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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

One thing I've noticed right away is how nice the imaging is with these. They sound like an open can. The instruments and in particular the vocals are positioned perfectly in my head. Makes the HE500s sound positively distant in comparison. I've been so focused on the mids and highs (that was my biggest worry) that I never mentioned the Bass! It's just what you'd expect from Ultrasone. Big, deep, tight, and punchy.

 

The best Bass texture I've ever heard in a headphone comes from my HE500s. These are not that far behind. You can hear all the layers and textures, and THAT is not something you can say for too many headphones. It's one of my holy grails for Bass and this one does it better than any "Basshead" Can I've ever had, and I've had a few... If you (like me) are thinking this is anything like the Pro 900, I can tell you it's not. They are so different, if not for the Bass, you could think it was from a different company. Even the form factor is very different. The 900s are a lot heavier for one thing and while the Bass is similar, I wouldn't say it's exactly the same. These seem to extend down a little further and have a bit more Sub Bass in comparison. Mids and highs on these are very refined. Detailed without being harsh and nary a trace of sibilance. I'm actually surprised by how good the mids and highs sound, and I think they got the balance just right straight from the Factory. I have not felt the need to EQ these at all. The Tonal balance is, as far as I'm concerned, perfect. They nailed it. Which is nice, because I prefer not to use EQ if at all possible. . 

 

Anyway, it's still early, but so far they sound great and Im happier and more relieved by the hour. It will be worth a thousand bucks just to finally be happy. These are better than I dared hope to be honest. It's been a long search with a lot of disappointments along the way. I was preparing myself to not be "thrilled", but so far they are surpassing my expectations. Really looking forward to giving them a thorough test. 

 

Glad you're really enjoying them. Seems like this is one of the few cans at the summit of the basshead headphone club.

 

Anyway, you say that they are quite different from the PRO 900. I love my PRO 900s, but it's got a strong treble presence that is results in a somewhat sibilant sound. In comparison, are the Signature DJs more balanced, but with an equally strong bass presentation? I think that's something that's intriguing, as I feel the PRO 900 with an attenuated treble is actually a very good headphone for bassheads.

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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Hearing all these posts are getting me excited about my audition time with these cans (sig DJ) tomorrow with the sig pro. How do these sound straight out of an iPhone 4S and does an amp improve them by a lot?

 

Hey bro, where are you auditioning the Signature DJ at?

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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

Hey bro, where are you auditioning the Signature DJ at?

The Ultrasone Distributor at 60 Marsiling Road. LoL. Here's the HP of the guy I contacted, 82685229. I'm going down at 930 am 2mr, feel free to join me if you're free.
post #5554 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Hey guys wondering if it's possible to amp bass quantity up without ruining the rest of the sq?

 

equalization. best thing ive discovered on this forum. 

 

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Originally Posted by Tsujigiri View Post


I think what you're referring to is equalization. I don't really use it, but the people who do say that the best way to improve the bass is to turn down the other frequencies, rather than turn down the bass.


either you reduce other frequencies (not bass) and turn the volume up, or boost the bass and turn the digital volume ("pre amp") down by a subsequent amount. i prefer the first, but its a matter of preference, the end result is the same.

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glad you like am and I'm SO GLAD to hear there is subtle S Logic, as I've always bleived that tech was crappy. Good to see it's NOT on thier flag ship! 

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

glad you like am and I'm SO GLAD to hear there is subtle S Logic, as I've always bleived that tech was crappy. Good to see it's NOT on thier flag ship! 

It's very subtle and the  headphone's position on your head is not critical with these either. Moving them around on your head doesn't change the sound at all. Just slap 'em on and go. 

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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

 

Glad you're really enjoying them. Seems like this is one of the few cans at the summit of the basshead headphone club.

 

Anyway, you say that they are quite different from the PRO 900. I love my PRO 900s, but it's got a strong treble presence that is results in a somewhat sibilant sound. In comparison, are the Signature DJs more balanced, but with an equally strong bass presentation? I think that's something that's intriguing, as I feel the PRO 900 with an attenuated treble is actually a very good headphone for bassheads.

I sold my Pro 900s a while back and I've regretted my decision ever since. In fact, the reason I ended up in this thread was because I was looking for something just like them, but with smoother highs. That led me to the Q40s which led me to these. The Bass isn't exactly the same as the Pro 900s but it's similar with regard to impact. These have a little more Sub Bass than than the Pro 900s, due I'm sure, in part to the larger drivers (50mm vs. 40mm in 900s).but the mids and highs are in a completely different league. All of the problems with the 900s have been addressed and the soundstage is even wider and deeper. You can crank these up to crazy volume levels with no distortion or ear bleed. If you love the Pro 900s you will love these even more. 

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Bareyb, which amp are you driving these with?  

Grace m903. It was recommended by Stereophile as a good match and so far I agree. Very happy with how they play together. smile.gif

 

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Edited by bareyb - 3/21/13 at 1:31pm
post #5559 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Hearing all these posts are getting me excited about my audition time with these cans (sig DJ) tomorrow with the sig pro. How do these sound straight out of an iPhone 4S and does an amp improve them by a lot?

Good luck! Can't wait to hear your impressions. Do you already own the Signature Pros or are you auditioning both?  


Edited by bareyb - 3/21/13 at 1:41pm
post #5560 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

 

Glad you're really enjoying them. Seems like this is one of the few cans at the summit of the basshead headphone club.

 

Anyway, you say that they are quite different from the PRO 900. I love my PRO 900s, but it's got a strong treble presence that is results in a somewhat sibilant sound. In comparison, are the Signature DJs more balanced, but with an equally strong bass presentation? I think that's something that's intriguing, as I feel the PRO 900 with an attenuated treble is actually a very good headphone for bassheads.


I can answer yes from my experience.  Highs are tame compared to the PRO 900 and perfectly balanced with the bass.

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Hi fellows basshead clubbers, I'm taking a step to join you!

I've bought a Sony MDR-XB600 and a Fostex T50rp (my, by reading this thread I guess that whenever I'll try modding them I shall go for Thunderpants?). Did test the first one, was confident about the second one and I can't wait for them to be at home. Nothing like Ultrasone Signature DJ, for sure, but still my pleasure. smily_headphones1.gif

I need to ask : a lot of you seem to be double amping one amp with ZO, how do you proceed? What does it brings to your sound? Instead of using only one I mean. I have deep interest in Audinst AMP-HP and Digizoid ZO2.3, I'll probably take both. How would those perform if I was double amping sound with them? You need to put the ZO in last position before headphones?

Sort of "best of two worlds" is what I'm interested in.
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Originally Posted by Vanarian View Post

Hi fellows basshead clubbers, I'm taking a step to join you!

I've bought a Sony MDR-XB600 and a Fostex T50rp (my, by reading this thread I guess that whenever I'll try modding them I shall go for Thunderpants?). Did test the first one, was confident about the second one and I can't wait for them to be at home. Nothing like Ultrasone Signature DJ, for sure, but still my pleasure. smily_headphones1.gif

I need to ask : a lot of you seem to be double amping one amp with ZO, how do you proceed? What does it brings to your sound? Instead of using only one I mean. I have deep interest in Audinst AMP-HP and Digizoid ZO2.3, I'll probably take both. How would those perform if I was double amping sound with them? You need to put the ZO in last position before headphones?

Sort of "best of two worlds" is what I'm interested in.
I'm selling my ZO2.3 for $80 shipped... wink.gif
post #5563 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Vanarian View Post

Hi fellows basshead clubbers, I'm taking a step to join you!

I've bought a Sony MDR-XB600 and a Fostex T50rp (my, by reading this thread I guess that whenever I'll try modding them I shall go for Thunderpants?). Did test the first one, was confident about the second one and I can't wait for them to be at home. Nothing like Ultrasone Signature DJ, for sure, but still my pleasure. smily_headphones1.gif

I need to ask : a lot of you seem to be double amping one amp with ZO, how do you proceed? What does it brings to your sound? Instead of using only one I mean. I have deep interest in Audinst AMP-HP and Digizoid ZO2.3, I'll probably take both. How would those perform if I was double amping sound with them? You need to put the ZO in last position before headphones?

Sort of "best of two worlds" is what I'm interested in.

 

I have been running a double amp combo since I think Craigster wrote about it a while back.  I had been running it like this - 

 

Source (iPhone 4 or 5) out via Fiio LOD into my E-11 on high gain, then out of that into the ZO, set on high gain (critical point) and on highest RED contour (highest bass output), and from there into the phones (in my case usually Q-40's. The E-11 is the volume control.  

 

Now however, I just got a Schiit Magni and even though it is a great amp it needs the extra bass only a basshead can understand so THAT takes the place of the E-11.  It sounds even better than the E-11, as it should.  

 

What I found the double amping adds is better overall depth of sound, bass at low volume levels (almost like a loudness switch has been set), and obviously max bass at all volumes.   

 

The purists have criticized me/us for this, but really, it's about individual preference and what works for YOU.  I could care less what they say.   I love the sound.  


Edited by Oregonian - 3/21/13 at 5:51pm
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Lol why is the Amperior on Malevolent's list of basshead cans? Not talking down on 'em, cus they're great, just not basshead quality imo

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Out of curiosity, would the HE-400 be considered a bass head headphone? I've been wondering if those would be good for my first home rig.
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