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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

just plugged in my odac and O2 for the first time. looks like this is the very best audio tweak for bigger, better bass:
proper amplification and a good dac!

maybe its just because im excited about getting new gear, perhaps its just some psychological bias, but i found myself turning the bass DOWN on the eq, i took it down from +10 db to +7. coming from my sub-par laptop dac and a cmoy, i find the bass alot more pronounced. ill give it a few weeks to get used to the sound and then try and a/b the O2 and cmoy, and then a/b with and without the odac to try and see if i can detect a difference, but for now, im very pleased.

i guess its worth mentioning im using dt 770 pro 250 ohm. these are said to improve greatly when paired with a good amp, the better the amp - the better the headphones. so far, seems like its true =]

p.s
i understand one can get some sort of switchbox, where you connect (for example) two amps, and then can switch between them instantly, for the sake of making a/b comparisons. do these things exist, and if so, are they affordable? what are they called? 

Ooh yay, gettin my first dac soon a schitt modi. Upgraded from.stock mobo dac xD but yea a good amp,makes a world of differance
post #4892 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Ok, i understood what you guys meant by the devon d5ks being not bassy. I checked out headphone info's FR and if i took the senns hd800 as the neutral standard, the d5k have a +5db in the bass while the m100 have like +8-9db while the senns ie8 iem have crazy bass with +20db and the beats pro having +16-17 db. Interesting, cos the d5ks bass quantity is slightly short of the beats with much more clarity and resolution and better mids and better everything in the world compared to the beats (Esp. noticeable with lossless music)  

Hmmm... If I were to ask for suggestions for headphones with better overall sound quality than the m-100 and including bass (quality and quantity) and have an asking price BELOW USD650. 

Xb 700 +22 sub bass biggrin.gif
post #4893 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


Xb 700 +22 sub bass biggrin.gif


Yes, but if he is looking at the D5K, he also cares about overall SQ.

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Hi there, it looks like my concern of the headphones making my ear warm is depriving me of alternatives.

 

Just a few post back, someone mentioned about the material, and not the color of the headphones that cause "hot ears".

 

I once got a black sony headphones and they made my ears hot and unbearable in 15 mins.

 

I then got a white one and they are more comfortable in terms of temperature.

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Anyway, I live in Asia where it is humid and hot with temperature above 30 degree celsius any other day. So can anyone advise on my above question? If "warm ears" is not a problem I would jump at the XB already :)

 

EDIT: I couldn't get to audition the XB500 since it is out of stock everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


From your posts, it sounds like everything leads you back to the D5K and you are looking to justify purchasing them.  Clearly, those are the headphones you want.  As you said, they won't be available forever, so go for it.

True, they do have a place in my heart for its classic retro design and kinda good sound. I just pm Malovent and seeked his view.  If I were to ask for suggestions for headphones with better overall sound quality than the m-100 and including bass (quality and quantity) and have an asking price BELOW USD650. 

post #4897 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

True, they do have a place in my heart for its classic retro design and kinda good sound. I just pm Malovent and seeked his view.  If I were to ask for suggestions for headphones with better overall sound quality than the m-100 and including bass (quality and quantity) and have an asking price BELOW USD650. 


Is portability important?

post #4898 of 11259
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Originally Posted by tq87 View Post

Anyway, I live in Asia where it is humid and hot with temperature above 30 degree celsius any other day. So can anyone advise on my above question? If "warm ears" is not a problem I would jump at the XB already :)

 

EDIT: I couldn't get to audition the XB500 since it is out of stock everywhere.


In that heat, you wouldn't want the XB500 anyway.  In summertime here, I wear IEMs which will keep your ears cooler than anything with earpads.  Have you considered those?

post #4899 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Is portability important?

I know the d5k have a long cable and dont isolate very well (2-3/10) but for me sound is important and since i travel with a bag almost always, long cables aren't a problem and def. not a deal breaker. So for now, let me say my answer is no. But however, i still need some isolation (No Open can). Thx in adv.

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Yes I'm open to IEMs too but then there is a tricky problem of finding a good fit and stuff.

 

If "hot ears" is the case I'm probably going for the M80 or the LP(1).

 

How justified is it to pay over 50$ more for the M80 if I'm looking for bass but SQ is secondary but important too?

 

I auditioned the M80 before and wasn't quite impressed with the bass compared to the XB400 (which I randomly auditioned), but I got to say the M80 is very clear in all other areas.

 

Also, I would like to hear a basshead's take on the LP(1) if there is anyone owning that here. 

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: As mentioned above, more specifically I wasn't satisfied with the bass quantity of the M80


Edited by tq87 - 2/14/13 at 6:10am
post #4901 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

I know the d5k have a long cable and dont isolate very well (2-3/10) but for me sound is important and since i travel with a bag almost always, long cables aren't a problem and def. not a deal breaker. So for now, let me say my answer is no. But however, i still need some isolation (No Open can). Thx in adv.


Did you know the D5K is semi-open and leaks quite a bit?

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OMG just found Dt 990 Pro 250 NEW for $159 dollars :O [that's $20 cheaper than B&H] in addition the site is http://www.spectrumaudio.com/, and u get 5% off ur first purcahse so it's it's valid and I thin it is [I called thier hot line and I'm chatting with support] I can get dt 990 pro 250's for $125 :O that's USED price for NEW cans :D [it's only $50 savings but that;s pretty damn good :D] 

 

I take that back, it seems spectrum audio sells refrubished/used/returned items as well... still it's $125 for the first can with the addition of a reutrn policy and a warranty [I buy used stuff so what do i care] I'm trying to work a cheaper price though, so let's see what they can throw me! 

 

But I'll get getting my Schiit Modi and dt 990s here in a week :D


Edited by Mshenay - 2/14/13 at 9:57am
post #4903 of 11259
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Originally Posted by myap2328 View Post

Ok, i understood what you guys meant by the devon d5ks being not bassy. I checked out headphone info's FR and if i took the senns hd800 as the neutral standard, the d5k have a +5db in the bass while the m100 have like +8-9db while the senns ie8 iem have crazy bass with +20db and the beats pro having +16-17 db. Interesting, cos the d5ks bass quantity is slightly short of the beats with much more clarity and resolution and better mids and better everything in the world compared to the beats (Esp. noticeable with lossless music)  

 

Hmmm... If I were to ask for suggestions for headphones with better overall sound quality than the m-100 and including bass (quality and quantity) and have an asking price BELOW USD650. 

 

You can also check out Headphone.com's Build a Headphone Graph page to see a list of measured FR responses. Not all of your cans are available in the list, but you can see how the DX000 cans fare in comparison with some of the bassier cans (Sony's XB series for example).

 

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Originally Posted by tq87 View Post

Yes I'm open to IEMs too but then there is a tricky problem of finding a good fit and stuff.

 

If "hot ears" is the case I'm probably going for the M80 or the LP(1).

 

How justified is it to pay over 50$ more for the M80 if I'm looking for bass but SQ is secondary but important too?

 

I auditioned the M80 before and wasn't quite impressed with the bass compared to the XB400 (which I randomly auditioned), but I got to say the M80 is very clear in all other areas.

 

Also, I would like to hear a basshead's take on the LP(1) if there is anyone owning that here. 

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: As mentioned above, more specifically I wasn't satisfied with the bass quantity of the M80

 

How often will you be using the headphone outside? If you're mostly indoors in an air-conditioned environment, then the color of the cans should not be a factor.

 

Anyway, the XB400 is just a can that produces gobs of bass with no clarity.

 

Have you auditioned the LP before? They are a mid-bass heavy can that falls short in clarity. They are quite v-shaped with the treble performance drowned out by the huge boost on the low end. The M-80s on the other hand are more balanced in its sound, with a modest bass presentation. If you like the looks of the LP with the sound of the M-80, you can try the M-100. It is a circumaural can that looks just like the LP/LP2. SQ-wise, it sounds closer to the M-80, but with bigger bass.


Edited by Malevolent - 2/14/13 at 10:30am
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Ok just for the record you guys.... DO NOT BUY EVEN NUMBERED XB CANS they are pretty terribad compared to the Odd numbered [and older series] but yea the xb400/500 are just mid bass slam... that's it. Everything else on it sounds well barely sufficent... but who cares when that mid bass is slappin u in da face xD

 

But for a good bassy can... I again like teh byer dt series... the Dt 880 has nice tight bass with a the simple foobar eq and a bass boosting amp...

post #4905 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

Have you auditioned the LP before? They are a mid-bass heavy can that falls short in clarity. They are quite v-shaped with the treble performance drowned out by the huge boost on the low end.

 

They aren't V-shape, they are \-shape. Big bass, very veiled highs and mids fitting somewhere in-between. I see V-shape / recessed mids being thrown around left and right on this forum and can't stand it. :P

 

Frequency response is about how loud the frequencies sound like throughout the range, not HOW they sound like. Beginners may think "muddy" mids is due to recessed mids which isn't the truth, muddy mids usually comes either from boosted upper-bass or veiled highs, ie. around the midrange, not from the midrange. It's about how loud the mids, whether they are clear or not if they are recessed or not. Frequency response measurements of the LPs backs this up too. /End of rant


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/14/13 at 11:14am
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