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I wonder if Sony is ever going to make an XB1100. I think their 70mm driver has a lot of potential if they optimize it some more. 

 

Yup, I agree. The XB1000 was so much wasted potential. It came out sounding like the weakest in the "Extra Bass" line. Imagine if Sony re-tuned them to be even bassier out of the box, with a slightly more V-Shaped sound with better extension in the highs. I think they would sound great!

 

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Maloc
Where did you get them???

 

I got them at Sony Centre (2nd floor) at Sim Lim Square. All the major Sony stores were out of stock (Bugis, Wisma). I was quite fortunate to find a place that actually sold them.

 

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Nice how does the 900 compare to the 700. I still love my amped eqd 700. N my dt 990 is epic with my RCA clear top 12ua7

 

Out of the box, and from memory, the XB700 has more bass than the XB900. Still, I will definitely need to take out my XB700 to have a good comparison between the 2. I might even do a shootout between all of my XB cans - XB200 to XB1000. That would be fun for a basshead! smile.gif

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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

Yup, I agree. The XB1000 was so much wasted potential. It came out sounding like the weakest in the "Extra Bass" line. Imagine if Sony re-tuned them to be even bassier out of the box, with a slightly more V-Shaped sound with better extension in the highs. I think they would sound great!


I got them at Sony Centre (2nd floor) at Sim Lim Square. All the major Sony stores were out of stock (Bugis, Wisma). I was quite fortunate to find a place that actually sold them.


Out of the box, and from memory, the XB700 has more bass than the XB900. Still, I will definitely need to take out my XB700 to have a good comparison between the 2. I might even do a shootout between all of my XB cans - XB200 to XB1000. That would be fun for a basshead! smile.gif

That would be really cool! Looking forward to it!
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Stumbled across this thread which is great because I love "Good sound" but I also am a sucker for bass.

ZO2.3 ordered.

 

I will be dual amping along with my C&C BH amp primarily and my Sennheiser Momentums. I also have W4`s and an P3+ amp soo multiple configurations to play with.

Will post pics when it arrives.

This could be fun, bright(led`s) and deafening. :-)

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Stumbled across this thread which is great because I love "Good sound" but I also am a sucker for bass.

ZO2.3 ordered.

 

I will be dual amping along with my C&C BH amp primarily and my Sennheiser Momentums. I also have W4`s and an P3+ amp soo multiple configurations to play with.

Will post pics when it arrives.

This could be fun, bright(led`s) and deafening. :-)

 

Finally some1 who is able to provide feedback on such setup... be sure to use the lower gain setting with BH though xD and yea digiZoid ZO should come last in the chain.

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Can anyone recommend a better amp over the Fiio & zo lines?

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You can take a look at the Schiit Magni. It offers gobs of power for its small form factor and low price point. The downside is that there is no bass switch on it, so you'll have to fiddle around with the eq settings even more in order to get the bass you want. I'm having a hard enough time trying to do that now, but the potential is certainly there, even more so than anything that digizoid or fiio makes. 

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Finally some1 who is able to provide feedback on such setup... be sure to use the lower gain setting with BH though xD and yea digiZoid ZO should come last in the chain.

Any reason for low gain on the BH? I use it with high gain even though there is nothing to play with on the dial. I just like the instant vol change and feel it has more impact than the low. Will try anything and everything when I get the ZO2 though!

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

 

Finally some1 who is able to provide feedback on such setup... be sure to use the lower gain setting with BH though xD and yea digiZoid ZO should come last in the chain.

 

I have been double amping through LOD with E-11 (high gain, no added bass) into ZO (high gain, highest red contour) for a couple months now with no problems.  Love it.

 

I have a Magni on order.  RPG, what do you think about trying my double amping, replacing the E-11 with the Magni?  Still with ZO last in the chain and Magni controlling the volume. 


Edited by Oregonian - 3/3/13 at 10:31am
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Austin meet was fantastic, SoundFreq is a great guy, I loved the TH900s out of his Liquid Fire, and we had a few small conversations, he seemed to enjoy the JVC HA-S500s for a cheap portable Bass Head phone, the M100s looked sexy, and had some REALLY nice bass, a lot more than I expected for what people called neutral, the XB1Ks were GINORMOUS (SoundFreq, I DARE you to wear them in public!), but are super comfy. The TH900s were also a lot lighter than I imagined. SoundFreq is DEFINATELY a bass head, all of his headphones are bassy, along with a tube amp, and any song he has is electronic, trance, DnB, Hip Hop, and some metal!
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Well, finally got my hands on the M100. So I guess now I officially belong in the basshead club. Hopefully I can stay for a while. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

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Has anyone tried the e12 in lui of the 11 along with the Z02? I really want to know how the 12 sounds and the BH.
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hey quick question to clear up my confusion.

 

so the beats studio at $300 is definitely a rip off right? muddy bass, flimsy build quality, and false advertising.

 

...but the yamaha pro 500 is legit right? $400, bass-emphasis, mostly plastic, really original design, and truthful advertising. After all, when I think v-shaped sound signature, I totally think sound that is "so real, so clear, so enveloping" that can "authentically reproduce any style of music." And I can take comfort in the fact that these headphones are "leading choice of professionals for studio and concert gear."

 

Just I am curious why the yamaha pro 500 is considered legit rather than overpriced junk similar to the beats. does it really take $100 to make the bass less muddy? I think some experienced head-fi-ers recommended these to me, and now I am just confused =S

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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

hey quick question to clear up my confusion.

 

so the beats studio at $300 is definitely a rip off right? muddy bass, flimsy build quality, and false advertising.

 

...but the yamaha pro 500 is legit right? $400, bass-emphasis, mostly plastic, really original design, and truthful advertising. After all, when I think v-shaped sound signature, I totally think sound that is "so real, so clear, so enveloping" that can "authentically reproduce any style of music." And I can take comfort in the fact that these headphones are "leading choice of professionals for studio and concert gear."

 

Just I am curious why the yamaha pro 500 is considered legit rather than overpriced junk similar to the beats. does it really take $100 to make the bass less muddy? I think some experienced head-fi-ers recommended these to me, and now I am just confused =S

 

Well Beats are WAY overpriced sound quality wise and build quality isn't the best either but yea sound is the worst part, followed by build quality. The Yamaha PRO 500 are actually very great sounding pair of closed headphones when you check reviews, it may have a mainstream look but it also has a more hifi targeted sound to it. Just because it has a bit of a bass emphasis doesn't make it another Beats headphone, there can be very substantial amount of quality differences even when comparing headphones with about the same amount of bass.

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

 

Well Beats are WAY overpriced sound quality wise and build quality isn't the best either but yea sound is the worst part, followed by build quality. The Yamaha PRO 500 are actually very great sounding pair of closed headphones when you check reviews, it may have a mainstream look but it also has a more hifi targeted sound to it. Just because it has a bit of a bass emphasis doesn't make it another Beats headphone, there can be very substantial amount of quality differences even when comparing headphones with about the same amount of bass.

Mmmm... I guess I still don't understand.

 

From the way I see it the design/build materials/comfort/style is basically the same from Beats to Yamaha (since yamaha basically just copied the Beats). This is actually quite fascinating to me because basically yamaha removed all the other variables except for sound quality by copying the Beats design. 

 

The Beats are OVERpriced at $300, because they have muddy bass/bad sound quality. So that means they should NOT be worth $300? ...So let's say maybe the range is $100-200 for muddy bass headphones? if you think the Beats are overpriced and muddy bass should cost under $150 (since Audio-Technica M50 under $150 is is supposed to have better sound than the Beats)... then Yamaha is charging an extra $250 to remove the mud from the bass...

 

The Yamaha Pro 500 is $400!!!! exact same everything except for the sound quality. So the cost of NOT having muddy bass is $100 more than the overpriced Beats? Legitimately, it costs $100 extra to tune the sound to make it less muddy??? ...and this is considered to be a fair price by audiophiles???

 

isn't the main complaints against Beats that they are overcharging for their sonic qualities?? I don't really see how Yamaha is doing anything differently =S

 

...I think there might already be closed headphones with good bass that are not muddy under $300???


Edited by money4me247 - 3/4/13 at 3:17am
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You are missing the point. It's about relative sound quality performance, how they compare versus other headphones which is the only good measurement of pricing. The hobby itself is very very (I can't find the word I'm looking for atm), "you don't get a lot of additional improvement for price paid" the higher you go in this hobby. Paying $1000 for a headphone is certainly not going to be worth it for any1 else but a headphone enthusiasts because for a mainstream listener the sound quality will probably seem almost the same while a headphone enthusiast finds a bigger difference as what seems like a small improvement for the mainstream guy is a lot bigger for the enthusiast who cares for all the subtle differences.

 

Relatively speaking the Beats Studios compare more like 50~$70 worth sound quality and the PROs maybe around $150 or so but the Yamaha PRO500 seems to offer sound quality worth that of $400 headphone at the very least when you compare to other closed headphones, some users even say it may be among the best closed headphones under $1000 (there doesn't exist that many closed headphones in the 500 - $1000 pricerange though).

 

For you it's a matter of aknowledging the hobby isn't very forgiving in terms of price vs performance. But having said that I also cannot stress enough that personal taste plays a big role, that it may sound like a $400 headphone doesn't mean YOU will have to like it because we all have a bit different ideas how you want it to sound like.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/4/13 at 3:47am
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