The Basshead Club - Page 328

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Originally Posted by myap2328 

Ok, i understood what you guys meant by the devon d5ks being not bassy. I checked out headphone info's FR and if i took the senns hd800 as the neutral standard, the d5k have a +5db in the bass while the m100 have like +8-9db while the senns ie8 iem have crazy bass with +20db and the beats pro having +16-17 db. Interesting, cos the d5ks bass quantity is slightly short of the beats with much more clarity and resolution and better mids and better everything in the world compared to the beats (Esp. noticeable with lossless music)  

 

Hmmm... If I were to ask for suggestions for headphones with better overall sound quality than the m-100 and including bass (quality and quantity) and have an asking price BELOW USD650. 

You can also check out Headphone.com's Build a Headphone Graph page to see a list of measured FR responses. Not all of your cans are available in the list, but you can see how the DX000 cans fare in comparison with some of the bassier cans (Sony's XB series for example).

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Originally Posted by tq87 

Yes I'm open to IEMs too but then there is a tricky problem of finding a good fit and stuff.

 

If "hot ears" is the case I'm probably going for the M80 or the LP(1).

 

How justified is it to pay over 50$ more for the M80 if I'm looking for bass but SQ is secondary but important too?

 

I auditioned the M80 before and wasn't quite impressed with the bass compared to the XB400 (which I randomly auditioned), but I got to say the M80 is very clear in all other areas.

 

Also, I would like to hear a basshead's take on the LP(1) if there is anyone owning that here. 

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: As mentioned above, more specifically I wasn't satisfied with the bass quantity of the M80

How often will you be using the headphone outside? If you're mostly indoors in an air-conditioned environment, then the color of the cans should not be a factor.

Anyway, the XB400 is just a can that produces gobs of bass with no clarity.

Have you auditioned the LP before? They are a mid-bass heavy can that falls short in clarity. They are quite v-shaped with the treble performance drowned out by the huge boost on the low end. The M-80s on the other hand are more balanced in its sound, with a modest bass presentation. If you like the looks of the LP with the sound of the M-80, you can try the M-100. It is a circumaural can that looks just like the LP/LP2. SQ-wise, it sounds closer to the M-80, but with bigger bass.

Ok just for the record you guys.... DO NOT BUY EVEN NUMBERED XB CANS they are pretty terribad compared to the Odd numbered [and older series] but yea the xb400/500 are just mid bass slam... that's it. Everything else on it sounds well barely sufficent... but who cares when that mid bass is slappin u in da face xD

But for a good bassy can... I again like teh byer dt series... the Dt 880 has nice tight bass with a the simple foobar eq and a bass boosting amp...

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Originally Posted by Malevolent 

Have you auditioned the LP before? They are a mid-bass heavy can that falls short in clarity. They are quite v-shaped with the treble performance drowned out by the huge boost on the low end.

They aren't V-shape, they are \-shape. Big bass, very veiled highs and mids fitting somewhere in-between. I see V-shape / recessed mids being thrown around left and right on this forum and can't stand it. :P

Frequency response is about how loud the frequencies sound like throughout the range, not HOW they sound like. Beginners may think "muddy" mids is due to recessed mids which isn't the truth, muddy mids usually comes either from boosted upper-bass or veiled highs, ie. around the midrange, not from the midrange. It's about how loud the mids, whether they are clear or not if they are recessed or not. Frequency response measurements of the LPs backs this up too. /End of rant

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD 

 

They aren't V-shape, they are \-shape. Big bass, very veiled highs and mids fitting somewhere in-between. I see V-shape / recessed mids being thrown around left and right on this forum and can't stand it. :P

 

Frequency response is about how loud the frequencies sound like throughout the range, not HOW they sound like. Beginners may think "muddy" mids is due to recessed mids which isn't the truth, muddy mids usually comes either from boosted upper-bass or veiled highs, ie. around the midrange, not from the midrange. It's about how loud the mids, whether they are clear or not if they are recessed or not. Frequency response measurements of the LPs backs this up too. /End of rant

Okay, bro, I'll stop throwing about the v-shaped phrase.  Yes, I agree that the LP has veiled highs, but I think the mids sound more recessed than the highs. Still, the LPs are mostly just bass. Nevertheless, it's always nice to learn more about sound. Thanks! 

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Originally Posted by Malevolent 

 

You can also check out Headphone.com's Build a Headphone Graph page to see a list of measured FR responses. Not all of your cans are available in the list, but you can see how the DX000 cans fare in comparison with some of the bassier cans (Sony's XB series for example).

 

 

How often will you be using the headphone outside? If you're mostly indoors in an air-conditioned environment, then the color of the cans should not be a factor.

 

Anyway, the XB400 is just a can that produces gobs of bass with no clarity.

 

Have you auditioned the LP before? They are a mid-bass heavy can that falls short in clarity. They are quite v-shaped with the treble performance drowned out by the huge boost on the low end. The M-80s on the other hand are more balanced in its sound, with a modest bass presentation. If you like the looks of the LP with the sound of the M-80, you can try the M-100. It is a circumaural can that looks just like the LP/LP2. SQ-wise, it sounds closer to the M-80, but with bigger bass.

M-100 is way over the budget :) . I've gone with LP1.

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Originally Posted by sofastreamer 

today i got a pair of klipsch image one. wow, so far the most bass and not even bad in anyway i have hear in a pair of cans. reminds me of my old super.fi 5 EB, but with expansive soundstage.

I'm glad you like them.  Unfortunately, I felt that the bass distorted at too low of a volume.

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Originally Posted by sofastreamer 

never heard of distortions at low volumes. shouldnt it distort at high volumes?

I said "too low" which may have been confusing, but I meant they distort at a lower volume than other headphones I compared, so at a moderate volume.  With bass-heavy tracks, I felt the drivers just couldn't handle it.

Well, if you're talking about that kind of money, you'd be better suited in getting a real amp like the Schiit Lyr or equivalent, or do you want a portable amp under $500? If that's the case, then I'd just go with the E12 and pocket the difference. It may not have the bass boosting capabilities of some amps, but it covers that hole in pure power, offering roughly twice the power as the 12HE 4G while costing less than half less. With that said, the arrow is still a good purchase if you need all of the customization and the small form factor. 

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Originally Posted by Golotripa 

What is the best bass boost amp under $500? Is headstage arrow a good option? How does it compare to fiio e11?

dont own the headstage, dont like the bass boost of the e11. similar to many other bass boosting amps, it boosts half the midrange together with the bass, which changes the music quite noticeably, imho. now, ive never tried the zo2, but looking a frequency graphs, it would seem the boost starts at around 300hz, which is alot closer to a real bass boost, as opposed to the e11s, which starts at around 1khz.

personally, if i were you, id just get a good not-necessarily-bass-boosting amp and use an equalizer. unless your talking about portable use, in which case id go with a zo2 (though again, i have never used one).

what headphones are you pairing with this?

edit: took a look at your profile and it looks like you already have a zo2. if you search back in this thread, youll find that alot of people recommend double amping the zo2 together with the e11, maybe you should give it a try?

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Originally Posted by Golotripa 

Well I am looking to have it supplement a tube amp which obviously won't have a bass boost feature. Probably won't go for e12 as it is lacking in bass boosting feature.. ATM thinking of e11 or headstage arrow.. Anybody know which is better? And are there any other better bass boost alternatives?

so im guessing this is for home use? why not use an eq? complete control over what, and how much your boosting.