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post #6211 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

The crushers have a vibrator instead of an actual subwoofer driver. So, it's actually the 40mm (or is it 30mm?) driver that's producing the frequency range, while that excuse for a subwoofer just vibrates the headphone instead of delivering pure SPL bass. The JVC cans are the real deal when it comes to actually having four drivers in the headphone, hence the reason why they cost around $300. 
And weigh over 400 grams.
post #6212 of 11259
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

And weigh over 400 grams.

That's pretty heavy.
post #6213 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

That's pretty heavy.
I know... frown.gif
post #6214 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Luv My BASS 1 View Post

Best basshead over-ear around $300 that is NOT the M100? I'm trying to explore alternatives. cool.gif

Have you tried the Q-40 yet?

I just bought the Denon D600 a couple of weeks ago for $239, way undervalued phone that I personally love and does everything well in addition to the bass. You can still regularly find used Denon D2000 on the for sale boards, and yes, I bought one of them too, for $300, and they are great bass phones. So for your $300 number, plenty of good choices abound.

Do you not like V-Moda M-100's?

No personal experience but I've read about the Ultrasone Pro 900 which is around $300.

Pure bass monsters - the AT Pro700MK2, the Sony XB series, someone on the Q40 thread talked up the UE6000 from Logitech, and on and on.

We need mo recent experiences from the Thumper Club members. All of us.
post #6215 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Have you tried the Q-40 yet?

I just bought the Denon D600 a couple of weeks ago for $239, way undervalued phone that I personally love and does everything well in addition to the bass. You can still regularly find used Denon D2000 on the for sale boards, and yes, I bought one of them too, for $300, and they are great bass phones. So for your $300 number, plenty of good choices abound.

Do you not like V-Moda M-100's?

No personal experience but I've read about the Ultrasone Pro 900 which is around $300.

Pure bass monsters - the AT Pro700MK2, the Sony XB series, someone on the Q40 thread talked up the UE6000 from Logitech, and on and on.

We need mo recent experiences from the Thumper Club members. All of us.

The q40 keep coming up, but I'm worried that they won't sound as good as the m80s that I'm upgrading from. Ultrasone Pro 900 is a no go due to shrill treble. I don't necesarially hate the m100, I just want to consider all the other phones out there before I buy one of the most hyped headphones of all time.

On another note, anyone heard of the Kenwood KH-K1000? They look like they have comfort for day, and might be just the thing I'm looking for, if not slightly out of price range.
post #6216 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Luv My BASS 1 View Post

The q40 keep coming up, but I'm worried that they won't sound as good as the m80s that I'm upgrading from. Ultrasone Pro 900 is a no go due to shrill treble. I don't necesarially hate the m100, I just want to consider all the other phones out there before I buy one of the most hyped headphones of all time.

On another note, anyone heard of the Kenwood KH-K1000? They look like they have comfort for day, and might be just the thing I'm looking for, if not slightly out of price range.

I guess you are lookin for an upgrade. First an foremost, r u looking for subbass or midbass.

Subbass: Denon D2/5/7k
Midbass: V-Moda M100 (though I think it also can handle subbass.)

Anybody wants to add on?

[Edit: Btw, it is not a new product type of hype. It has been out for a while and if the hype still goes on it proves it is genuinely a good can. Like the ATH-M50s which is another ongoing hype that has never ended.
Why not u just go out and try those cans instead of asking and disagreeing.
Edited by myap2328 - 5/3/13 at 8:22pm
post #6217 of 11259
@ Basshead Club OP.
Add the JVC S600s
just auditioned them and they had more then enough bass for a basshead.
post #6218 of 11259

Well, my boredom got the best of me. I've decided to start a little headphone rating project. I just finished rating all of my headphones. If you guys are interested, just send me some numbers so I can punch them in. We could probably integrate this into the headphone list somehow (cropping the respective graphs and placing them in spoilers for the respective headphones). Just one thing that I'm wary of: everyone perceives sound differently, and everyone uses different sources and setups, so it's going to be kinda hard to have a perfectly flat playing field. 

 

Key (Click to show)

Sub-Bass Quantity: 1-10, quantity of sub-bass in respect to the midbass and midrange, higher is more

Mid-Bass Quantity: 1-10, quantity of midbass in respect to sub-bass and midrange, higher is more

Bass Quality: 1-10, quality of separation of low frequencies from the rest of the frequency spectrum, higher is better

Comfort: 1-10, higher is better

Build Quality: 1-10, higher is better

Imaging: 1-10, higher the number, easier it is to notice where sounds are coming from 

Separation: 1-10, higher the number, more black the background is and more room sounds have to "breathe"

Attack/Speed: 1-10, higher the number, the quicker the transducer is when fast, complex songs are played

Signature: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively warm, below is progressively cold

Dynamics: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively transparent and clear, below is progressively veiled and compressed sounding

Midrange Tonality: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively forward midrange, below is progressively recessed midrange

Treble Tonality: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively bright treble, below is progressively dark treble

Soundstage Width: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively wider left/right soundstage characteristics, below is progressively boxed in, in the head soundstage

Soundstage Depth: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively farther in front/behind soundstage characteristics, below is progressively in your face kind of soundstage

Pic (open link in new tab) (Click to show)

 

 

The GBH-1000 Open is the Pro700MKII with the drivers modified to be open and put in the AD900 enclosure with beyer gel pads+cotton (GBH= giga basshead...)

The GBH-1000 Closed is the Pro700MKII with beyer gel pads+cotton

The AD900MKII is the AD900 with beyer gel pads+cotton

The AD2000MKII is the AD2000 drivers in the AD900 enclosure (basically the exact same as the AD2000 enclosure, but with a Y headphone cable, a different grill, and different top wires) with beyer gel pads+cottonMaybe if this gets big, we can do this kind of thing for all headphones.

 

Maybe if this gets big, we can do this for all headphones, and even amps. If not, then it's fine by me. I just did this so if/when I forget what my headphones sound like, and/or when I'm comparing different headphones, I can refer to it. 


Edited by Trae - 5/3/13 at 11:00pm
post #6219 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

Well, my boredom got the best of me. I've decided to start a little headphone rating project. I just finished rating all of my headphones. If you guys are interested, just send me some numbers so I can punch them in. We could probably integrate this into the headphone list somehow (cropping the respective graphs and placing them in spoilers for the respective headphones). Just one thing that I'm wary of: everyone perceives sound differently, and everyone uses different sources and setups, so it's going to be kinda hard to have a perfectly flat playing field. 

 

Key (Click to show)

Sub-Bass Quantity: 1-10, quantity of sub-bass in respect to the midbass and midrange, higher is more

Mid-Bass Quantity: 1-10, quantity of midbass in respect to sub-bass and midrange, higher is more

Bass Quality: 1-10, quality of separation of low frequencies from the rest of the frequency spectrum, higher is better

Comfort: 1-10, higher is better

Build Quality: 1-10, higher is better

Imaging: 1-10, higher the number, easier it is to notice where sounds are coming from 

Separation: 1-10, higher the number, more black the background is and more room sounds have to "breathe"

Attack/Speed: 1-10, higher the number, the quicker the transducer is when fast, complex songs are played

Signature: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively warm, below is progressively cold

Dynamics: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively transparent and clear, below is progressively veiled and compressed sounding

Midrange Tonality: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively forward midrange, below is progressively recessed midrange

Treble Tonality: +/- 5, 0 is neutral, above is progressively bright treble, below is progressively dark treble

Soundstage Width: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively wider left/right soundstage characteristics, below is progressively boxed in, in the head soundstage

Soundstage Depth: +/- 5, 0 is average, above is progressively farther in front/behind soundstage characteristics, below is progressively in your face kind of soundstage

Pic (open link in new tab) (Click to show)

 

 

The GBH-1000 Open is the Pro700MKII with the drivers modified to be open and put in the AD900 enclosure with beyer gel pads+cotton (GBH= giga basshead...)

The GBH-1000 Closed is the Pro700MKII with beyer gel pads+cotton

The AD900MKII is the AD900 with beyer gel pads+cotton

The AD2000MKII is the AD2000 drivers in the AD900 enclosure (basically the exact same as the AD2000 enclosure, but with a Y headphone cable, a different grill, and different top wires) with beyer gel pads+cottonMaybe if this gets big, we can do this kind of thing for all headphones.

 

Maybe if this gets big, we can do this for all headphones, and even amps. If not, then it's fine by me. I just did this so if/when I forget what my headphones sound like, and/or when I'm comparing different headphones, I can refer to it. 

 

Hey, good job, bro! I like the idea, and we can always have differing opinions on one headphone contributed by a few members. Still, I think it's a bit tough to get things going forward, but it's a nice first step. If others are interested, we could organize the charting and review of the headphones in the Basshead Club list. smile.gif

post #6220 of 11259

I've just got my hands on JVC's new Xtreme Xplosives cans!

 

 

 

 

All 3 produce loads of bass, and can really rattle the skull when amped. Out of the box, they sound quite similar to the original models (M5X, S4X), but more playing time will tell. The bigger brother (MR77X) does bring a bit more treble extension and detail to the whole picture, but it's just basically a "MORE BASS" experience. I'm going to have loads of fun listening with them. cool.gif

post #6221 of 11259
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I've just got my hands on JVC's new Xtreme Xplosives cans!


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All 3 produce loads of bass, and can really rattle the skull when amped. Out of the box, they sound quite similar to the original models (M5X, S4X), but more playing time will tell. The bigger brother (MR77X) does bring a bit more treble extension and detail to the whole picture, but it's just basically a "MORE BASS" experience. I'm going to have loads of fun listening with them. cool.gif

You got lots of headphones....
post #6222 of 11259
Heya Trae,
I'd add a comfort factor into your graphs, also, how do you make those graphs?
Very best,
post #6223 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

 

All 3 produce loads of bass, and can really rattle the skull when amped. Out of the box, they sound quite similar to the original models (M5X, S4X), but more playing time will tell. The bigger brother (MR77X) does bring a bit more treble extension and detail to the whole picture, but it's just basically a "MORE BASS" experience. I'm going to have loads of fun listening with them. cool.gif

 

So I guess they all three sounds pretty bad then. :P M5X was really horrible.

post #6224 of 11259
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Originally Posted by gopanthersgo1 View Post

Heya Trae,
I'd add a comfort factor into your graphs, also, how do you make those graphs?
Very best,

 

Well, I don't know what you mean, since I do have a comfort thing on there (1-10, with better comfort having a progressively higher number). I made the graphs in Microsoft Excel 2013. I separated the two radar graphs into two categories, one that will rate the qualities of the headphone on a scale of 1 to 10 and the other one doing the tonality and whatnot on a scale of -5 to +5. I made my own little templates for each one, so I can just highlight the corresponding values, insert->radar graph->load template, give the graph a title, repeat for the next set of values (with its corresponding graph template),

and done.

 

Totally off topic, but I just finished watching Life of Pi. Awesome movie. If you don't cry a bit watching that movie, then you're not human.

post #6225 of 11259
That's true.
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