Aaah, my point.
Last year they tried to sell similar ones for 550-600 in Japan. I got friends who are DJ's and they are to a man not rich. They have the life they like and some toys but not rich. They pay for the club time and a % of profit.
He's saying "same headphones" meaning same drivers. So these are redesigned overpriced cans being price adjusted by the market. If RPGWizard is right these are the same drivers going into M-Audio's new big brother. THAT is worth 250 bucks......Oh hell yeah.
I returned 2 headphones 1 because they were NOT what i thought and the other because it broke. I get to be on the front of a release by a good manufacturer and worse case scenario is I do what i did today...return em. The Japan price is 250. I think this is M-Audio's brother no? Maybe they release under that brand in America?