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Originally Posted by Docks View Post

Yeah, that spike between 3-4khz will definitely make it feel a bit more bright. The ears are quite sensitive around this freq too. 

I wonder if that was a result of the final tuning. They may have spiked it up a bit to compensate for all that Bass in hopes the overall signature would be more flat. I noticed the Q40 while flatter on the high end ended up sounding a little bit too dark for me on certain songs. I was actually EQ'ing them up a little on the highs, so maybe that means the Ultrasone will be about right for me. 

post #5507 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Te spike at 8-10khz are kinda worrying. You can call me over sensitive because I gotta feeling i like dark cans.

The Q40s have a similar spike and I can tell you for a fact, those are not a bright headphone. Quite the opposite. So it's possible the designers are building those spikes in intentionally in order to compensate for the huge Bass these cans provide, to give them a more flat response overall. 

 

 

I noticed the Pro 900 has the same Spike but it starts earlier. 


Edited by bareyb - 3/17/13 at 7:07pm
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Ooh looks nice, wish i could try em, although the 990 amped is great i thank
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The Q40s seem to dip around 3-4khz.

Lots of headphones dip in that area (on purpose) to prevent fatigue. Some people still get fatigue from the beyers because of the sharp rise after the dip. The rise is a bit too early on the freq spectrum IMO, but still a decent can. (Heck I have the 80ohm ver).

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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

The Q40s have a similar spike and I can tell you for a fact, those are not a bright headphone. Quite the opposite. So it's possible the designers are building those spikes in intentionally in order to compensate for the huge Bass these cans provide, to give them a more flat response overall. 






I noticed the Pro 900 has the same Spike but it starts earlier. 


I am not sure but I find the denon d5000 to have a fatiguing treble so I maybe more sensitive than most ppl, but apparently I see ppl complain abt the d5ks treble so I guess I'm not alone.
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I've heard the Denon D2000 and thought they were decent, but yeah I agree it's a bit fatiguing too.

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Originally Posted by Docks View Post

The Q40s seem to dip around 3-4khz.

Lots of headphones dip in that area (on purpose) to prevent fatigue. Some people still get fatigue from the beyers because of the sharp rise after the dip. The rise is a bit too early on the freq spectrum IMO, but still a decent can. (Heck I have the 80ohm ver).

Look at the Bass curve on the Sonys! Wow.  blink.gif

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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Look at the Bass curve on the Sonys! Wow.  blink.gif

Yeah heh, look at how much they bleed into the mids. The XB700s clean this bass bleed up but the treble peaks a bit earlier. This could be bothersome, still tempted to buy a pair of XB700 for the hell of it.

 


Edited by Docks - 3/17/13 at 11:34pm
post #5514 of 11259
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

I'm hoping a bit 'brighter" than the Q40 though? 


Yes, no worries.

post #5515 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Docks View Post

The Q40s seem to dip around 3-4khz.

Lots of headphones dip in that area (on purpose) to prevent fatigue. Some people still get fatigue from the beyers because of the sharp rise after the dip. The rise is a bit too early on the freq spectrum IMO, but still a decent can. (Heck I have the 80ohm ver).


i have the 250 ohm version, and i do find them quite fatiguing. ive ordered a pair of m-100s in the hopes these will be less fatiguing, as eqing the treble down on the 770s doesnt seem to work for me, and i still get fatigued after an hour or two... i dont think spikes in a particular area are the cause of fatigue, rather, any spike in the frequency response - atleast in the treble area. i have noticed a very large spike at ~7KHz with my 770s. having said that, when i eq the spike away, i get less fatigued, but eventually i will have to take them off regardless, because my ears hurt. perhaps if i were a more experienced equalizer... 

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

 

Explain what this "bass shaker" thing is plz. 

Basically - it's called a tactile transducer in the HT world. Here's an example: http://www.amazon.com/Clark-Synthesis-TST209-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B002IFEGNC

 

You need the transducer and an amp. Your chair just sits on top of the transducer (or attaches somewhere) - and the result is the perception of physical bass in your body - which is what I consider the missing piece with headphones.

post #5517 of 11259
I auditioned many cans today and shortlisted the Denon D5K and Senn HD650. The Hd650 is much clearer and have a better soundstage (I think)compared to the d5k. but it is kinda lacking in midbass. I face the same prob with the lcd2. Would the d7k solve the prob, I may even jump to the th-900 if it's that good.
post #5518 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

I auditioned many cans today and shortlisted the Denon D5K and Senn HD650. The Hd650 is much clearer and have a better soundstage (I think)compared to the d5k. but it is kinda lacking in midbass. I face the same prob with the lcd2. Would the d7k solve the prob, I may even jump to the th-900 if it's that good.

The D5000 has more bass than D7000, the D7000 will not give you that punch you are looking for. The TH900 look interesting.

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Yes, no worries.

You'd be so proud of me. I posted our little "Top 5" list and  I think I may have sold another set. Where do we get our commissions? tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

You'd be so proud of me. I posted our little "Top 5" list and  I think I may have sold another set. Where do we get our commissions? tongue.gif


Good luck finding someone at Ultrasone to ask.  I can't even get a response from their "customer service" department.

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