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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post
 

Yeah, I have the XB-910's and they're supposed to be the same headphones as the X10's. I like them a lot, and the bass is pretty epic. Also, I know what you mean by not being able to listen to other headphones in the same light.

 

That being said, the UE6000's are very good bass headphones and better than the XB's in terms of overall sound quality. I'm really torn between the D2000 vs UE6000; they both have their trade-offs and strengths, and I have a hard time prioritizing any of them. The D2000 are more "open", but also "slow", or something -- they don't really fit fast paced music all that well imo. I also have the Denon D400*, C300 and C400 on the way as well as the Sony XB90ex's. It's going to be a fun time trying to sort all of them out in an understandable manner. I will however keep you guys updated on my impressions.

 

* I know some people on head-fi are putting out very negative words on these, but I'm fairly skeptical that those words are exactly "unbiased" -- the mob mentality around these forums is quite out of hand at times with all kinds of exaggerations and yeah, well, you know that silly story... As a result I've stopped listening to most head-fiers about headphones, but that's another story for another thread.


Are you referring to the Logitech UE6000?! I would have never thought of a Logitech being good for music as I though they were more like gaming stuff but good to know. And the price is great too. I would love to hear your opinion about them compared to the 910 to get an idea of how they compare to the X10s. 
Yeah its fairly easy to tell the fanboy/elitist comments based on ZERO experience with the product vs the honest opinions around here so I am doing the same thing these days..just when looking for recommendations. :)

Good luck and keep up posted! :)

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Originally Posted by shaolin95 View Post
 


Are you referring to the Logitech UE6000?! I would have never thought of a Logitech being good for music as I though they were more like gaming stuff but good to know.


Logitech bought out Ultimate Ears a few years back (hence the UE).


Edited by caprimulgus - 1/30/14 at 4:48pm
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Has anyone else heard the Shure 1540's? I bought a pair and they are definitely basshead cans in my mind. The low end on them is really amazing, especially if you bump up the bass on them. EDM, Metal, anything that has a nice low end to is sounds amazing with them. I'm listening to a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900's I just purchased from the classifieds and the low end feels very similar to the Shure 1540's, but the mids are way more prominent on the 1540's. They compliment each other very well I think.

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Originally Posted by caprimulgus View Post
 


Logitech bought out Ultimate Ears a few years back (hence the UE).


That makes sense. Good to know.

BTW, form the review I have read, many of them commented on the MDR-X10 having a big soundstage. Do you feel that is the case? While I really like them, I dont feel the soundstage is really that big. I know the JVX RX700 seem to me like a bigger soundstage but in that particular case the JVC also feels like the speakers are very far from my ears and give a certain cheapo far away sound that I dont love so far but still the soundstage surely sounds wider to me on the JVC in that regards, just that the sound quality is not on the same level.

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Originally Posted by shaolin95 View Post
 


That makes sense. Good to know.

BTW, form the review I have read, many of them commented on the MDR-X10 having a big soundstage. Do you feel that is the case? While I really like them, I dont feel the soundstage is really that big. I know the JVX RX700 seem to me like a bigger soundstage but in that particular case the JVC also feels like the speakers are very far from my ears and give a certain cheapo far away sound that I dont love so far but still the soundstage surely sounds wider to me on the JVC in that regards, just that the sound quality is not on the same level.

No, I don't think so. The soundstage is relatively small. It is however bigger than that of XB500 for instance, which was from the previous generation. The XB910/X10 makes the sound come from outside my ears, albeit very close, but the XB500 always sounded like the music was from inside my head.

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Originally Posted by greenback View Post

Has anyone else heard the Shure 1540's? I bought a pair and they are definitely basshead cans in my mind. The low end on them is really amazing, especially if you bump up the bass on them. EDM, Metal, anything that has a nice low end to is sounds amazing with them. I'm listening to a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900's I just purchased from the classifieds and the low end feels very similar to the Shure 1540's, but the mids are way more prominent on the 1540's. They compliment each other very well I think.
Ah so you must be the guy who snagged up the pro 900 for $200 before I could get to them, lol. Congrats.

Do the Shure's have the same mid-bass punch as the pro 900s? What about the trebles?
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

No, I don't think so. The soundstage is relatively small. It is however bigger than that of XB500 for instance, which was from the previous generation. The XB910/X10 makes the sound come from outside my ears, albeit very close, but the XB500 always sounded like the music was from inside my head.
That was just the XB-500's bass rattling you brain. smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Swolern View Post

Ah so you must be the guy who snagged up the pro 900 for $200 before I could get to them, lol. Congrats.

Do the Shure's have the same mid-bass punch as the pro 900s? What about the trebles?
That was just the XB-500's bass rattling you brain. smily_headphones1.gif
That's very possible. smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Swolern View Post


Ah so you must be the guy who snagged up the pro 900 for $200 before I could get to them, lol. Congrats.

Do the Shure's have the same mid-bass punch as the pro 900s? What about the trebles?
That was just the XB-500's bass rattling you brain. smily_headphones1.gif

Hah, thanks.

 

The detail is there in both headphones that I can hear. The only difference is presentation and of course that makes all the difference. The Shure's have a much richer sound to them. The Pro900's sound tinny in comparison when switching back and forth. The mid-bass slam is better on the Pro900's but I really enjoy the sub-bass on the Shure 1540's. 

 

Listening to a few songs.

 

Skrillex - Try it out (Neon Mix)

Pro 900:  high and low voices at the start really stand out. the bass is really great. sub-bass and mid-bass both provide lots of satisfying pressure on my ears.

Shure 1540: Vocals are really forward, the bass has moved back, but you can still feel the sub-bass, more than with the Pro900's but maybe that is due to the mid-bass being so apparent with the Pro's. The headphone.com frequency graph shows a bump for the Shure's for sub bass that is around +15-20db compared to the Pro 900's so I would expect that.

Conclusion: It would depend on my mood which headphone I prefer. The clarity and sub-bass on the Shure's is really really nice, but the Pro's have much better slam to them.

 

OceanLab - If I Could Fly

Pro 900: Vocals sound amazing. The bass and vocals stand out more than the rest of the music in the song. 

Shure 1540: Vocals sound about the same as the Pro 900's, clear and up front, you can really hear the detail in the singers voice. but you can hear everything else in the song with what seems equal clarity. The low end is really satisfying but the mid bass doesn't come out like it does on the Pro 900's.

conclusion: I prefer the Shure's for this song. I don't need slam, I want detailed and rich sound, and the bass is still deep and impacts you in a satisfying way, but doesn't slam your ears.

 

Some general comments. I don't find the Pro 900's to be that bass heavy in the sense of the Bass completely overwhelming everything else. I have the HFI-580's and XB800's. The Pro's are better than both. Maybe the XB800's have more thump to them, but it is just like one note and it veils everything else when you are listening to them. The 580's are good and do have less thump to them, so a more balanced sound signature, but the Pro 900's do everything better to my ears. I would still pick the Shure's if I had to choose one all around headphone. But strictly for EDM I would go with the Pro 900's. Not sure I would pay 500 dollars for them though. The Shure's are worth 500, the Pro's I would say are a good buy at 300 if you can find them for that or lower.

 

If you were really into sub-bass then the Shure 1540's might be the better pick in my opinion. You can really EQ that sub bass to rumble your ears and still get more clarity in the mids. For chillout music I would pick the Shure 1540, for Techno, Trance, Dub-Step I would probably pick the Pro 900's if I had to choose one.
 
If I didn't own the Shure's I would be completely happy with the Pro 900's. But having listened to the Shure's for a couple of weeks, the Shure's do everything else but the mid bass slam better to my ears. Not that you do not get equal or similar quality in the highs, but the entire presentation of the mids and highs together with the bass make for a really nice sound. If you are into bass then you have to try out the Pro 900's once in your life, I am definitely happy I purchased them, because they do rock out with EDM, and metal sounds pretty good too.
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Awesome comparison write-up Greenback. Definitely been looking to pick up some Pro 900s also (at a good price), just for the slam.
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post
 

No, I don't think so. The soundstage is relatively small. It is however bigger than that of XB500 for instance, which was from the previous generation. The XB910/X10 makes the sound come from outside my ears, albeit very close, but the XB500 always sounded like the music was from inside my head.

YEs that is how I see it too! Is not that it is a small soundstage, but just not as big as some comments I read about it...then again, I guess it all depends what it was compared to. :)

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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

You would be surprised how much the Alpha pads affected the bass on my D2000. It was a great change, and a drastic one as well.

 

please elaborate =]

and if you can be bothered, a full write up on the changes to sound with the alpha pads would be awesome :D

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please elaborate =]

and if you can be bothered, a full write up on the changes to sound with the alpha pads would be awesome :D

Yikes, I think the full write up may be better written by someone with more to compare it to or that has better patience for writing. Anyway, the bass impact is increased a lot, it seems like the sound stage is a little wider because the mids are pushed back a little bit, and the bass is a little in front of them now. I think applying the Alpha Pads is something a basshead would want to do. I like my bass, so I like the change. I don't know what affect they would bring to people who's headphones have the FULL Lawton mod done to their phones, as that tames the bass. I only have the dynamat and the stock foam ring in mine. In less words, it's made my D2000's more V shaped sounding.


Edited by PETEREK - 1/31/14 at 6:45am
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fair enough. how did you feel the pad swap effected the sub bass?

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post
 

 

fair enough. how did you feel the pad swap effected the sub bass?

 

If they didn't fit as tightly as they do now (which I like) it would vibrate on my head. I use a Fiio E12 with the bass boost on though, so your experience could be more or less than that depending on what you use. I say, get the Alphas if you're using my description as a basis of whether or not you should.

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Can you do me a favor adamlr and measure the diameter of your DT770 cups without a pad on? I am looking to buy another pair of DTxx0's and am curious if the stockers from my D2000's or Alphas would fit them. This could help you as well if you are debating on buying some Alphas.

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