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Originally Posted by BucketInABucket View Post
 

HD650s made after 2007 (I think) have drivers that are silver-coloured (the one on the right in the photo I conveniently found online). Apparently when compared to the old version, they are brighter and more balanced although I haven't personally compared the two myself.

 

P.S. I should mention that I paid GBP49 for the Q40s on the recent amazon.co.uk sale, a big discount from their usual price.

oh then I had the silver


Edited by grizzlybeast - 2/18/14 at 12:16pm
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@gelocks well then they will be in mine eventually

 

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 


Dido's are delivering to me today for audition.  Should be fun to compare them to Pro900, Q40, Denon D2000, TH900 and, yes, the illustrious JVC HAMX-55 (which sound like ass).  I remember when the XB500 sounded good................a short two years ago. 

 

Dido sounds intriguing so very interested to see if they creak and how the quality of the sound translates to an audiophile basshead.  Posting up later or tomorrow. 

:biggrin: 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 2/18/14 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
 

Impedance affects its power, since P=I^2 x R

 

You can power high impedance headphones fine, but you might not be able to drive them properly, if you know what I mean. Bass won't be as prominent and mids will be slightly recessed, for example.

granted, but impedance isnt everything. sensitivity, though i dont remember the specifics, is spl for a given voltage at a certain frequency.

 

what im trying to say is that the impedance measurement doesnt give you all you need to know. just cause a certain headphone has the impedance of 8 ohm, doesnt mean much by itself... alot of speakers for example are 8 ohm, or 6 ohm... theres more to consider. personally, if the sensitivity is given, id rather go by that.

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 


Dido's are delivering to me today for audition.  Should be fun to compare them to Pro900, Q40, Denon D2000, TH900 and, yes, the illustrious JVC HAMX-55 (which sound like ass).  I remember when the XB500 sounded good................a short two years ago. 

 

Dido sounds intriguing so very interested to see if they creak and how the quality of the sound translates to an audiophile basshead.  Posting up later or tomorrow. 

 

YAY!!! :-)

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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

:biggrin: 

 

LOL! :veryevil:

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post
 

granted, but impedance isnt everything. sensitivity, though i dont remember the specifics, is spl for a given voltage at a certain frequency.

 

what im trying to say is that the impedance measurement doesnt give you all you need to know. just cause a certain headphone has the impedance of 8 ohm, doesnt mean much by itself... alot of speakers for example are 8 ohm, or 6 ohm... theres more to consider. personally, if the sensitivity is given, id rather go by that.

That's what I was trying to imply. You can get 60Ω headphones and drive them fine from a phone, as long as they're sensitive. Reading reviews is normally the best way to find out if they can be driven from a phone :D

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@RPGWiZaRD how does the ZO 2.3 (I assume this model is the one you use?) go with IEMs?

 

I see reports of a low impedance (good)

 

But lots of hiss (bad).

 

I'm heading overseas again soon, so looking to update my portable setup for the flight (once my desktop rig is complete, which it nearly is).

 

My main fear, is this:

 

If the ZO hisses too much, I might have to run it in "Line out" mode into another amp.

 

Which.. you know..

 

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xDDDDDD

I'm using v2.1, but I do have the v2.3 as well but v2.1 sounds better to me. :) The 2.3 has "okay" noisefloor, not impressive, not bad, works with most IEMs, maybe becomes slight issue with the most sensitive IEMs if you're particularly picky. However I'd just wait for ZO3, it's pretty much consists of handpicked components to provide as little output impedance and hiss as possible. The output impedance on ZO3 is listed as <1.5 ohm, don't know about the noise but it's said to be much lower than ZO2.3 too. :)

Seems to be slight delay of ZO3 though, at this point I expected at least to be able to preorder but it's been silent from digiZoid for a little while now.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/18/14 at 2:35pm
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My supplier is still waiting on release dates and information - not a good sign. It might not be released before I leave for Japan (in June). 

 

I'm hoping to use it with highly sensitive IEMs..

 

Maybe I'll give it a miss.

 

:(

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Hey, hawaii bad boy, what music do you casually listen to anyhow? I couldnt imagine only listening to songs meant for bass constantly. Once in a while its fun though.

 

Those cans are for a niche' within Hip hop Kendrick Lamar's MaAd City CD sounds dope. Geto Boys.Lotta mix tapes and songs on the "Heavy Hitters" list for car audio. Ironically I have tuned them to play the way my subs did. They play 2pac's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFe8NmtFD2s Papaz Song which was inaudible with Beats studios. And other deep resonating throws. The vented earcups have some effect here. 

 

 

 

When I listen to my new Ultrasone 580's they sound too bright but I can fix that easy the sound stage is really nice but...they are often (every review on here) as having good bass. Not really. I took the Onkyo, Ath 50m, AKG 545 which have the same level of bass OFF my sig list because they are entry level audiophile cans with bassy sound. I learned when sitting with the 77x and 580's side by side (580's have 50mm drivers and are touted on ultrasones as being the ones in that series for bass) ..I learned "bassy" cans and Cannons are different things. The DT770's belong on the "Bassy" list IMO as they cannot thump anymore than AKG 545's and the COPS...I heard those many times and they are not cannons like the Yamaha 500, COPS do use an adjustable tuning port which gives a little more low end tuning so I like em but they are well made and comfortable but not go to cans for Hip hip..IMO.

 

 JVC 77x ,Yamaha Pro 500, V Moda 100, Beats executive, Denon D600.  (These are the only ones that hit harder than the Avg consumers first bass thump experience the Beats Studios) They all play better all around then their role model though Denon is a bit crazy on pricing. The V moda hit like Denons for 100 bucks less.

 

Price doesn't equal results in this jumbled field. I imagine the reference/studio/ audiophile headphones have a more price= quality tiered set of levels? In the Bass head area it is a mess. 

 

 

I just clearly read your question and realized I wrote a novel and didn't even answer it. Hip hop is my thing. That said...my sheer displeasure with the Ultrasone 580's (they sounded great amped in a store but in the quiet of my room ) they are not ever playing hip hop. Kinda sad but they CAN play Pink Floyd, Lynrd Skynrd, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Violent Femmes, Black flag, and R&B and Jazz. So the 580's have expanded my accessible audio portfolio. :D


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 2/18/14 at 7:19pm
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@RPGWiZaRD 

 

Can I use the Digizoid with my e12 of is that redundant? 

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@RPGWiZaRD 

 

Can I use the Digizoid with my e12 of is that redundant? 


It is not redundant.  I ran my ZO with my E11 for a long time as a double amp setup.  I'd set the ZO on high gain on highest contour red (max bass) and use the E11 to control volume.  Worked great................you might like it. 

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It is not redundant.  I ran my ZO with my E11 for a long time as a double amp setup.  I'd set the ZO on high gain on highest contour red (max bass) and use the E11 to control volume.  Worked great................you might like it. 

Thanks for the reply

 

So I run  Cowon>>>ZO>>>AMP>>>Cans?

 

Do you have experience with the Mach3bass. It's my best experience so far for low end tweaking. Do they sell em anymore because the website says sold out? I didn't get an email reply as to whether they would ship to Japan. I definitely want something like this....I am THE target...hit me!!!:D 


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 2/18/14 at 7:37pm
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 Hello Chris,
 
Thank you for contacting me regarding ZO2's availability. Unfortunately, all of our resellers and we are out of stock.

The digiZoid ZO2 has been discontinued, for the time, as we are releasing a ZO3 within the next couple of months. You can sign up for the release of ZO3 at: http://www.digizoid.com/?p=zo3

Here are some of ZO3's features and benefits:
- The high end (treble) and low end (bass) emphasized, thus turning your speakers into bass monsters or anything in-between with complete clarity.
- 1024 sound profiles that can be selected in seconds and on the fly.
- More power, therefore more headroom.
- Ultra low background noise.
- Very small anodized aluminum enclosure.
- Full color OLED screen.
- Audio circuity is all analog.
- Digital potentiometer
- All components are audiophile grade.

This is what I know so far.

I would be happy to contact you when ZO3 is available.

 

I'm gonna pass. I cannot wait but they responded quickly and thoroughly. I hope the ZO3 is a big success and if shipping to Japan isn't too much stress I'll jump back in. Good luck to the company!

 

Anyone use these with over ear cans? I see IEM in the sites pic and in mention here. 


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 2/18/14 at 7:54pm
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Anyone use these with over ear cans? I see IEM in the sites pic and in mention here. 

The setup I described earlier (ZO with E11) was feeding either my Pro900, Q40 or D2000.
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