I have a question for the hdj pioneer 2000 headphones. Do they have the same bass as the sol republic tracks.
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Yea you might be right :'[ *tear Drop*
I've found some Dt 770 Pro 80's on eBay for around $140. So at about half the price of the Xb1000s... gonna take them first and formost! If I ever sell my Xb700 I'll go the the 1000. as most 700 users agree... the 1000 is an improvement over the XB700
Did you ever try the Xb700, if you hated it to then well you just don't like the XB sound <3. I do how ever... but my wallet likes Dt 770 pro 80's new at $140 :x
are you kidding me i love the xb700 sound its was fantastic, i love the xb sound i have had the 500 for 2 years and then sold them in prusit for the 700 i was impressed and to me they were a bit better but i just got bored with all BASSSS i needed more in my music, you could esialy tell there was alot more music missing compared to my shures or my atrios
finding perfect headphones is hard
i have found the perfect iems that the atrios but no headphones :(
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I didn't like the XB700. Always prefered the XB500 (for various reasons, since mids, to highs, to BASS)
Good headphones for sub bass?
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... not a fan of Monster, they charge to much for well everything.
BUT I do have to say... the Beats Studio... r not as terrible as the Pro. There is ofc the Senn HD-25-1 II for around the same price, which is well much better.
But as far as sound goes... I can respect the sucker who buys Studios. The Pro [or orgianls] are still over rated Mudd Cannons -.-

Wait what. i personally thought the Pros sounded better than the studios.
You know the beats pros are these right?
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2010/11/29/glam_pro.png
Not a fan of Monster as well as they are the one's responsible for the greedy retail $$$ on their headphone/cable gear. But I do have to say, you two are some fine people who actually same as me agree that the Studios and Pro's do sound alright at something, for the price..hell no...but for a $80-100 they are not that bad, but it's good to see that you two are not bashing the brand like most others do.
And I'd have to agree Mshenay, it's funny how the Pro's are the Beat's flagship headphone, the Studio's are sort of more balanced compared to it, probably the built-in amplifier is to blame.
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The HDJ 2000 are well worth their $200 asking price, and now in black they are tempting again (I sold off the originals this summer). Their build and materials have yet to be matched, and I believe they were the first to use memory foam ear cushions (correct me if I am wrong). But I definitely needed the ZO when using them.
Oh those are Bass Head cans... I actually demo'd them and welll they sounded TERIBBLE to me xD. I used my Dt 880 As a refrance, and I assumed the Pioneer HDJ2000 was well a mixing Can, one with tranparancy... still though I do remember them being bassy [but it sounded like Mud] Still good to know I had the wrong idea about them lol
I think your right, I like the Dt 880's bass [I eq up for some Dub every now an then] Plus they are about half the price and I can get some REAL isolation maybe lol

Dang, this thread decided to blow up. Anyways, I found the amp/dac they had. It's a Burson Audio HA-160DS. Turns out to be only $1000
. According to the specs of the unit, it actually has some great components in it, but I'd take a Schiit Bifrost/Lyr combo over it any day. As far as the music, all of the music was FLAC lossless. The area was pretty quiet, and it wasn't loud enough for it to affect the headphones (some talking on the phone in the next room, walking around), and some research I did on the unit implies that it has pretty good synergy on the LCD-2's at least, but then again, I believe that amp synergy is way overhyped. The users that posted in this thread basically cover what I believe is what synergy really is, and the specification aspect of it doesn't seem to affect the Burson amp/dac. I only mention the LCD-2s because I don't care much for the grados. They're basically the opposite of what I want in a headphone, minus their great soundstage. Heck, Grado shouldn't even be allowed to be mentioned in this thread 
Let me break it down this way. Any time you run Music through eletronics your going to get some "color" some change to it. And every amp adds different "color" so when I say Synergy, I'm refering to the coloration added by the amp. And EVERY amp adds SOME color [maybe not a lot or even VERY little] Some amps are built to add a lot of color [like my Jds cMoy BB] and some a lot less [The Jds C421 Ap8620 is "color less" subjectivly Speaking] so there is still a chance that the amp used wasn't the right match for the Azudes. There's also the songs you listened to. Still it's a shame to hear they didn't wow you!

You're really putting looks THAT important that you are skipping a pair of headphones because of their looks? :O
Personally I'd wear the Pink Hello Kitty headphones if they were actually great sounding and smile at their face to any1 that's laughing at me and tell how their prioritizings stinks! IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SOUND MY FRIEND. THAT's the spirit. ;)
Yeap, I where my Xb700s in public all the time and they look pretty foolish... but again they sound so FUN!
The more I come here, the more I want to get the Byer Dt 770 Pro 80 [I found some on eBay for around $140 but I think I'll w8 and buy em used from here]
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Does anyone know of any headphones that are neutral above 80 Hz but have HUGE bass below that? I can never get enough sub bass and impact but most bassy headphones have way too much mid bass emphasis which I don't like.
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Maybe the M-Audio Q40's. But the AKG K167 TIESTOs are much better and have the sub-bass you're looking for (mid-bass is not exaggerated). It's also much thighter. The main difference for the Q40's is much much better treble/clarity/resolution.
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... the Sony Xb700s... from about 90hz and below it's HUGE, then the Mid bass Rolls off xD, and if you mod them you get even more SUB BASS... which reminds me I'm thinking of selling my Xb700[Modded]... although I paid $80 for em last year NEW, they are up to like $160 now... <.< not worth buying new any more imo [but used an modded should still =BANG for Buck]
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XB700 sound terrible. Since mids to treble, to clarity/resolution.
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You don't buy the XB700 for Mids or Treble, and when you mod them you get better clarity and resulition in the Highs. The Xb series has one pourpose... sub bass... there isn't much that has more Sub Bass Quanity than the Xb700. So once again... if you want SUB BASS, and you only care for MORE SUB BASS, then the XB700 is the way to go.
Ofc there are cans like the D2000, the Dt 770 Pro 80, and Q-Audio M40 [which is a great can] amoungst others that have great Sub bass and good sound. But at the end of the day, if all you want is BASS. The Xb700 is what ya need. And sound is subjective. If you don't like them specify your opinon. Don't state it as fact -.-,
Some people hate teh XB series some love it, I suggest you try it for your self because you either like it or you don't! But either way... the Xb700 has MONSTEROUS [lil muddy n bloated] Sub bass [maybe his ears can't handle all that bass <3 poor guy]
Also Miow, I see you have a lot of Iems. Keep in mind IEM bass and Full Size Can bass are different. The fun of Full Size Can bass is feeling it push agains't the side of your face. Although the K167's are probaly a better choice... the Xb700 is not $80 any more sadly [it's gotten freakishly expensive] Although this site
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Has em for $110, about $90 cheaper than the K167s
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I know, I've had both the XB500 and XB700 (prefered the XB500 though). As well as DT770/880 Ultrasone PRO900, AiAiAi TMA-1, DENON D5000 and so many more.
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Oh yea I agree with you, I can imagine that the K167 would be better than the XB500, but seriously... the 700 has the most period. Pure Quanity and Mega ZOMG sub bass, that 50mm driver shakes ur brain
BUT, I can imagine the k167 would be better, although it depends on his budget. The xb700/500 are a great budget cans! I don't even use my XB's with lossless music. As I know they can't retrive that detail in a worth while way. So for some one who's just starting out in head phone pursuits, looking for Sub Bass, the XB700 would be the best. I assume they don't have limitless wallets and #2 they might not even apreciate teh detail in the k167. So the Xb700 would be a good starting point
although seriously... if you can afford to get the k167 I'd go with that ^^, but as always each person is different. I thought the AiAiAi-TMA was useless...although I really do think 50mm drivers do the best with Sub Bass, small drivers don't have enough surface area to REALLY capture that FEEL of Sub Bass, like Sub Woofers do. So, the K167 is a 40mm and for me it's not big enough and most >50mm head phones don't do Sub Bass well enough for me [as I do like my 12" Sub for Dub Step]
Still though, sound is subjective. Try the cheaper stuff first, and if u don't like you can always return and go bigger!
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