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post #3406 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

Well, I got a short chance to hear some expensive headphones today, and they really didn't wow me given the price tag (LCD-2, GS1000i, and RS1i). I'll try to keep this short because I could type forever about this (I actually typed a lot on it, but I deleted it because I got tired of revising it...)

 

Source: some super expensive class A amp/dac (around $5k)

 

LCD-2: 

Good soundstage depth, but very left/right feeling. It didn't sound very unified. 

Airy sounding and very good separation

Not that comfortable. Leather is hard, and they sit firmly on your head. It has some good clamp on them, but nothing crazy. 

The seal isn't that great because the headphones are very large.

No bass

 

GS1000i

Best soundstage out of the three. It sounded very 3d and complete. 

Too bright

Comfort just sucks. The foam feels pretty rough. Very little clamp

Airy sounding and good separation

Impossible to get a good seal on these. 

Forware midrange

No bass

 

RS1i

Very good soundstage that's similar to the GS1000i

Less treble than the GS1000is. Pretty similar to the LCD-2s

Midrange is a tad bit recessed compared to GS1000i, but both are forward.

Airy sounding and good separation

Comfort sucks on these too. Its basically just like the GS1000i, but the pads are sitting on your ears instead of around them.

No bass

 

I'm sure that if I had the chance to eq these headphones, they would have a much more prominent bass. Heck, even my headphones don't have any bass quantity when I don't eq them. Maybe if/when I go back there, I'll ask the people that work there if I can borrow the LCD-2s. Probably won't happen, but it's worth a shot. Something that one of the guys said there that really got me was that people were returning the Denon D7100s because they didn't sound that good. 

 

Compared to my headphones, all of the ones mentioned above are brighter, have a larger soundstage in height, width, and depth, better separation, and are airier sounding. As far as detail goes, I really cant say. The source and the music was different from mine, but when I was listening to them, I was thinking that, detail wise, my headphones weren't that far behind. In fact, it was pretty darn close, especially for the massive price difference. If I had to choose between the three headphones, I would get the LCD-2s. Then, I would sell them very_evil_smiley.gif loljk (maybe I would...).

... btw where did you test them... I think all of those are Open Air cans and open cans have NO BASS unless your by your self... as ANY noise that leaks in will kill ALL of the bass... the Dt 880s are pretty bad for that. ANd a 5k amp doesn't make it a good amp. Synergy is a big deal with cans. In addition there is the songs you used to test them with :3

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Originally Posted by sid12345678910 View Post

the dt770 pro 80oms is the bass heavy one not the 250 or 600

Indeed it is :D and the Dt 880 has VERY MILD BASS, the Dt 880 IS NOT A BASS CAN, the Dt 990 is open air and is Mid Bass Focused where as the dt 770 is closed and more Sub Focused I belive [which is great because I need a new Sub can <3] 

post #3407 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

the Dt 880s are pretty bad for that. ANd a 5k amp doesn't make it a good amp. Synergy is a big deal with cans. In addition there is the songs you used to test them with :3

Indeed it is :D and the Dt 880 has VERY MILD BASS, the Dt 880 IS NOT A BASS CAN, the Dt 990 is open air and is Mid Bass Focused where as the dt 770 is closed and more Sub Focused I belive [which is great because I need a new Sub can <3] 

 

Sweet. Good to know. How are the mids of the DT770?

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i have persnally tried the byerdynamic and well its good in every aspect but the mids, they are a little muddy compared to my shure 440s but other then that treble is great and the bass is where its happening not to metion how comfeterable they are

 

tested with a O2 amp

 

i didnt pull the trigger on them but it was close, i settled with the xb700 insted witch i sold already, so i am once again surching for a new subbass headphone and the dt770 is in my crosshairs

 

gunna retry them again when i can

post #3409 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY View Post

 

Sweet. Good to know. How are the mids of the DT770?

No idead, but the 880 has the warmest mids, the990 is said to have the most deatiled mids... not sure about the 770.

 

In addition, at the guy who said the XB1000 sounded Muddy... you know what... it does... even if you mod it it's still a little on the mud side but hey guess what... IT's A BASS CANNON <3. Where as the Dt 770 Pro 80 is not a BASSSSSSSSSSSS CANNON. So I get the feeling you can't handle the BASS CANNON, that and you may have under amped those monster 70mm drivers... but I'll own the Byer COP and Pro 80 dt770 but the XB1000 comes first <3 doubting my self is foolish... silly me ^^ 

post #3410 of 11259
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Originally Posted by sid12345678910 View Post

i have persnally tried the byerdynamic and well its good in every aspect but the mids, they are a little muddy compared to my shure 440s but other then that treble is great and the bass is where its happening not to metion how comfeterable they are

 

tested with a O2 amp

 

i didnt pull the trigger on them but it was close, i settled with the xb700 insted witch i sold already, so i am once again surching for a new subbass headphone and the dt770 is in my crosshairs

 

gunna retry them again when i can

I still like my XB700s for Sub bass, what is your beef wid em? I'm actually thinking of going Xb1000 as an upgrade to the 700 since the 1000 is well an improved 700 basically. In addition did you mod your 700's? as that improves the Sub Bass Detail and bring a little mid bass, not to mention it takes away some of the harsh treble

 

but I've been thinking about the Dt 770 pro 80 as a Sub can... not liking the Freq Response graph though... I LOVE XB700 SUB R@PE face... and with dub step only the bass is important, that and instrument seperation... still... I'd be willing to bet the 770 80 is not going to bring more quanity... just quality and the little extra quality is has isn't enough for me to jump on it just yet <3. Plus the Xb1000 is 70mm drivers... when you think about it bass is better with a bigger driver... hence is why ppl have BIG sub woofers... but still 70mm DRIVERS :D, it's like a Sub attached yo your BRAIN

post #3411 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

No idead, but the 880 has the warmest mids, the990 is said to have the most deatiled mids... not sure about the 770.

 

In addition, at the guy who said the XB1000 sounded Muddy... you know what... it does... even if you mod it it's still a little on the mud side but hey guess what... IT's A BASS CANNON <3. Where as the Dt 770 Pro 80 is not a BASSSSSSSSSSSS CANNON. So I get the feeling you can't handle the BASS CANNON, that and you may have under amped those monster 70mm drivers... but I'll own the Byer COP and Pro 80 dt770 but the XB1000 comes first <3 doubting my self is foolish... silly me ^^ 

i hated the xb1000 not matter what amp i tried i hated them, they sound so distent like the music was a mile away they sounded dull and boring, bass was good, treble was ok but mids were poop

post #3412 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

... btw where did you test them... I think all of those are Open Air cans and open cans have NO BASS unless your by your self... as ANY noise that leaks in will kill ALL of the bass... the Dt 880s are pretty bad for that. ANd a 5k amp doesn't make it a good amp. Synergy is a big deal with cans. In addition there is the songs you used to test them with :3

Indeed it is :D and the Dt 880 has VERY MILD BASS, the Dt 880 IS NOT A BASS CAN, the Dt 990 is open air and is Mid Bass Focused where as the dt 770 is closed and more Sub Focused I belive [which is great because I need a new Sub can <3] 

 

If you need a sub can and very high resolution/detail, get the AKG K167 TIESTO ($199). They're 5x better than the DT770. They sound like a $500+ can.

post #3413 of 11259
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Originally Posted by sid12345678910 View Post

i hated the xb1000 not matter what amp i tried i hated them, they sound so distent like the music was a mile away they sounded dull and boring, bass was good, treble was ok but mids were poop

Did you mod it, also ofc the mids sucked it's an XB can... the only thing the XB cans really do it well Sub bass, via Dub Step... trust me I had XB700 for like a year till I got my DT 880 [then I heard mids for the first time in a sense lawl]

 

Yea it's not a good can... just a Sub Heavy monster and that's all it does well. Is it worth $300... no but I like it and it will be a cool addition to mah collection <3 

post #3414 of 11259
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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

If you need a sub can and very high resolution/detail, get the AKG K167 TIESTO ($199). They're 5x better than the DT770. They sound like a $500+ can.


In that case, I am anticipating reviews of the K267.

post #3415 of 11259
I'm waiting for the K267's too; the upgrade in build quality alone is enough for me to pick it over the K167. It has been delayed though... again.

Remind you of a recent product?
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If anyone is willing to take the plunge on a new release premium basshead can, the Velodyne V-True and Yamaha Pro 500 are officially available and in stock (at Velodyne and Amazon respectively).
 

post #3417 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Did you mod it, also ofc the mids sucked it's an XB can... the only thing the XB cans really do it well Sub bass, via Dub Step... trust me I had XB700 for like a year till I got my DT 880 [then I heard mids for the first time in a sense lawl]

 

Yea it's not a good can... just a Sub Heavy monster and that's all it does well. Is it worth $300... no but I like it and it will be a cool addition to mah collection <3 

Okay but how does the DT880 do bass, and especially sub bass? Previous comments said it's not a bass head can, but is it at least tight punchy and well presented? Will a ZO solve any laid back bass issues?

 

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Originally Posted by miow View Post

 

If you need a sub can and very high resolution/detail, get the AKG K167 TIESTO ($199). They're 5x better than the DT770. They sound like a $500+ can.

Again, how are the mids in the Tiestos, and how do they compare to the K267? They're a little gaudy for me, but if they sound good, they just won't leave home. 

I'm having a problem with all these basshead cans, they seem to sacrifice lush musical mids and instead go for peaky highs.

IS THERE A CAN.... That does bass stupid well, but does not sacrifice the musicality in mids, or too treble peaky? I WAS going to pull the trigger on the DT770, but if mids are being sacrificed, I can't go for that and be happy. I already have the M-100's on their way to me and I know I'm gonna be missing my mids, just from the discussion page.

 

-.-' Never ending search continues. 

 

Might just go with the DT1350 and ZO combo for portable use. 


Edited by Apo0th3karY - 12/4/12 at 6:39pm
post #3418 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY View Post


IS THERE A CAN.... That does bass stupid well, but does not sacrifice the musicality in mids, or too treble peaky? I WAS going to pull the trigger on the DT770, but if mids are being sacrificed, I can't go for that and be happy. I already have the M-100's on their way to me and I know I'm gonna be missing my mids, just from the discussion page.

 

 

I don't think so... the whole Idea of bass head cans is the fun V-Shape. You can get a Byer Dynamic Dt 990 Pro 600 and get a tube, that might be your best bet for OMG BASS and yay mids! 

post #3419 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Apo0th3karY View Post

Okay but how does the DT880 do bass, and especially sub bass? Previous comments said it's not a bass head can, but is it at least tight punchy and well presented? Will a ZO solve any laid back bass issues?

Again, how are the mids in the Tiestos. They're a little gaudy for me, but if they sound good, they just won't leave home. 
I'm having a problem with all these basshead cans, they seem to sacrifice lush musical mids and instead go for peaky highs.


IS THERE A CAN.... That does bass stupid well, but does not sacrifice the musicality in mids, or too treble peaky? I WAS going to pull the trigger on the DT770, but if mids are being sacrificed, I can't go for that and be happy. I already have the M-100's on their way to me and I know I'm gonna be missing my mids, just from the discussion page.

-.-' Never ending search continues. 

Might just go with the DT1350 and ZO combo for portable use. 

RPG says his combo with the ZO2.1 and Q40s has forward mids... So maybe look into that I guess.

I think you would need to find a darker headphone to get more forward mids I think.
post #3420 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post


RPG says his combo with the ZO2.1 and Q40s has forward mids... So maybe look into that I guess.
I think you would need to find a darker headphone to get more forward mids I think.

Maybe,

 

OH OH OH, the Dt 880 has really nice mids I think! They are not forward. But trust me... they have some MAGIC to them! My GAWD I love them mids xD can't w8 to TUBE THEM SUCKERS <3

 

ehm, still the Dt 880 does has some GREAT tight punchy Bass [the 600 ohm is the best] and a Z02 might be too loose imo. I have a cMoy with a Opa2227 and I like it alot :D. Trust me if the song has some BUMB they B U M P BUMP! But the Sub bass it slighty rolled off... the mid bass is the real nice part sadly... although again my cMoy BB does help alot :3 

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