The Basshead Club - Page 233

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Originally Posted by miow 

 

Maybe the M-Audio Q40's. But the AKG K167 TIESTOs are much better and have the sub-bass you're looking for (mid-bass is not exaggerated). It's also much thighter. The main difference for the Q40's is much much better treble/clarity/resolution.

So you're saying that K167 has better bass than Q40, but Q40 has better treble/clarity/resolution than K167?

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Originally Posted by Mshenay 

... the Sony Xb700s... from about 90hz and below it's HUGE, then the Mid bass Rolls off xD, and if you mod them you get even more SUB BASS... which reminds me I'm thinking of selling my Xb700[Modded]... although I paid $80 for em last year NEW, they are up to like $160 now... <.< not worth buying new any more imo [but used an modded should still =BANG for Buck]

A lot of people hate them but surprisingly ljokerl's review of them is quite favourable, all things considered. I would consider them, but I'm looking for something to use outdoors so the huge physical size and the lack of removable cable are definitely negatives for me.

Hey guys...based on your experience, what will be the main differences in sound between the DT770 Pro 80 and the DT770 Pro LE 32, mainly if amped with the FiiO E11?

Also, any big changes in sound signature if using the velour pads with the LE 32 instead of the pleathers?

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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 

So you're saying that K167 has better bass than Q40, but Q40 has better treble/clarity/resolution than K167?

No, the K167 has MUCH better treble/clarity/resolution than Q40. And the K167 bass is tighter.

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Originally Posted by miow 

 

No, the K167 has MUCH better treble/clarity/resolution than Q40. And the K167 bass is tighter.

Tighter is nice some times, depending on the Genre. Some DnB likes nice TIGHT bass, where as some Dub Step sounds fine with a little loose bass. And yea every one hates the XB700 cuz they ain't got the guts to wear it in public ;3

but yea... don't try to run in them... or do any outside work xD.

If you need for out doors try the Senn HD25-1 II, the sound stage is small but they have nice Mid bass, the Byer Dt 1350 is simmilar to the Sens except with more Sub Bass n a little bigger Sound Stage [but less quanity, although DT1350 bass is tighter] so depends on your source and the music you like. Dark an Dirty is how I like my Dub Step, so I can handle the extra muddy filthy bass xD

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Originally Posted by miow 

 

No, the K167 has MUCH better treble/clarity/resolution than Q40. And the K167 bass is tighter.

 

Originally Posted by Mshenay 
 

Tighter is nice some times, depending on the Genre. Some DnB likes nice TIGHT bass, where as some Dub Step sounds fine with a little loose bass. And yea every one hates the XB700 cuz they ain't got the guts to wear it in public ;3

 

but yea... don't try to run in them... or do any outside work xD.

 

If you need for out doors try the Senn HD25-1 II, the sound stage is small but they have nice Mid bass, the Byer Dt 1350 is simmilar to the Sens except with more Sub Bass n a little bigger Sound Stage [but less quanity, although DT1350 bass is tighter] so depends on your source and the music you like. Dark an Dirty is how I like my Dub Step, so I can handle the extra muddy filthy bass xD

I feel like I've been betrayed. How come no one's ever told me of these K167 until a few days ago? I'm still a little more interested in the K267 though. I'm still trying to get over the flashyness of it though lol what can I say, I'm stubborn. 

Yes, drum and bass demands tightness in the lower end..... That's what she said.... I remember the days when the sub bass rhythms are what made dubstep so special. Now it's just 'overwhelming bass', screechy dentist drills and over compressed, over used presets that's got all the kids loving it (sorry, I've been a fan a fan of dubstep for years but can't get on board with this new ****). Still, I would rather tight bass with the deeper side of dubstep, like Truth, DJ Madd, Distance, Icicle, Goth Trad, Mala, J:Kenzo etc. I feel like by muddying up those types of producers, you take away a lot of what makes them so special. This is why I would NEVER even consider the XB line. 

I'd also recommend MadDogs (With Dog pads) instead of DT1350 if someone wants tight clean bass, but rather circumaural over supra. Also much more comfortable (DT1350 users complain about comfort, and getting the 'sweet spot' in your ears for that bottomless bass), and extends to a similar degree. I've been pining over which of the two I'm going to get myself, and pair it with a ZO. My personal choice is MD w/ DogPads for comfort reasons, but still have my eye on the DT1350. 

K267 in "Stage" mode will be better suited for bassheads. But I tell you something: I'm a basshead and really don't need more bass than what I'm getting from the K167s. They're superb in all aspects, since bass (so tight and deep) to mids, to treble, to separation, to micro-detail.

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Originally Posted by miow 

K267 in "Stage" mode will be better suited for bassheads. But I tell you something: I'm a basshead and really don't need more bass than what I'm getting from the K167s. They're superb in all aspects, since bass (so tight and deep) to mids, to treble, to separation, to micro-detail.

What does Studio and Club mode do though? I'm assuming Studio has a flat(ter) response, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what the difference between Club and Stage modes could be, and what their applications would be? I figure Stage is when you're DJing on stage, but Club is for..... when you're in a club?... Clubbing (entirely redundant and where my confusion kicks in)? Or is it 'Club type sound' for regular listening? I REALLY hope this 'three in one headphone' thing is not just a gimmick that's propelled by the Tiesto branding/marketting.

If the Studio setting ends up being rediculously flat while the Stage and Club settings are more than useful than gimmicky, making this a true three in one headphone, I'm totally sold on these.

I'll have to come up with some crafty aesthetic modifications though ;p

I'm pretty sure the Studio setting ends up being really flat and the other 2 settings will give you (alot) more bass quantity, being the "Stage" the highest, i.e. a true three in one headphone.

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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY 

 

I feel like I've been betrayed. How come no one's ever told me of these K167 until a few days ago? I'm still a little more interested in the K267 though. I'm still trying to get over the flashyness of it though lol what can I say, I'm stubborn. 

 

Yes, drum and bass demands tightness in the lower end..... That's what she said.... I remember the days when the sub bass rhythms are what made dubstep so special. Now it's just 'overwhelming bass', screechy dentist drills and over compressed, over used presets that's got all the kids loving it (sorry, I've been a fan a fan of dubstep for years but can't get on board with this new ****). Still, I would rather tight bass with the deeper side of dubstep, like Truth, DJ Madd, Distance, Icicle, Goth Trad, Mala, J:Kenzo etc. I feel like by muddying up those types of producers, you take away a lot of what makes them so special. This is why I would NEVER even consider the XB line. 

 

I'd also recommend MadDogs (With Dog pads) instead of DT1350 if someone wants tight clean bass, but rather circumaural over supra. Also much more comfortable (DT1350 users complain about comfort, and getting the 'sweet spot' in your ears for that bottomless bass), and extends to a similar degree. I've been pining over which of the two I'm going to get myself, and pair it with a ZO. My personal choice is MD w/ DogPads for comfort reasons, but still have my eye on the DT1350. 

M-100 has some very tight, deep bass.  This is great, except I also want a headphone than can offer "overwhelming bass" with the accurate mids and highs of something like the M-100.

Does anybody have any comments on the ATH-PRO700MK2?

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Originally Posted by AlmostAPhile 

Does anybody have any comments on the ATH-PRO700MK2?

Their mid and sub bass is among the best I ever heard.  Mids are good, but I find their signature too dark for my taste, even with EQ.  For me, a large piece of the high end is missing.  If you don't mind a darker can and want superb bass, they may be for you. As an alternative in the same price range that is much more neutral (reasonably extended high end)  with similar bass quality, I recommend the M-Audio Q40.  Both benefit from an inexpensive headphone amp like a FiiO E11.  The 700MK2 feels more solidly built than the Q40.  Also, both get low marks for comfort unmodded.

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 

M-100 has some very tight, deep bass.  This is great, except I also want a headphone than can offer "overwhelming bass" with the accurate mids and highs of something like the M-100.

That's where the ZO comes in. XD

PERSONAL SUBWOOFER!?

Yes please XD

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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY 

That's where the ZO comes in. XD

 

PERSONAL SUBWOOFER!?

 

Yes please XD

I'm expecting a ZO before the end of the year.  However, the drivers also have to be capable of handling and delivering that type of bass, so we will see how the M-100s do.  The dark horse in the basshead race is the Velodyne V-True.  If you have ever heard a high end Velodyne subwoofer, you will understand why I have such high hopes for their namesake flagship headphone, especially since the VPulse is considered an excellent basshead IEM for the price.

I am anticipating my ultimate basshead can will come down to the following:

Velodyne VTrue

AKG Tiesto K267

Ultrasone Signature DJ

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 

I'm expecting a ZO before the end of the year.  However, the drivers also have to be capable of handling and delivering that type of bass, so we will see how the M-100s do.  The dark horse in the basshead race is the Velodyne V-True.  If you have ever heard a high end Velodyne subwoofer, you will understand why I have such high hopes for their namesake flagship headphone, especially since the VPulse is considered an excellent basshead IEM for the price.

Good to know about those VPulse. I'll look into them... I'm pretty new to headphones to be honest. I've always been an IEM guy for various reasons, portability being the main reason. Lately though, I need something more than my IEMs (CKM500s, the bass is REALLY tight let me tell you) can handle when it comes to imaging and detail, that's why I've been more into headphones lately.
 

On the M-100 thread someone said that the M-100s handle the ZO pretty well considering how clean and tight the bass is already, it just increases in quantity. With the Paper towel mod and no ZO, the bass is more tamed, bringing the mids and highs more forward without sacrificing detail, making it more even, add the ZO, you got the overwhelming bass. It's on page 666, or 665 I think. I was asking about it, and I too am expecting a ZO by the end of the year, and my M-100's (whenever I get my shipping confirmation, like everyone else is ;_; ). So I'm gonna know how overwhelming it can get myself. I don't even really plan on using the ZO with the M-100s for the most part, unless with this paper towel mod.