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AIAIAI

TMA-1 

TMA-1 Studio 
Audeze
LCD-2
LCD-3
 
Audio-Technica
ES7
ES700

ES10

PRO500MK2
PRO700
PRO700MK2 - YES
WS55 Solid Bass 
WS77 Solid Bass
WS99 Solid Bass

 

The only downside I see to this is that if nobody votes for a particular headphone when it actually is a basshead headphone, then it'll get accidentally marked off. Maybe we should put in a negative vote or something, and if it gets to like -3 or something, it's marked off. Just a thought. If it's at zero, and nobody voted for it, maybe it should go to an "untested" category. 

post #8177 of 11259
A problem I see is that some crave quality over quantity and vice versa.

Maybe we should have QUANTITY, QUALITY, and then nothing if it simply isnt basshead.
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Lets try to keep it simple. We just want a basic basshead list, and adding more stuff right now will just make it a big mess. For now, we should focus on what headphones actually qualify to be on the basshead list. Afterwards, we can throw in some more details.

post #8179 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

Klipsch Image One should be on the warm list.  UE6000 is definitely basshead caliber.


IMO, the toughest on the list to classify is the PSB M4U1/2/NAD HP50 (not on yet).

The PSBs are not basshead headphones at all... Had the 1s, too weak on the low end, especially the sub bass.
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post

Maybe everyone should quote the same list and add their votes to the list by writing their username and listening experience in parentheses. 

I can see that...
post #8180 of 11259
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post


The PSBs are not basshead headphones at all... Had the 1s, too weak on the low end, especially the sub bass.
I can see that...

Hmm good idea indeed 

post #8181 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

 

The only downside I see to this is that if nobody votes for a particular headphone when it actually is a basshead headphone, then it'll get accidentally marked off. Maybe we should put in a negative vote or something, and if it gets to like -3 or something, it's marked off. Just a thought. If it's at zero, and nobody voted for it, maybe it should go to an "untested" category. 


+1 

 

How about three voting categories, yes, no, and n/a or something, to separate the ones people haven't heard and don't get votes from the ones people disapprove of.

post #8182 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post
 

The only downside I see to this is that if nobody votes for a particular headphone when it actually is a basshead headphone, then it'll get accidentally marked off. Maybe we should put in a negative vote or something, and if it gets to like -3 or something, it's marked off. Just a thought. If it's at zero, and nobody voted for it, maybe it should go to an "untested" category. 

 

Yeah, good idea. What we can do is - Once we have obtained a list of voted-in cans, the remaining cans that were not included will be run through a second round of voting. We can then vote NO or ABSTAIN. This way, we can definitively remove cans that are certainly not bassy, whilst keeping cans on a "Probable" list. What do you think?

 

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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

A problem I see is that some crave quality over quantity and vice versa.

Maybe we should have QUANTITY, QUALITY, and then nothing if it simply isnt basshead.

 

Yeah, I agree. But certainly, if it's quality, cans like the HD25-1 II and even the M50 may be voted in. Then we might be back to square one.

 

Maybe the criteria to be considered a basshead can can be defined as -

 

1) Sufficient bass quantity (greater than HD 25-1 II / M50)

2) Above average bass quality (excluding cans like Beats Solo)

 

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Originally Posted by Trae View Post
 

Lets try to keep it simple. We just want a basic basshead list, and adding more stuff right now will just make it a big mess. For now, we should focus on what headphones actually qualify to be on the basshead list. Afterwards, we can throw in some more details.

 

Yup. Let's finally work on having a list all bassheads can agree on. Then, we can certainly point new posters to a definitive list that we have voted for as a community. :smile:

 

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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

 

How about three voting categories, yes, no, and n/a or something, to separate the ones people haven't heard and don't get votes from the ones people disapprove of.

 

Yup, this is similar to Trae's idea. We can certainly filter/vote on cans that miss the first round of voting.

 

Keep the votes coming, guys!

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My UE 6000 is here... finding it hard to review as I don't have anything to compare it with q.q the W1000x is too much for it, and the DT 880 is open >.> and my D2k isn't here either... 

 

That said... it's not a bad headphone. Much better than what I remember of the Koss Pro DJ 100 [MUCH] 

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long time lurker, first time poster...thought i'd be safe in the basshead club! :)

 

i listen mainly to hip-hop (plus a little bit of grime, "EDM", rock and 70s/80s/90s/modern pop).

 

firstly: i'm looking for a super-basshead (quantity) can for home use - something fun for blasting hip-hop! Q40? Crossfade LP/LP2? XB500?

 

from reading all the threads, seems like Q40 is probably the pick of the bunch? but lp/lp2/xb500 have more bass impact? a better option for hip-hop?

 

or, skip them all and hold out for a pair of D2000/D5000? seems like they would probably be the best sounding overall, but might not have the super bass i'm after...probably the "one-after-next" purchase... :)

 

secondly: given what i already have (listed below), does that change the answer? ie. while Q40 (or D2000) might be the "better" option in and of themselves, would something like lp/lp2/xb500 be more different or covering different use to what i already have?

 

from reading the threads, i'm leaning more towards Q40, but i don't want to be left feeling i'm missing out on the punch to the head of the lp/lp2/xb500 and end up purchasing them as well! if the Q40 are not significantly more bassy/different than the M100, maybe i should skip them and get some REAL bass cannons (lp/lp2/xb500) and/or save for the D2000/D5000.

 

what i have:

headphones: (previously owned HD-25-II), DT-770 PRO80, UE6000, M100 (on the way) - looking for something with more bass quantity.
IEMs: Super.fi 5EB, IE80, XBA3 - (my ideal IEM would be something between IE80 and XBA3)
earbuds: MX980
amps: ZO2 (2.3, i believe), e17
sources: rockboxed clip zip, ipod touch (with LOD to e17), HTPC using the e17 as DAC

 

any advice appreciated!


Edited by caprimulgus - 11/18/13 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by caprimulgus View Post
 

long time lurker, first time poster...thought i'd be safe in the basshead club! :)

 

i listen mainly to hip-hop (plus a little bit of grime, "EDM", rock and 70s/80s/90s/modern pop).

 

firstly: i'm looking for a super-basshead (quantity) can for home use - something fun for blasting hip-hop! Q40? Crossfade LP/LP2? XB500?

 

from reading all the threads, seems like Q40 is probably the pick of the bunch? but lp/lp2/xb500 have more bass impact? a better option for hip-hop?

 

or, skip them all and hold out for a pair of D2000/D5000? seems like they would probably be the best sounding overall, but might not have the super bass i'm after...probably the "one-after-next" purchase... :)

 

secondly: given what i already have (listed below), does that change the answer? ie. while Q40 (or D2000) might be the "better" option in and of themselves, would something like lp/lp2/xb500 be more different or covering different use to what i already have?

 

from reading the threads, i'm leaning more towards Q40, but i don't want to be left feeling i'm missing out on the punch to the head of the lp/lp2/xb500 and end up purchasing them as well! if the Q40 are not significantly more bassy/different than the M100, maybe i should skip them and get some REAL bass cannons (lp/lp2/xb500) and/or save for the D2000/D5000.

 

what i have:

headphones: (previously owned HD-25-II), DT-770 PRO80, UE6000, M100 (on the way) - looking for something with more bass quantity.
IEMs: Super.fi 5EB, IE80, XBA3 - (my ideal IEM would be something between IE80 and XBA3)
earbuds: MX980
amps: ZO2 (2.3, i believe), e17
sources: rockboxed clip zip, ipod touch (with LOD to e17), HTPC using the e17 as DAC

 

any advice appreciated!

For home use and the sound you want in that price range, you definitely want to hear the NuForce HP-800.

post #8186 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post
 

For home use and the sound you want in that price range, you definitely want to hear the NuForce HP-800.

 

ah yeah, have seen them mentioned, but haven't looked into them in detail. will have a read. cheers!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by caprimulgus View Post
 

long time lurker, first time poster...thought i'd be safe in the basshead club! :)

 

i listen mainly to hip-hop (plus a little bit of grime, "EDM", rock and 70s/80s/90s/modern pop).

 

firstly: i'm looking for a super-basshead (quantity) can for home use - something fun for blasting hip-hop! Q40? Crossfade LP/LP2? XB500?

 

from reading all the threads, seems like Q40 is probably the pick of the bunch? but lp/lp2/xb500 have more bass impact? a better option for hip-hop?

 

or, skip them all and hold out for a pair of D2000/D5000? seems like they would probably be the best sounding overall, but might not have the super bass i'm after...probably the "one-after-next" purchase... :)

 

secondly: given what i already have (listed below), does that change the answer? ie. while Q40 (or D2000) might be the "better" option in and of themselves, would something like lp/lp2/xb500 be more different or covering different use to what i already have?

 

from reading the threads, i'm leaning more towards Q40, but i don't want to be left feeling i'm missing out on the punch to the head of the lp/lp2/xb500 and end up purchasing them as well! if the Q40 are not significantly more bassy/different than the M100, maybe i should skip them and get some REAL bass cannons (lp/lp2/xb500) and/or save for the D2000/D5000.

 

what i have:

headphones: (previously owned HD-25-II), DT-770 PRO80, UE6000, M100 (on the way) - looking for something with more bass quantity.
IEMs: Super.fi 5EB, IE80, XBA3 - (my ideal IEM would be something between IE80 and XBA3)
earbuds: MX980
amps: ZO2 (2.3, i believe), e17
sources: rockboxed clip zip, ipod touch (with LOD to e17), HTPC using the e17 as DAC

 

any advice appreciated!

Yea I too noticed the UE 6000... isn't... really all that bassy? Compared to the Shure 840 and Sound Magic HP 100 I suppose it is, but the ATH A900x had a little more kick to it... and the W1000x well... I won't go there :/ 

 

The UE 6000 is how ever, a nice darker laid back headphone imo, the bass is also a little one note, not a lot of texture and detail in there...  With a little EQ yea they have a nice hit to them but... again the almost one note nature of the bass... that said. Hell for $89 I'd say they are pretty great! All things considered! Also I have the Active Noise Cancelling off 

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I've got XB500, and have briefly owned the LP2, the Q40 is a bit lesser in bass quantity but while both XB500 and LP2 sounds very bloated in bass like they'd be clouded in bass, the Q40 nearly hits with the same impact, great punch but a lot more textured in the bass than those before mentioned headphones. Let's say Q40 has bass where it needs to be to get a nice impact while XB500/LP2 sounds like having excess of it, doesn't add a lot to the impact but more covering the other range of the headphones. 

Still a happy ZO2.1 + Q40 owner of about 2 years of use and wondering whichever config will be able to satisfy me more. :) Do note for me personally ZO2.1 is big part of the magic, I do have ZO2.3 as well but the ZO2.1 just pairs so much better with Q40 and making it very balanced in the mids & highs (it tickens up the midrange slightly and very gently smoothens out the highs) and with ZO2.3 it has a very slight V-shape sound to it, for me the mids lack that nice full-bodiness I get when using v2.1. I'm a never recovering basshead but I also care about the mids & highs as an enthusiast. Hard to get good balance of everything when you crave such a seriously boosted bass amount but Q40 + ZO2.1 gives me that. :) Of course it will also depend on what source is used, Q40 is so far the most picky headphone I've used regarding what source and amp it's paired with, it really changes sound signature very easily depending on the equipment and it's not a cheap vs expensive thing...

To give you an idea.... 

SoundBlaster ZxR + ZO2.1 + Q40 = Pretty bad, too warm, overly smooth, somewhat muddy bass

SoundBlaster ZxR + ZO2.3 + Q40 = Pretty good, good tonality (= realistic mids/highs balance), great detail in mids/vocals, slight lack of "extreme punchiness" in the bass I love

Realtek ALC1150 with onboard TI NE5532 amps + ZO2.3 + Q40 = So-so, overly analytical, bright, slight V-shape, slightly lacking punch in the bass for my taste and that fullbodied up-front midrange I like

Realtek ALC1150 with onboard TI NE5532 amps + ZO2.1 + Q40 = AWESOME, extremely life-like tonality, good midrange presence, very tight & punchy and strong bass that remains well textured, both very detailed and natural sounding despite the big bump in bass (versus much expensier headphones mostly lacking airiness and soundstaging which are Q40's weaknesses).

 

With the last setup it handles everything from bassy EDM music to female vocal performances like Celine Dion or whatever really nicely and while I mostly listen to EDM I also listen to calm, relaxing ballads, some pop, some rock and occasionally orchestra (game music), even some newgen jazz & rap xD. The bass on my setup never gets in the way when listening to music where the bass shouldn't be in the focus, when I listen to female vocal focused music, they sound like being in the focus, when listening to bass-driven EDM music, the bass is in the focus etc, just like I want it to be like.

 

So yea my setup is the last one...


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/18/13 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

The UE 6000 is how ever, a nice darker laid back headphone imo, the bass is also a little one note, not a lot of texture and detail in there...  With a little EQ yea they have a nice hit to them but... again the almost one note nature of the bass... that said. Hell for $89 I'd say they are pretty great! All things considered! Also I have the Active Noise Cancelling off 

 

yeah, while i haven't done a back to back comparison really, i find the UE6000 don't extend as low or have as much texture in the bass as my DT770. but, for the (discounted) price i'm pretty happy with them. will probably be replaced by the M100 as my main portable, but will keep them as a secondary option. ideally what i really want is the UE9000 (for the wireless use case), but we haven't seen the same discounting on the UE9000 in Australia as in the US recently. will definitely pick up a pair for $200 if i can!

 

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


Still a happy ZO2.1 + Q40 owner of about 2 years of use and wondering whichever config will be able to satisfy me more. :)

 

yeah, long time reader of your posts! :)

 

you always keep me coming back to the Q40's everytime i buy or read about new headphones..."that RPGWiZaRD and his bloody Q40+ZO2.1 - if nothing else satisfies him, what am i missing out on!?" aha. :)

 

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 


SoundBlaster ZxR + ZO2.1 + Q40 = Pretty bad, too warm, overly smooth, somewhat muddy bass

SoundBlaster ZxR + ZO2.3 + Q40 = Pretty good, good tonality (= realistic mids/highs balance), great detail in mids/vocals, slight lack of "extreme punchiness" in the bass I love

Realtek ALC1150 with onboard TI NE5532 amps + ZO2.3 + Q40 = So-so, overly analytical, bright, slight V-shape, slightly lacking punch in the bass for my taste and that fullbodied up-front midrange I like

Realtek ALC1150 with onboard TI NE5532 amps + ZO2.1 + Q40 = AWESOME, extremely life-like tonality, good midrange presence, very tight & punchy and strong bass that remains well textured, both very detailed and natural sounding despite the big bump in bass (versus much expensier headphones mostly lacking airiness and soundstaging which are Q40's weaknesses).

 

you haven't tried them with e17 to the ZO2s by any chance? my HTPC doesn't currently have a soundcard in it, so am using the e17 as DAC with headphones atm.


Edited by caprimulgus - 11/18/13 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by caprimulgus View Post
 

 

yeah, while i haven't done a back to back comparison really, i find the UE6000 don't extend as low or have as much texture in the bass as my DT770. but, for the (discounted) price i'm pretty happy with them. will probably be replaced by the M100 as my main portable, but will keep them as a secondary option. ideally what i really want is the UE9000 (for the wireless use case), but we haven't seen the same discounting on the UE9000 in Australia as in the US recently. will definitely pick up a pair for $200 if i can!

 

 

yeah, long time reader of your posts! :)

 

you always keep me coming back to the Q40's everytime i buy or read about new headphones..."that RPGWiZaRD and his bloody Q40+ZO2.1 - if nothing else satisfies him, what am i missing out on!?" aha. :)

Yea it doesn't extend to low and lacks a little texture... but I paid $89 for it so :O bargin 

 

Ok let me just chime this in... with the Active Noise Cancelling Off, the UE 6000 is pretty balanced but honestly it PALES im comparision to headphones like the Sound Magic Hp 100 and Shure 840 and even the ATH A900x kicks it around

 

Throw that "Active Noise Cancelling" Circuit to on and DAMN. These get really BASS Heavy! I seriously wish I owned a pair back in the day

 

So IF YOU WANT THE UE 6000 BASS you need to turn the Noise Cancelling on, and I didn't find it to really isolate any better... everything just got louder and a TON MORE bassier. That said the physical specs show it has like +7 db SPL with the ANC on. That said the UE 6000 is BASS HEAD APPROVED and for the $89 I paid for it... well let's just say I wish I could keep it xD 

 

That said I'm going to enjoy these for the little bit of time I have them! 

 

Also honestly... these imo, have a much nicer sound stage and sense of imaging with the Active noise cancelling on! With it off everything sounds muffled and closed in, quiete literally I flip a swtich and the headphones sonically open! 

 

So that said, for $130... yea I am REALLY liking these. Are they as nice and balanced as my W1000x... NOPE but with the ACN on the are starting to sound like a $200 Closed Headphone! 


Edited by Mshenay - 11/18/13 at 1:52pm
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