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i'm looking to replace my old xb500. listen to mostly rap, hiphop, house, etc. bass is the most important thing for me, as long as sound quality is average-above average. budget around 60 on amazon.

numark red wave?
sony xb600?
sony v55?
jvc harx900?
audio technica ath-m30?

Pioneer STEEZ 808 SE-MJ751I?



Anyone???
post #7037 of 11259
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Anyone???

hmm don't the Creative Aura Live headphones get that cheap some times ;O

 

Still I'm not too in touch with those lower end brands [soon enough I might be] although there is nothing with MORE mid bass than the Xb 500, For around $40 US the Porta Pros are a steal imo. They are semi open and... very vintage. But I enjoyed the sound of them, despite almost breaking them xD 

post #7038 of 11259
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Anyone???

Can't offer input on the ones you listed but since you have now asked twice I'll reply for you.

For $60 maybe the JVC HA-S500 is the most Bassy phone for the money. Panasonic RTF-600 (may have the model number wrong) is decent as well. I'd suggest you save a little more, get near $100 and consider a Q-40 from M-Audio. Or find a XB500 used on the for sale boards. The CAL is pretty good as well for around $60 used. I have one I'll be posting for sale soon.

Not sure what else in that range. Hope this helps.
post #7039 of 11259
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Can't offer input on the ones you listed but since you have now asked twice I'll reply for you.

For $60 maybe the JVC HA-S500 is the most Bassy phone for the money. Panasonic RTF-600 (may have the model number wrong) is decent as well. I'd suggest you save a little more, get near $100 and consider a Q-40 from M-Audio. Or find a XB500 used on the for sale boards. The CAL is pretty good as well for around $60 used. I have one I'll be posting for sale soon.

Not sure what else in that range. Hope this helps.

Well he has an Xb500 already I think, but I'm totally for the CAL. Plus if your going to be selling one, it would b a great way for him to start getting feed back here, and working his way to the better bass head cans! As I'm sure the Cal has better treble and Mids than the Xb 500 <3. 

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Can't offer input on the ones you listed but since you have now asked twice I'll reply for you.

For $60 maybe the JVC HA-S500 is the most Bassy phone for the money. Panasonic RTF-600 (may have the model number wrong) is decent as well. I'd suggest you save a little more, get near $100 and consider a Q-40 from M-Audio. Or find a XB500 used on the for sale boards. The CAL is pretty good as well for around $60 used. I have one I'll be posting for sale soon.

Not sure what else in that range. Hope this helps.

if you're suggesting the jvc ha-s500, why not the harx900 (supposedly higher end)?

 

is the q-40 really worth doubling my budget (it's 128 on amazon right now)? thanks for replying. edit: its 108 on the m-audio site.... strange

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Well he has an Xb500 already I think, but I'm totally for the CAL. Plus if your going to be selling one, it would b a great way for him to start getting feed back here, and working his way to the better bass head cans! As I'm sure the Cal has better treble and Mids than the Xb 500 <3. 

i had the xb500, gave them away to a friend. looking for a replacement with similar or slightly more refined bass but better sq overall


Edited by bassplz - 8/4/13 at 9:53pm
post #7041 of 11259
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Anyone???

I bought quite a few basshead headphone in the $60 price range and these are 3 of my favorite for rap/hiphop.

1. JVC S500, best overall sound quality. You will need an amp if you want a crap load of bass.

2. Pioneer HDJ500, Great bass both in quality and quantity. This is better than the steez 808.

3. AKG K518, Lots of bass, especially when amped.

 

The CAL! just barely made the cut as a basshead can for me, I found it lacking in the bass department when used for rap/hiphop.


Edited by RoMee - 8/4/13 at 10:13pm
post #7042 of 11259
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Originally Posted by bassplz View Post

if you're suggesting the jvc ha-s500, why not the harx900 (supposedly higher end)?

is the q-40 really worth doubling my budget (it's 128 on amazon right now)? thanks for replying. edit: its 108 on the m-audio site.... strange
i had the xb500, gave them away to a friend. looking for a replacement with similar or slightly more refined bass but better sq overall

I didn't suggest the HARX-900 simply because I've never heard it. I try not to comment on cans I don't have first hand experience with. That said I forgot I had a HARX-700 that had pretty good bass and was definitely better than XB500.

Yes, to me the Q-40 is well worth it. Full disclosure - after you buy it, you save a little more money and swap pads out. You can go with Shure 840's pads for $12 ish but the truth is you will likely want to swap the stock ones. I have Alpha pads on my Q-40 and I feel it sounds as good or close to some of my higher end cans (see signsture).

Most of what we have suggested are a clear improvement in quality over the XB500, which I also had. They are fun when you get into the hobby but after hearing some better phones you'll realize how low quality they really are. Just my opinion.
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Hmm a Q40 with Alpha Pads, now that's pretty cool! 

post #7044 of 11259
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Hmm a Q40 with Alpha Pads, now that's pretty cool! 


Comfort is amazing as is the sound...................not cheap but worth it to me. 

post #7045 of 11259

Remember many have reported that the Alpha Pads make the headphones more V sound/ the mids more recessed

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Remember many have reported that the Alpha Pads make the headphones more V sound/ the mids more recessed


That's probably fair to say, and some of us like the "improvement".  basshead.gif

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Don't underestimate the power of good earpads. If set up correctly, they can really improve sonic reproduction, and improve the transition of sound from the driver to your ears. Earpads that seal well, that are somewhat thick, that are constructed well, and pads that are properly installed on the headphones (no gaps present anywhere) is preferred.

 

I found out that putting cotton underneath the earpads tends to absorb the midrange frequencies a bit, causing it to sound somewhat recessed. The better seal you have around your ears, the more bass impact you will have. In other words, the seal with your head to the earpads is deciding factor in how much bass quantity you will have, and how well it will scale at loud volumes. You can have two different earpads that have roughly equal amounts of observable bass quantity at low/medium volume levels, but the earpad that has the greater seal around your ears will preserve the quality of the lower frequencies at greater volume levels. The side with the worse seal will sound kinda flabby (like having the headphones away from your ears), while the other side with the greater seal will probably sound cleaner in the lower frequencies.

 

I also found out that earpads that are rounded on the bottom (most of the earpads out there), and have little holes underneath for the cotton to breath can also absorb some of the sound (earpads like this). Earpads that are more angled and near the base, like these or these are, will give the sound produced by the driver a more unobstructed path to your ears. That's just my experience. 

post #7048 of 11259

Hey guys

 

I'm pretty noob to this audio-scene and I just recently purchase a set of Atrio M8's. The stock ear tips fit horribly and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to buy these tips from Ebay?

 

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Westone-TRUE-FIT-Green-Replacement-Earbuds-Foam-Eartips-Ear-Tips-10-Pack-5-Pairs-/360689265828?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item53fac16ca4&_uhb=1

 

 

 

Or are there better alternatives that you guys know about? It would be awesome if you guys can share it with me.

 

Thanks in advance!

post #7049 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

Don't underestimate the power of good earpads. If set up correctly, they can really improve sonic reproduction, and improve the transition of sound from the driver to your ears. Earpads that seal well, that are somewhat thick, that are constructed well, and pads that are properly installed on the headphones (no gaps present anywhere) is preferred.

 

I found out that putting cotton underneath the earpads tends to absorb the midrange frequencies a bit, causing it to sound somewhat recessed. The better seal you have around your ears, the more bass impact you will have. In other words, the seal with your head to the earpads is deciding factor in how much bass quantity you will have, and how well it will scale at loud volumes. You can have two different earpads that have roughly equal amounts of observable bass quantity at low/medium volume levels, but the earpad that has the greater seal around your ears will preserve the quality of the lower frequencies at greater volume levels. The side with the worse seal will sound kinda flabby (like having the headphones away from your ears), while the other side with the greater seal will probably sound cleaner in the lower frequencies.

 

I also found out that earpads that are rounded on the bottom (most of the earpads out there), and have little holes underneath for the cotton to breath can also absorb some of the sound (earpads like this). Earpads that are more angled and near the base, like these or these are, will give the sound produced by the driver a more unobstructed path to your ears. That's just my experience. 

 

Yea, earpads and modifications to them can sound quite different. I have 2 Q40's here atm but going to sell the 2nd one because I didn't like that it was stretched out and the left side driver moves around a little bit too much in there causing a bit noise when doing so.

 

But if I compare my pair of Q40 vs the other one with the only difference being the earpads being modded to be deeper on my pair with a very thin layer of paper towel insert (well mine has also been used for like 2 years so burn in would be more broken-in but the other one also has been used though but not that much) and I push slightly on the one that has slightly looser clamp to rule that possibility out and they sound highly different, like a substantial amount. I still think the cheapest and easiest mod one can do to improve the sound of stock Q40 is adding a thin layer of something underneath the pads covering also up some of the bottom holes. Then I can't say for sure if covering up the holes or adding depth - whichever does affect the sound more - probably both as I know the distance to the driver do quite a difference with other headphones too.

 

But doing this mod it has better clarity, original, unmodded it has tiny bit of "smeariness" in the sound, the highs doesn't come shine through ideally and overall midrange is slightly too blurry (nothing substantial but comparing to the modded one it becomes clear).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 8/6/13 at 3:12am
post #7050 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

Don't underestimate the power of good earpads. If set up correctly, they can really improve sonic reproduction, and improve the transition of sound from the driver to your ears. Earpads that seal well, that are somewhat thick, that are constructed well, and pads that are properly installed on the headphones (no gaps present anywhere) is preferred.

I found out that putting cotton underneath the earpads tends to absorb the midrange frequencies a bit, causing it to sound somewhat recessed. The better seal you have around your ears, the more bass impact you will have. In other words, the seal with your head to the earpads is deciding factor in how much bass quantity you will have, and how well it will scale at loud volumes. You can have two different earpads that have roughly equal amounts of observable bass quantity at low/medium volume levels, but the earpad that has the greater seal around your ears will preserve the quality of the lower frequencies at greater volume levels. The side with the worse seal will sound kinda flabby (like having the headphones away from your ears), while the other side with the greater seal will probably sound cleaner in the lower frequencies.

I also found out that earpads that are rounded on the bottom (most of the earpads out there), and have little holes underneath for the cotton to breath can also absorb some of the sound (earpads like this). Earpads that are more angled and near the base, like these or these are, will give the sound produced by the driver a more unobstructed path to your ears. That's just my experience. 

Good input.

I tried over ten pad combos on the Q40 with mixed, yet clear and definitely differing results. Learned a lot and so glad I tried the Alpha pads. I'm done modding it.

The Alpha pads also sound great on my D2000 and Pro900. Good pads Mr Speaker is making.
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