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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


Coming from someone who has a D2000, HAD a DT770, and also has a D600, both Denons trump the Beyer TO ME. The D2000 forget about if you want portable, but the D600, tho a radical departure from the early Fostex-built phones, is still TO ME a great can and I paid $239 refurb price. Worth every penny. Plenty of highs and mids regardless of what the graphs show.

If you like bright treble, maybe an Ultrasone Pro900 is your style. They too are great for bassheads as well, great for portable use and I found them for $236.

 

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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Lol i have a similar problem as him, except i am looking for an amp upgrade with a quality bass boost, as the fiio e11 just makes things muddy.

 

i only have like a 150$ budget, and i cant find the jds labs one used (unless you could link me to one ... pretty please :3)

 

Thanks :)

The E11 makes things muddy because ur boosting upwards of 10db's of bass.... that's kinda to be expected. It's a pretty clean amp and trust me most BIG bass Boost are going to sound like mud.

 

Granted there might be some out there I've not heard that keep things tight but, within time hopefully you'll start to apprecaite an enjoy milder bass boosts and tighter bass cans

 

Also on a sad note I ave to sell my Dt 880s, on a positive note I can EQ my 990s so sound like my 880s [I kinda hate eq but I hate not having a house even more] Which just goes to show the versitility of the 990, granted it doesn't have the thickness of the 880s bottom end [which is very tight, but still has some UMPH in it] But I can use a tube to get that.

 

Still I highly recommended the dt 990s for any bass head, with a little eq there's SO much you can do with them! 

post #6332 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

 

The E11 makes things muddy because ur boosting upwards of 10db's of bass.... that's kinda to be expected. It's a pretty clean amp and trust me most BIG bass Boost are going to sound like mud.

 

Granted there might be some out there I've not heard that keep things tight but, within time hopefully you'll start to apprecaite an enjoy milder bass boosts and tighter bass cans

 

Also on a sad note I ave to sell my Dt 880s, on a positive note I can EQ my 990s so sound like my 880s [I kinda hate eq but I hate not having a house even more] Which just goes to show the versitility of the 990, granted it doesn't have the thickness of the 880s bottom end [which is very tight, but still has some UMPH in it] But I can use a tube to get that.

 

Still I highly recommended the dt 990s for any bass head, with a little eq there's SO much you can do with them! 

1. e11 boosts up to 6 dB, so unless youre talking about the added "boost" from the cans themselves, im afraid youre wrong.

2. while not a fan of hardware bass boost, i find that bb'ing with eq can create an unlimited amount of bass, that remains just as tight as your headphones were originally. granted, the bigger the boost, the more it will bleed into the mids and takeover the rest of the frequencies (masking effect), but i wouldnt say it muddys it up.

3. i have said this many times: hardware bass boosts tend to boost alot more than just the bass. fiio boosts are a good example. the only bb amp i know of that boosts almost just the bass is the ZO, boosting 300 Hz and lower. e11 boost starts at ~1kHz and lower, altering the sound rather significantly.

4. sorry to hear about the 880s =\ im sure one day youll re-buy it, together with an added T1 aswell =]

 

cheers

post #6333 of 11259
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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

1. e11 boosts up to 6 dB, so unless youre talking about the added "boost" from the cans themselves, im afraid youre wrong.

2. while not a fan of hardware bass boost, i find that bb'ing with eq can create an unlimited amount of bass, that remains just as tight as your headphones were originally. granted, the bigger the boost, the more it will bleed into the mids and takeover the rest of the frequencies (masking effect), but i wouldnt say it muddys it up.

3. i have said this many times: hardware bass boosts tend to boost alot more than just the bass. fiio boosts are a good example. the only bb amp i know of that boosts almost just the bass is the ZO, boosting 300 Hz and lower. e11 boost starts at ~1kHz and lower, altering the sound rather significantly.

4. sorry to hear about the 880s =\ im sure one day youll re-buy it, together with an added T1 aswell =]

 

cheers

I could have sworn the boost was upwards of 10.... maybe I'm thinking of my cMoy BB, and yea good point but as you mentioned bleeding occurs, and for me I find that even my w1000x and my 990s [both of which are very tight and well seperated] too much bass makes them sound very empty and muddy... that's just my taste though. I'm speaking purely subjective hear

 

and yea I'll get the dt 880 600ohm next <3, then I might grab the T1 xD 

 

Sadly though even with eq the 990 misses the fullness in the lower mids of an 880, even my w1000x didn't have the... thick PUSH of the 880s lower mids, it was a nice and unexpected discovery [my Matrix M Stage with a gain of 10db granted these thicker lower mids] it might have been noise from the amp but either way it sounded good on those cans so I went with it xD 

post #6334 of 11259
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Originally Posted by jjcoolaus View Post

 

OK, thanks. The Denon's are 100 grams heavier than the DT770, and only 3 grams heavier than the PSB M4U2's (which I have).

 

I'm wondering how the Dennon D1100s compare in terms of how much room your ears have inside the cups. (obviously the sound will be different, I get that).

 

In Australia, the D600's are $450-475 at various online stores, plus delivery.

The D1100's on the other hand are $150-180 with free shipping at several stores.

 

Has anybody who finds the V-Moda's a bit small for their ears/heads/glasses also tried the D1100's (not asking for much, am I? LOL)


I own the D1100 and comfort was never an issue. But the earcups are different than the D2k and D5k. So no comparisons can really be made between those.

 

I can say that the cups on the D1100 are very comfortable, and unless your ears are unusually large, they should fit comfortably inside the earcup.

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Well the e12 looks like a pretty nice upgrade in my opinion, im just hoping that it wont to too little of a bass boost this time.

 

It would also be nice if it only increased the sub bass (as adamlr was sayinG) which it seems it might be able to do, if not by much.

post #6336 of 11259
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Lol i have a similar problem as him, except i am looking for an amp upgrade with a quality bass boost, as the fiio e11 just makes things muddy.

 

i only have like a 150$ budget, and i cant find the jds labs one used (unless you could link me to one ... pretty please :3)

 

Thanks :)


http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=70 is the current model, the C5 as Craigster noted.  The C421 is only available used now but I see them on the for sale boards regularly.  I got mine there for $100.

post #6337 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=70 is the current model, the C5 as Craigster noted.  The C421 is only available used now but I see them on the for sale boards regularly.  I got mine there for $100.

I will admit I wanted the c421 my self, I'd go for the ad8620 opamp as opposed to the 22xx verision, the ad8620 is cleaner so it should be the cleanest bass option 

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


I've done the progression from E6 to E7 to E11, and then went for a JDS Labs C421 and C&C BK - and both the non-FiiO amps are in my opinion a whole new level.  For around $100 you can get either (used in the case of the C421). 

I will look into these guys. Thanks for your input.

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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

H
Have you ever thought about upgrading your cans? I'm not sure if you are a full-on basshead or seek sound quality. If you seek better sound quality you can upgrade your headphone as it is the most important part of your setup. But don't worry about robbing a bank, there's tons of options in various price range. Just my opinion

 

Yes, I would LOVE a pair of M100s and obviously the Sig DJs. Unfortunately, My bank account is not baller status. As for right now I have the LP2s, TMA1s and JVC FXZ 200s. I would have to sell off a few in order to get something else. As of right now the LP2s are also doubling as my main DJ headphones and the JVCs are my go to phones for when I need to be super portable.

 

The only thing I may be able to do is Sell both the LP2s and the TMA1s to help fund the M100s. Unfortunately the LP2s and TMA1s have a horrible resale value. I think I would be Lucky to net $175 for both of them.

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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Lol i have a similar problem as him, except i am looking for an amp upgrade with a quality bass boost, as the fiio e11 just makes things muddy.

 

i only have like a 150$ budget, and i cant find the jds labs one used (unless you could link me to one ... pretty please :3)

 

Thanks :)


I Actually have about the same budget.

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

I could have sworn the boost was upwards of 10.... maybe I'm thinking of my cMoy BB, and yea good point but as you mentioned bleeding occurs, and for me I find that even my w1000x and my 990s [both of which are very tight and well seperated] too much bass makes them sound very empty and muddy... that's just my taste though. I'm speaking purely subjective hear

 

and yea I'll get the dt 880 600ohm next <3, then I might grab the T1 xD 

 

Sadly though even with eq the 990 misses the fullness in the lower mids of an 880, even my w1000x didn't have the... thick PUSH of the 880s lower mids, it was a nice and unexpected discovery [my Matrix M Stage with a gain of 10db granted these thicker lower mids] it might have been noise from the amp but either way it sounded good on those cans so I went with it xD 

 

well the jds labs cmoy boosts ~10 dB, perhaps thats what you had in mind? however, the jds cmoy also starts its boost at ~1kHz. i dont know, i just dont like the lack of control of these hardware boosts. i guess ive become addicted to software equalization =]

 

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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Well the e12 looks like a pretty nice upgrade in my opinion, im just hoping that it wont to too little of a bass boost this time.

 

It would also be nice if it only increased the sub bass (as adamlr was sayinG) which it seems it might be able to do, if not by much.


what was i saying? tongue_smile.gif

 

if there was an amp that boosted sub-bass, and was relatively affordable, id go for it. but i have yet to see one. the jds labs C5's bass boost is centered around 80Hz, but the boost also starts at ~1kHz, so i dont know... i dont think that quite counts. the e12 has 2 versions of bb btw, and i wont pretend to know anything about them...

 

all in all, software eq is just superior imho. allows for complete control and ultimate flexibility. what more could one want? even with poweramp graphic eq on my phone i feel more comfortable than with any hardware eq...

post #6340 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

I will admit I wanted the c421 my self, I'd go for the ad8620 opamp as opposed to the 22xx verision, the ad8620 is cleaner so it should be the cleanest bass option 

That's the op amp I got, by good fortune. I like it.
post #6341 of 11259
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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

well the jds labs cmoy boosts ~10 dB, perhaps thats what you had in mind? however, the jds cmoy also starts its boost at ~1kHz. i dont know, i just dont like the lack of control of these hardware boosts. i guess ive become addicted to software equalization =]



what was i saying? tongue_smile.gif

if there was an amp that boosted sub-bass, and was relatively affordable, id go for it. but i have yet to see one. the jds labs C5's bass boost is centered around 80Hz, but the boost also starts at ~1kHz, so i dont know... i dont think that quite counts. the e12 has 2 versions of bb btw, and i wont pretend to know anything about them...

all in all, software eq is just superior imho. allows for complete control and ultimate flexibility. what more could one want? even with poweramp graphic eq on my phone i feel more comfortable than with any hardware eq...

There is an amp that boosts SUBbass - called the Digizoid ZO. Very useful little thumper. I liked the first one so much I bought two more.
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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

 

well the jds labs cmoy boosts ~10 dB, perhaps thats what you had in mind? however, the jds cmoy also starts its boost at ~1kHz. i dont know, i just dont like the lack of control of these hardware boosts. i guess ive become addicted to software equalization =]

 


what was i saying? tongue_smile.gif

 

if there was an amp that boosted sub-bass, and was relatively affordable, id go for it. but i have yet to see one. the jds labs C5's bass boost is centered around 80Hz, but the boost also starts at ~1kHz, so i dont know... i dont think that quite counts. the e12 has 2 versions of bb btw, and i wont pretend to know anything about them...

 

all in all, software eq is just superior imho. allows for complete control and ultimate flexibility. what more could one want? even with poweramp graphic eq on my phone i feel more comfortable than with any hardware eq...

See I'm the oppisite. Hard Ware eq's have always had more Power in them than a Software, the software just doesn't have the KICK that different levels of HardWare, but then again... I've started to like hard ware eq less and less...  because I well am apprecating the more modest kick if the tighter software eq xD

post #6343 of 11259
@MS1605

I have yet to try the M Audio Q40 but a couple of posts back it was talked about a lot. I'm assuming here it is better than your lp2? Nvr heard the lp2 but the M100 has serious thump and its also really a great can for the price!
post #6344 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

@MS1605

I have yet to try the M Audio Q40 but a couple of posts back it was talked about a lot. I'm assuming here it is better than your lp2? Nvr heard the lp2 but the M100 has serious thump and its also really a great can for the price!

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/newestpost/275459

Lots of great info and input about the Q-40 here. Great low budget headphone that thump. I love them.
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


http://www.head-fi.org/forum/newestpost/275459

Lots of great info and input about the Q-40 here. Great low budget headphone that thump. I love them.

 

Since you own the LPs, why not guide him what to upgrade to? I think one of the most logical upgrades would be the M100 but it seems that he currently does not have the budget to do so, thus I suggested the M-Audio Q40 which can be had for cheaper! 

 

Btw, Oregonian, have you ever tried the M100? It's a pretty good can! 

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