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Well, I finished my open mod of my Pro700MKII. They look horrible now...I used a dremel and drilled out the outside of the headphone, and since the left side of the headphone has a PCB that allows removable cables, there is a piece of plastic hanging out. I'm not wearing these outside, so I really don't care what they look like. I filled in the holes with cotton, and that seemed to remove the OVERLY forward midrange. Plus there is less of a blare in the midrange--a byproduct of opening them up. 

 

I can truthfully say that there is more detail in this headphone. Actually, these sound more like reference headphones. The pros were "musical" before, and now they sound more analytical. For example, the headphones now sound like a record player, and you hear the little static on it. The pros before had it, but it's more noticeable now that I've allowed the headphones to breath much more. Before, there was a sibilance in the 1K-4K frequency range (I don't know the actual frequency, but it's around there), and now the sibilance is gone. Plus, they sound a bit more balanced. 

 

The bass of the headphones is noticeably increased, mainly because I've increased the amount of holes the drivers are able to breathe out of. It also sounds more accurate, there is more impact, and it seems to bleed in the frequencies noticeably less than before (when you're running ~36dB of bass boost, it will undoubtedly bleed). It also sounds a bit tighter and spacious.

 

The midrange is something that I have to get used to. Before the headphone enclosure was stuffed with cotton, there was a blare in the midrange, and it sounded like you just eq'ed the middle frequencies by like ~6dB. If you've tried it out before, then you know exactly what I mean. So, I lowered the values that corresponded to the blare I was hearing (my eq settings had the midrange higher than flat), stuffed in cotton, and that issue was fixed. 

 

There is more extension in the treble. It still has the same tone (one notch away from neutral), and it is more pleasant to listen to than before. 

 

The soundstage is much wider that it was before. It extends away from my ears more, and it projects in front and behind me better. This is the most noticeable improvement over the original pros. It is also easier to pick out where things are at because there is more space in the soundstage. 

 

I've only listened to them for about an hour, but that's all it really takes for me to notice the sound differences between before and after. So far, I'm really liking the way they sound, and they've stopped me from buying the DT990/600...In the future I'll pick up a pair of the ATH-AD900 and swap out the drivers. They have the same driver size, the gel earpads should fit a bit better, and they are better constructed than these headphones. The wings on the top should also improve the comfort. It'll also look much better than what my headphones look like right now (HIDEOUS). I think that all of those factors make it worth $200. 

 

I'm still toying with the eq, so it's going to take me some time to find the sweet spot for these headphones now. 

 

EDIT: I'm blasting out my ears right now, and my ears aren't fatiguing anymore. Before I did this, the upper frequencies would really mess my ears up (I have tinnitus in my right ear), and whenever I hear a certain frequency (upper midrange), my ear would start sounding like there is a crackling sound. Now, everything sounds a bit more subdued and more pleasant, which is a huge plus for me. I'm listening to music on the loudest volume that I couldn't before, and there is no problem with my ear. Before, I couldn't listen to the songs at loud volumes because my tinnitus would prevent me from doing so. These headphones are so much more enjoyable now. 


Edited by Trae - 12/17/12 at 6:38pm
post #3767 of 6405
@craigster75 Is the bass on those worth the extra 100? Instead of the m-100
Edited by Carlos4996 - 12/17/12 at 6:32pm
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@craigster75 Is the bass on those worth the extra 100? Instead of the m-100


NO

post #3769 of 6405

Not really a fan of "brown" headphones. Also the Velodynes seem way bigger than the M100's. But if they sound good I guess that's what really matters.

 

I was almost sure to make the DT770-80 my next official basshead cans, but now I'm leaning more and more towards the M100. Hopefully by the time I decide to buy it the price has gone down a bit....at least $225-$250.

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NO
Oh haha ok good, I was thinking of reconsidering
post #3771 of 6405
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Not really a fan of "brown" headphones. Also the Velodynes seem way bigger than the M100's. But if they sound good I guess that's what really matters.

 

I was almost sure to make the DT770-80 my next official basshead cans, but now I'm leaning more and more towards the M100. Hopefully by the time I decide to buy it the price has gone down a bit....at least $225-$250.


IMO, M-100 is superior to VTrue and every Beyer I have heard.  In fact, the more headphones I audition, the more I appreciate how special the M-100 is.  Perfect sonic balance to my ears.

post #3772 of 6405

The more I listen to these headphones, the more I like them. These headphones remind me of the LCD-2's that I've heard, especially in the midrange. 

post #3773 of 6405
Hey Craigster did you
Get around to testing the ZO in high gain with the headphone out jack?
post #3774 of 6405
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Received my Velodyne VTrue tonight!

 

First impressions out of the box (my first impressions usually don't change much after extensive evaluation)

 

Portability:  They are heavy and bulky, plus they do not fold.  My M-100 feels feather light after wearing the VTrue.  Their weight feels comparable to Beats Pro.  Build quality is top shelf- solid aluminum and plush leather.  Since they were fresh off the UPS truck, the thick metal was very cold.  I had to search for plastic on this headphone and it is only around the dual cable inputs.  Cables are high quality cloth and seem relatively tangle-free.  Despite size and weight, they are reasonably comfortable.  They are very cool looking in person and feel luxurious.  VTrue is driven reasonably well from my Iphone and responds well to amping.

 

Sound:  These are clearly basshead cans.  Bass rivals my M-100 in terms of quantity and quality, maybe even a little more punch with VTrue without being boomy.  Mids are detailed and are also comparable to M-100 and UE6000. Mids also seem more forward. Highs are noticeably rolled off compared to the M-100 and even slightly compared to the UE6000, but not as dark as something like the Aiaiai TMA-1 or some of the Pioneer DJ headphones.  I would say these are excellent sounding headphones, but I need more time with them to determine if they are for me.  I consider my M-100s to be my go-to, multi-genre audiophile headphone even though they have been categorized as basshead cans.  I am actually looking for a secondary quality basshead can and will see if these meet my needs over the next few weeks.   If you are looking for a basshead can with deep, tight bass, good midrange detail and don't mind rolled off highs, you may want to check them out.  If I had to compare them to another headphone sonically, I would say they are a classy, improved ATH-PRO700MK2.  These have a luxurious feel that you don't experience with synthetic materials and Velodyne didn't skimp on the build quality.

 

700

 

Thanks Craig, I was really interested in this.

post #3775 of 6405
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

Hey Craigster did you
Get around to testing the ZO in high gain with the headphone out jack?


I did and still much prefer double amping with my E11.

post #3776 of 6405
Alright after hearing this I think I am going to get the Fiio X3. It has the E17 amping chip in it so I hope it pairs well when using the HO to ZO
post #3777 of 6405

ATH-PRO700MK2 with the ZO2, any comments?

post #3778 of 6405
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I did and still much prefer double amping with my E11.


+1 ; )

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With the M50, are you saying you didn't like the sub-bass because you felt it was lacking or too much?

I listened one more time to the M50, i was fascinated ... Some songs really show its true bass power... And others just have sensed bass, maybe not ear punching bass but really beautiful and i call it really controlled. I will buying these for sure :-) Thanks for the help Craigster !

post #3780 of 6405
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I listened one more time to the M50, i was fascinated ... Some songs really show its true bass power... And others just have sensed bass, maybe not ear punching bass but really beautiful and i call it really controlled. I will buying these for sure :-) Thanks for the help Craigster !

They're a great set of entry level cans for sure. The M50 is a jack of all trades, master of none.

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