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post #9046 of 11100
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Originally Posted by canuckavelli View Post
 

I'm looking for a basshead IEM for only rap/hip-hop

- I own a DT 770 PRO 32 ohm, but I don't want to use it for portable reasons anymore
- Want something more bassy
- Past headphones include ATH-M50, V-Moda M100. Bass level should be around the same as the M100, maybe a bit less.
- I have a portable amp but I prefer to drive them directly from my iPod Classic
- I ordered the Monoprice 8320 for the timebeing, should get em sometime this week
- So far from my research, the VSonic GR07 Bass Edition, Wooduo 2, Yamaha EPH-100, and Shure SE215 seem to be the best
- What about the Klipsch x10, or Nuforce NE-700M?


 

 

Budget?

post #9047 of 11100
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post

Budget?

$100-200. The m100 sound signature is what I'm after.
post #9048 of 11100
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

I loved the Ultrasone 900 and will get em' if I wreck these JVC's. The 580's I will keep for long term with comfort modding.

I live in Japan and had the unique?....(Compared to Hawaii and New York the sheer amount of headphones on display was enormous and there were several superstores. I wonder if this is common around the world nowadays or if I got lucky)....a seemingly unique experience listening to almost everything listed on this site with a 30 min drive.

The Ultrasone 900 for 600 bucks
The Fostex TH 900 for 1499ish

I thought they sounded similar but I liked the Ultrasone 900's better. Paying close to 1000 more for a set that sounded within the same range as the ones you already own? It's your money but maybe more research and direct comparisons using your portable amp rig?

Do you have a lot of chances to test these yourself?

Keep in mind the isolation factor. If you listened to both in a quiet room the differences would become more noticable. And i feel it takes time to adjust to greater clarity and quality.

Did u get a chance to listen to the ultrasone signature djs?
Edited by sloomingbla - 2/11/14 at 7:42pm
post #9049 of 11100

You're right but money is no object. I own my own English School in Japan and rake in cash. I still can't see the Fostex being worth 3x the 900's in any way? I do get your point though. No I did SEE the S Dj's but they would not let me plug my amp into them.

 

I was unplugging all the stuff from a giant router that had 50 headphones running of it. They were playing Jazz which is the definition of Mids. Half the stuff they had on display with Jazz were not built for Jazz...clearly. They were highlighting the expensive stuff and just letting the rest man the ***** up?? 90% of the sales are in those cheaper sub 50,000 yen range but ...JAZZ for everybody!!:rolleyes:

 

They saw me coming by the time I got to them S Dj's and I don't recall if they were even out of the box? I was soooooo busy..happy/sad/frustrated/ kid in a candy store

post #9050 of 11100
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

How are the Digizoid products, in terms of output impedance?

 

Do they handle IEMs pretty well?


The output impedance is low if I remember right something on 2 or so ohm, don't remember exactly what it was anymore on the current series but the ZO3 is soon gonna launch anyway so and the provided spec according to digiZoid themselves it's <1.5 Ω. They seem to have specifically picked components in the chain to get as low output impedance and noise as possible, seems to have been a clear goal for ZO3.

http://digizoid.com/blog/digizoid-zo3-overview/
http://digizoid.com/blog/inside-look-zo3-headphone-amp-circuit-board/


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/11/14 at 10:17pm
post #9051 of 11100
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 


The output impedance is low, don't remember exactly what it was anymore on the current series but the ZO3 is soon gonna launch anyway so and the provided spec according to digiZoid themselves it's <1.5 Ω

http://digizoid.com/blog/digizoid-zo3-overview/
 

 

Hmm. I don't like the way that frequency response will work, if their info-graph is anything to go off.

 

If I have a can that lacks in bass, I don't want to be boosting the highs too much..

post #9052 of 11100
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

... I still can't see the Fostex being worth 3x the 900's in any way?...

In this hobby, the law of diminishing returns comes rather early. I don't know when it hits in the car subwoofer hobby, but a pair of Fostex TH-900 isn't going to sound three times as good as a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900. 

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I could hit (as measured by IASCA techs)    143.1 and 138.2 dB. That is with 2 15" w3's in a ported box.

 

The record is 181.2 dB. That's with 10+ times more power than what I had and 2 18"'s I believe.

 

The diminished returns factor happens very rapidly and clearly in car audio (SPL dB) It's like a truck pull where as the weight gets higher it's getting exponentially more heavy by the inch.

 

If 2 15's get me ____ then 4 must get me 2x......nah...it might get me +2 - 4dB ...I doubled my money and increased measurable factors by less than 5%

 

Fostex 900's will never sound 3 times better than Ultrasone 900's. 

post #9054 of 11100

You're leaving out personal preferences out of the mix that is a vital aspect in this hobby. Not everyone likes the heavily exaggerated V-shape response of Pro900. I personally want "^--" (bumped bass but even mid and highs presence) then I don't think it would be a prob finding TH900 3x better than Pro900, maybe even 4-5x in my case. :)

No matter how great the bass response is, if the midrange is too pushed behind then I will end up selling/returning a headphone.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/11/14 at 10:14pm
post #9055 of 11100
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

Hmm. I don't like the way that frequency response will work, if their info-graph is anything to go off.

 

If I have a can that lacks in bass, I don't want to be boosting the highs too much..


Who says you have to boost the highs? You tune the bass and treble separately, I won't either personally end up using the treble adjustment most of the times until I pick up a can with veiled highs to begin with, then that feature becomes useful. Too bad you can't lower the highs though, that had also been useful (for example Pro900, DT990, 770 etc to get them better balanced in mids vs highs).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/11/14 at 10:22pm
post #9056 of 11100
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

I could hit (as measured by IASCA techs)    143.1 and 138.2 dB. That is with 2 15" w3's in a ported box.

 

The record is 181.2 dB. That's with 10+ times more power than what I had and 2 18"'s I believe.

 

The diminished returns factor happens very rapidly and clearly in car audio (SPL dB) It's like a truck pull where as the weight gets higher it's getting exponentially more heavy by the inch.

 

If 2 15's get me ____ then 4 must get me 2x......nah...it might get me +2 - 4dB ...I doubled my money and increased measurable factors by less than 5%

 

Fostex 900's will never sound 3 times better than Ultrasone 900's. 

Then it's comparable. Those Ultrasones are not going to sound 10 times better than those JVCs you have now. In my opinion, this hobby isn't about trying to get the best bang for your buck. If you're after the best bang for buck, you take a look at the headphone forums and end up with one of the usual suspects or a FOTM, then you EQ it to your preferences and happily never return to head-fi.

post #9057 of 11100
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 

You're leaving out personal preferences out of the mix that is a vital aspect in this hobby. Not everyone likes the heavily exaggerated V-shape response of Pro900. I personally want "^--" (bumped bass but even mid and highs presence) then I don't think it would be a prob finding TH900 3x better than Pro900, maybe even 4-5x in my case. :)

No matter how great the bass response is, if the midrange is too pushed behind then I will end up selling/returning a headphone.

 

This is the Basshead thread. The part I highlighted is insanity. 1x = 100% better. You think Fostex could be 4-500% better? That's fanboy lunacy. Again this is the Basshead thread..I heard both and the Ultrasone sounded great...maybe expensive but great. Fostex was not as good and priced 300% more. Insanity. Get an EQ. Learn to tune.

 

Pull the midrange up. You read my part about 1's and 0's? The data is there. You can tune the phones. You wanna spend 3 times as much instead of spending 4 hours of your life getting your pair just right? I dunno what to say to you.

 

So...I'll not say anything. Luckily I gotta work now (Japan time 3:30pm...kids classes :) )

post #9058 of 11100

I know. I'd like the Ultrasones as a nice never leave the house set that can play Pink floyd or the Beastie Boys. They can. I tried :)

Honestly unless a defect is unexposed in these cans the JVC's will not fail. They are absolute BEASTS that should be in every basshead's collection. The more I check including here the more I realize the 55's paper cup sound and the 77's thumptasticness is not only my observation...how JVC added 20 bucks and gave so much more is beyond me???

post #9059 of 11100

http://www.head-fi.org/t/705298/perfect-sound-d901-dido-vs-fostex-th600-vs-final-audio-pandora-vi-need-help-choosing-priorities-listed-inside

 

Hey guys if anyone can help me I need help choosing a basshead headphone. You can click the link above if you have heard any of those to offer an opinion... thanks a lot!

post #9060 of 11100
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

This is the Basshead thread. The part I highlighted is insanity. 1x = 100% better. You think Fostex could be 4-500% better? That's fanboy lunacy. Again this is the Basshead thread..I heard both and the Ultrasone sounded great...maybe expensive but great. Fostex was not as good and priced 300% more. Insanity. Get an EQ. Learn to tune.

 

Pull the midrange up. You read my part about 1's and 0's? The data is there. You can tune the phones. You wanna spend 3 times as much instead of spending 4 hours of your life getting your pair just right? I dunno what to say to you.

 

So...I'll not say anything. Luckily I gotta work now (Japan time 3:30pm...kids classes :) )

Even though this is a basshead thread, it doesnt mean that users dont want to hear the rest of the sound spectrum also in defined clarity. Different strokes for different folks. Music is a very personal preference. What is 5x better to you might not be the same to someone else and vice versa. Just get what makes you happy. 

 

I will give you a good tip though and try to go to one of the HeadFI meets or festival to listen to different headphones and amp configurations. You might be pleasantly surprised to what you find.


Edited by Swolern - 2/11/14 at 11:32pm
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