The Basshead Club - Page 330

You must love double posting  You can try the graphic equalizer component for f2k. It's much better than the stock equalizer that comes with f2k. That's what I was using before Electri-Q and it works great. Right now, Electri-Q seems like a very accurate equalizer, but the VST plugin is kinda buggy, giving me random crashes when adjusting the curve. It's only happened twice, so It's not that big a deal. 

I think I found the best way to eq the bass:

1. Download the attachment. I did the hard work and exported frequencies 20Hz-100Hz. They all last 20sec. each.

2. Extract the files, put them somewhere, and load them up in Foobar (I'm only doing this eq guide for foobar)

3. Create a new playlist in foobar, and drop the 20-100Hz files in it

4. Highlight the files (Ctrl+A), right click in the highlighted area, click replay gain, click scan per-file track gain. Let it do it's thing and update tags. This step is very important. You HAVE to have replay gain for everything in order to optimize the bass. 

5. Find the volume you're most comfortable listening to and leave it there. This includes the volume control on your amp and in foobar. You could do like me and leave the amp at the same volume, and only adjust the volume in foobar. If you have a bass switch on it, it's up to you if you want to use it or not. 

6. Open up the equalizer of your choice. The Graphic equalizer that I linked above is good, and Electri-Q is good too, but a bit harder to use and install if you don't know how to load VST plugins in foobar. 

7. Use the 20-100Hz files and calibrate the bass so that you have the best balance between quality and quantity. I did mine so that it's somewhat close to the verge of clipping (or when the driver physically distorted). That way, I know that I'm getting the most bass possible at the volume I set it at (that volume you set is now your max volume). There are some songs that I'm able to adjust the volume higher without clipping, but it's good where it's at, and it's much better than what it was before. 

7a. Be careful with frequencies 50Hz onwards. They really rattle your eardrums. With 60Hz, it feels like someone is lightly blowing in my ears when I pull the headphones away from me a few millimeters. Gotta love SPL. I had to put the headphones around my neck and put the driver away from my ears on the frequencies 40Hz and up because my ears started feeling funny. You should still be able to hear any distortions when you have them away from your ears. 

7b. What you're basically doing is calibrating the lower frequencies so that they are as equal as possible in loudness without clipping. This way, on every song you play, you will have the highest amount of clean bass throughout all frequencies. In other words, if you have that problem with some songs that distort at, let's say 40Hz, but 60Hz sounds fine, this method of equalizing will fix that. This is because all of the songs have replay gain on them (89dB on all songs-every song has equal loudness), and the eq is optimized to bring out every inch of bass possible at the volume you set without distorting. 

8. Test out a variety of bassy songs and make some minor adjustments to any frequencies that are still clipping. For me, the 80-100Hz was about a dB too high. After I lowered them, it sounds golden. 

After I did this, my equalizer looks much more realistic (basshead's perspective), and I don't have any more clipping problems. The volume you set is basically your 100% now because if you go any higher than that, the bass will start clipping (if you calibrated it to the brink of distortion). Here's an after pic:

Although my curve is smaller than last time, my volume is also higher, so it balances out in the end. I'm not using the second eq as shown in my last post. I set my volume to -6dB on foobar and calibrated the bass at that volume.

If you're interested and you need more details, feel free to ask. 

Eq'd DT770/990 owners please try this song out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIO_VmVsS-M and tell if you are getting any clipping.

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Originally Posted by Trae 

I'm not really a loud listener. I just like to have a lot of bass at low-medium volumes. I've set the volume on my receiver to deliver the cleanest signal without hissing or clipping (54 seems to be the sweet spot), and I've put the bass on +10dB. On the software side of things, I've eq'ed the bass to the peak the amp inside the receiver is able to handle, and I only use the volume control on foobar to adjust the volume. Depending on the song, the bass can clip with the volume slider on 25%, where on other songs it can clip when the volume is at around 75%. In those cases, I, like you, have to eq some things down, but I only have a handful of songs like that, so it isn't all that bad. 90% of my songs usually clip out when my volume slider is at around 60%, but I can only take that volume for a minute or two. 

 

What I mean't by mine is louder isn't the way I have my rig set up, but how we eq. Simply put, when you eq down, it's going to be quieter than eq'ing up. In order to balance it out you have to up the pre-amp, whereas for me I just eq up a certain frequency and I'm done. Well, at least that's how I think you eq based off of what you said. I'll just throw up some pics of my eq settings in order to clarify. 

 

 

 

 

I have two instances of Electri-Q set up in foobar, so I run both of these simultaneously. When I run across one of my odd songs that clip at low volumes, I usually disable the second one. 

 

EDIT: This is my first time using Electri-Q, so I'm still trying to find my sweet spot for the bass area. 

well, for me, its worth eqing down just for the peace of mind, knowing ill never get any clipping. but to each his own i guess =]

heres how i typically eq

that dip at 7khz is another reason why i like eqing so much. my dt770s have a massive peak at that frequency and for a long time i got really fatigued and couldnt listen to music for more than 10 minutes at a time. now that i can eq that peak away - i can enjoy music for prolonged sessions without any grief. 

and yea, i get crashes every couple of days. i can uninstal and reinstall electriq with a flash. all the practice iv got has made me a speedy pro!

looks like you have a newer version of electriq than i do, could you send me a pm as to where i can download it from?

also, how do you open 2 at a time? is that a feature of the new version?

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Originally Posted by DefQon 

Eq'd DT770/990 owners please try this song out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIO_VmVsS-M and tell if you are getting any clipping.

i think clipping is more to do with how your eqing, not what. anyhow, i eq in foobar, so a youtube video will be eq-free. im afraid i cant help.

adamir, just click the presets pane box in the top right. 

That's more that just a dip...that's a 15dB crater...I usually eq down to remove the spikes in some headphones, but not by that much. Goodness...

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Originally Posted by Trae 

adamir, just click the presets pane box in the top right. 

 

That's more that just a dip...that's a 15dB crater...I usually eq down to remove the spikes in some headphones, but not by that much. Goodness...

oh yea! haha! so how do i get two to run at the same time?

and its not 15dB, it about 6.5dB, relative to frequencies above 300Hz (and with a little roll off at the end, coming back at -2dB from the rest). of course, the bass is boosted by ~10dB itself, but that doesnt change anything. if i didnt have that dip, the peak would be almost as loud as the bass. while not necessary audible, its still very fatiguing to me.

Ah, okay. In order to have multiple instances, just click on it on the right panel and click the left arrow over. 

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Originally Posted by Trae 

Ah, okay. In order to have multiple instances, just click on it on the right panel and click the left arrow over. 

as simple as that huh? thank you very much, cheers!

should the sony mh1c belong to the bassy iem list?

Can someone point me to some iems for $50 or less. I just ordered the M-100s but need some iems for working out and running.

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