 

I also amped and distorted them. He refused a cash return but gave me 70% store credit so I spent 2 hours between new Beat Pro's ,Velodyne vTrue ,or SMS Pro Dj's (only open ones he'd let me amp)

 

I already own Beats pro, The Velodyne sound un naturally bright like Ultrasone which means if you raise the bass you raise the highs unless you tune the highs down and then what's the point?

The SMS had real soft leather cushion were the best ANC headphones I have ever tried and are Beats with a full spectrum . So I bought a pair I didn't need because I bought a much more expensive pair I didn't need.

 

This all happened a week ago and before my AKAI arrived.

 

The build quality of my AKAI are far and away superior to the Ultrasone signature DJ/Pro 900's. 

 

 

 

 

The sound and real leather /memory foam cushions are gonna be nice for movie watching and clearer pre tuned bass music

 

 

 

 

I still got 400 bucks credit and I STILL haven't found anything that hits as hard as the 77's on amp. It is what it is. My cheapest cans are the most powerful

I love em'....but damn....the cans on this site recommended by folks with appreciation threads and stuff just blow my mind....blow my miiiiiiind!!!

 

The AKAI are being slowly tuned. They are never leaving me. Sound and build are outstanding. They are keepers. I'll do a review after finding their limit/proper tuning

 

 

EDIT:

 

I also owned the COP which I got on the same day as the Q40.

 

Does anyone really like those with amp? I thought they were more muddy than XB's Sony MDR are a better bass series from Sony. But the COPs...anyone own them and love them in this thread? I thought they were horrible.

 

The Signature Pro's

These are what lost me 250 bucks for opening and amping them   NOT the 900 pro. 


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 3/3/14 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


Depending on the budget, yes, Denon D2000, Ultrasone Pro900 are two good options. Hawaii guys masssacre of the Pro900 notwithstanding, there are a lot of us who love them and consider them one of the best basshead phones made. Some hear a screeching mess but don't just take his one attack as gospel. They are comfy, go deep and look good doing so. I put Alpha pads on them and the comfort and sound is wonderful.

I prefer Denons over all else and the parent Fostex cans are thumpers, and the always suggested Q40's are a great can for any price. Darths are eye candy and can't compete with better quality drivers like Denons. Kind of depends on your basshead angle - are you after jaw shaking bass at the expense of quality? Didn't think so.

Like anything, YMMV.

 

They were not giving me the slam that the legend implies. The Denon's? I like em..I think you need a cup of some size to resonate lows ...tuning the drivers so to speak. The Ultrasone.....are not on par with similarly priced Denon imho;) 

 

P.S.

I bought the 1000 dollar Sig Pro's.

Worst 2 hours of my Headphone life. Watching Q40 have an anomalous fail was easy because they were cheap and clearly dissolved but the Ultrasone cost much much much more and my view into the 1k + headphone world is done. It cost me 250 bucks to be in that zone but the build and sound made me never ever wanna go back. Placebo, group think....I zombied out for a couple hours...never again.


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 3/3/14 at 8:20pm
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