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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


If you can hold out a little longer, there are a few more interesting options:

 

AKG Tiesto K267

Yamaha PRO 500

Velodyne vTrue

 

No one has any idea how they sound yet, but the potential exists for them to be very good

I'm interested in those options also.  But there seems to be very little info on the vTrue.  I'm assuming bassy but I have PRO 500 at the top of my list.  Impressions!

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Pro 900 is the almighty Hype King... please demo the Pro 900 b4 u buy them. They are 100% a love or hate can... 

 

PRO 900? I thought that title belongs to the M50? biggrin.gif

 

Jokes aside.. yes, it was a joke!.. I love my PRO 900s to bits. Now if only I could convince myself to spring another 150 on a Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable. ph34r.gif

post #3033 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

 

PRO 900? I thought that title belongs to the M50? biggrin.gif

 

Jokes aside.. yes, it was a joke!.. I love my PRO 900s to bits. Now if only I could convince myself to spring another 150 on a Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable. ph34r.gif

xD Yea they both come pretty close, seeing as the M50 is cheaper it can be Hype Queen <3, but exactly as you said you LOVE IT TO pieces... from what I've heard it's like that... LOVE or HATE. I never see to many ppl who in the middle with them lol

 

Also... $150 for Cables on a $300 can... I would first look at moddifying your DAP or Amp b4 u got into cables as truth be told the differeance they make isn't enough to justify the price [at least in the $300 Range imo] if you on the other hand had some Tesla T1's HE-6 or HD 800's than yea maybe better cables lol

 

But your gear is only as strong as the weakest link, so if ur DAP or your Amp are lower in quality than your cans, new cables won't help u to much :x

post #3034 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


If you can hold out a little longer, there are a few more interesting options:

 

AKG Tiesto K267

Yamaha PRO 500

Velodyne vTrue

 

No one has any idea how they sound yet, but the potential exists for them to be very good

 

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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

I'm interested in those options also.  But there seems to be very little info on the vTrue.  I'm assuming bassy but I have PRO 500 at the top of my list.  Impressions!

If the vTrue are anything like the vPulse IEMs you'll love them. I hate the vPulse on how their ear cushion has a molding line right in the middle. It rubs the inside of my ears (which obviously are sensitive) so it gives them some irritation but the bass on those IEMs for $100 is better than that DreBeat crap for $300.

 

 

 

(This is one of my first reviews)

 

 

Moving on. Just got my FiiO E17 Alpen in and it's charger. I'm also burning in these Pro700 MK2 right at the moment on some Blue Foundation Zed's Dead remix and other Dubstep. :D
 
 
First impression and features: 
 
Fiio Alpen E17 model
 
Specs:
Specification
 
● Output Power:
  >250mW (16Ω Loaded );
  >30mW (300Ω Loaded)
● Headphone Impedance
   Range: 16 Ω ~ 300 Ω
● SNR:
   ≥109dB(A weight)[AMP];
   ≥104dB(A weight)[DAC]
● Distortion:
   <0.001%(AMP);
   <0.007%(DAC)
● Support sampling rate(Max)*:
   96K/24bit [USB] ;
   192K/24bit [SPDIF]
● Frequency response:
   10Hz~100KHz[AMP];
   10Hz~20KHz[DAC]
● Battery capacity, charging
   time and using time:
   1500Mah/3.5H/15H
● Size: 96mm x 55mm x 15.2mm
● Weight: 112g
 
*(Note: Using AUX as a transfer of DSR runs at 48K FRQ and 16 bit sampling though not listed on the site.)
 
Features: 
 
The FiiO E17 is a tank! It's a little fatter than I expected but so far an amazing DAC/amp that has tons of features! Coaxial, SPDIF, AUX, a docking port (L3 & L7), USB mini, LO Bi-pass, reset, hold, input, menu, plus & minus buttons. So that's all of it's ports and buttons in a nut shell. You can increase/decrease the bass and treb along with the balance. It also has a gain, usb charge on/off, System FW Version (Not sure on this. Anyone enlighten me?), system default, volume mem, max vol, sleep.
 
First impression:
 
It's got a slightly hefty weight but definitely feels solid. I wish the bands that came with the FiiO were longer. (It comes with two stretching bands to secure the DAC/amp to your source.) My source is my Razr Maxx phone but I think I may invest in a Sansa Clip or a like just for this. As stated before very solid design. I would recommend the L7 docking cable as it would more than likely sound better. Currently I am using the 3.5mm - 1/4" male to male cable it comes with. As stated before it charges via mini-USB cable. The LCD screen is VERY sexy on this device. Colors are gorgeous, very bright, and clear to read. Legible if you will. The E17 comes with a set of six little non-slick feet that you can use at your discretion. The E17 also comes with all appropriate cables: I.E. 3" 3.5mm M2M cable and a USB 2.0 to mini-USB charging/computer tether cable. FiiO has even gone to the length of adding a nice velveteen like protective pouch and two screen protectors. I just thought that was a nice little touch on their part. :thumb:
 
 
Aesthetically: Very pleasing.
SQ: So far pretty darn good... :D
Build Quality: Absolutely amazing. Like a tank!
Portability: Has some weight and thickness but is definitely portable is your not a wimp.
Features: Tons of features.... TONS. Coaxial, SPDIF, AUX, etc.
Power: This amp has a good amount of power that should drive most headphones very easily. I don't know how a set of HiFi Man 400 will sound on this amp being a very difficult amp to run but my Q701 (also difficult) sound great. [Though who uses Q701 for portable use!?!?!?] Just stating that these can drive most headphones without any problems or a second thought.
 
Overall: Very pleasing. I honestly think my only complain could be that I wish they had bigger bands to secure it with. But.... me being me. I'll probably pick up a Live Strong band and substitute the FiiO band for that.
 
Audio Technica ATH-Pro 700MK2
 
SPECIFICATIONS
TYPE Closed-back Dynamic
DRIVER DIAMETER 53 mm
FREQUENCY RESPONSE 5 - 35,000 Hz
MAXIMUM INPUT POWER 3,500 mW
SENSITIVITY 106 dB/mW
IMPEDANCE 38 ohms
WEIGHT 305 g
CONNECTOR 3.5 mm mini-stereo, gold-plated
ACCESSORY INCLUDED Screw-on 1/4" (6.3 mm) adapter, detachable 1.2 m coiled cable (max. 3.0m), detachable 1.2 m straight cable, carrying pouch

 

 

Features:
 
The ATH-PRO700MK2 (Pro700 for short) is also build like a tank. Though all of it is made of plastic, it is very sturdy and strong plastic; industrial grade if you will. The cans also come with a 1.2m straight and 1.2m - 3m coiled cable; both of which screw into the left can itself and I find a very nice feature. As with the E17 these come with a protective carrying case, this one being made of leather. Also included is a 3.5 - 6.3mm jack (1.4" to 1/2" jack adapter).
 
First Impression:
 
The headband is very comfortable while the ear cups are no so much. The large 53mm drivers extend outward in the middle and I find that they rub against my ears in an awkward fashion. I also find that there isn't enough cushion on the pads themselves. The protrusive drivers and lack of cushion factor thrown together with the fact that these cans are "clampy" might be irritating to some. I thought they were while my wife said they were just fine. If you can get past the initial uncomfortable stage then these phones will please very many people. I like to think of my first impression with these much like my impression I had with the AKG Q701. The headband and loose cups was so irritating at first but after I got used to it I was able to enjoy the fullness of the headphones.
 
These headphones can bring some nice bass but at a cost. After hooking up my E17 to my O2 amp and then to my headphones. I turned up the bass on the E17 full and my source to make sure I could see how much bass these cannons kicked. Well at lower dB you hear it but you don't "feel" it. (My dad would argue the only true way to feel bass if a 15" sub-woofer.) Well I decided to have some fun and crank up the volume... WOW... My head literally shook. The drives in these cans were rattling on my head. It honestly felt like my headphones, mind you clampy ones, were about to shake off my head. AMAZING. The sound stage isn't as recessed as I thought it might be in a closed back setup partly due to them being monitor headphones.
 
The Pro700 does have emphasized bass/lows though not as much as I would like but it also has higher trebs/highs and decent mids with good mid bass. (At least to my ears despite what the graph may say. ------(Insert graph)----- Comparing Don Felder's All Of You using the Pro700 vs. my Q701, obviously the Q701 trump in this field. But that's not the point. The Pro700 are much louder than the 701 series partly due to closed vs. open back but also the way the headphones are wired. I mean MUCH louder. So I find that no matter the situation the Pro700 can block out any noises. Not only do they isolate fairly well when no sound is being played, but furthermore I imagine they can drive and drown out any background noises such as people talking, screaming, or even 16 foot monitors blaring in the back if you're a DJ.
 
Mind you these are Monitor Headphones. Meaning they are made for a more precise feel and sound. I.E. Clarity. If you are looking for some knock your block off headphones in bass then I suggest the XB700 would be your choice. If you are more of a drum and bass or mid bass guy these would defiantly work in your case.
 
These headphones also do some crazy swiveling so it may take you about 10 minutes of playing with them to full understand or get the hang of it. They fold up in a million different directions, styles, layouts, etc. I find this useful because they can fit and contort to almost any head shape though I will warn you. If you have a big head stay clear! Again. IF YOUR HEAD IS A BOWLING BALL DON'T BUY THESE! I mention this just because they are clampy for my head, 7 1/8" which is by no means large. I will post in about a week after I burn these in. (which I plan to do while I sleep. :D)
 
 
 
 
 
I hope this gives you some idea to how these two devices might suit your situation. All in all I recommend the E17 to anyone looking for a decent and someone portable DAC/amp combo. For 150 USD I don't know you can beat it. It drives headphones well, has it's own variant of an EQ, and even provides great transfer rates depending on the input device. It also works great as a paper weight.
 
As for the Pro700. I would not recommend these to everyone. Rather I would recommend them to people who DJ, love mids and mid bass, or are looking for good monitor headphones. These are very clear much as a good open back phone would be but add in a nice noise cancellation and block feature. I'd say these are great radio and other such profession headphones IMO. Mind you take anything I say with a grain of salt as always. 
 
 
 
 
Here is a graph of various styled headphones to give you an idea and comparison.
 
HFi 780s, XB700, Pro700, and DT770s.
 

 

 


Edited by NinjaSushi2 - 10/10/12 at 9:50pm
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Here is a graph of various styled headphones to give you an idea and comparison.
 
HFi 780s, XB700, Pro700, and DT770s.
 

 

 


The graph doesn't look right at all. 


http://en.goldenears.net/4623

This looks about right

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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post


The graph doesn't look right at all. 


http://en.goldenears.net/4623

This looks about right

You know I thought it looked off but I don't know enough to say different so. biggrin.gif! Thanks for helping. These phones sound great for liquid dubstep btw. atsmile.gif

 

post #3037 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post


The graph doesn't look right at all. 


http://en.goldenears.net/4623

This looks about right

 

Those aren't the pro700mk2s. Nobody has made a frequency graph of that headphone yet. 

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E17 or ZO2?
I am not sure which one to get... I will use use it portably most of the time.
The portability of the ZO is nice but not necessary.

How does the bass boost of the Zo compare to the E17?
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

E17 or ZO2?
I am not sure which one to get... I will use use it portably most of the time.
The portability of the ZO is nice but not necessary.
How does the bass boost of the Zo compare to the E17?

No sure. The E17 is a nice DAC/AMP combo for 150ish. The ZO2 is a subwoofer or so they say. I'm am not sure how well it amplifies or even drives any pair of headphones but I can tell you the E17 is very nice. Treble and Bass control, digital to analog converter, and it comes with TONS of options. I'd say a decent EQ app on your phone or source with the added bass freq you can use on the E17 will do you fine. 

 

 

 

 

Quote:
MSRP $119.95 USD
Free shipping worldwide / 1-year limited warranty
60-day money back guarantee
Sounds like you could always trial the ZO2 and enjoy it for awhile. If it's not enough money back guarantee.
 
 
Edit: whoops! lol I superscript the entire paragraph. <facepalm>DOH!</facepalm>

Edited by NinjaSushi2 - 10/11/12 at 11:04am
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Well the ZO is definitely an amp... I know that for sure. The thing with the e17 is Ive heard it starts to distort when you really start upping the bass...
post #3041 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

Now if only I could convince myself to spring another 150 on a Moon Audio Blue Dragon cable. ph34r.gif

 

Don't fall for it!  Any difference in sound quality perceived from a cable upgrade is placebo effect.

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Originally Posted by DeanKeith View Post

 

Don't fall for it!  Any difference in sound quality perceived from a cable upgrade is placebo effect.

I agree dont fall for cable upgrades i say the only upgrade you can make to a cable is usnig silver cables and any cheap silver cable able you can get your hands on is more then enough and you wanot ever need to change

 

there only a very slight diffrence almost not notciable

 

its proven silver cables have less resiestiance then copper and are less prone to breaking

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Hello guys...

 

What would be your best pick from these two budget over-ear basshead cans? 

 

*JVC HA-M5X

*Panasonic HTF600

 

I'm leaning towards the Panasonic since they look more "serious" and have a single sided cord. Don't like the XB500 cause they are insanely huge. 

 

I just want some cheap/bassy over-ears until I can get my hands on the new M100 or the Custom One Pro.

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I personally did not like the HTF600s. Never heard the acclaimed bass and also didnt like the poor build quality. But YMMV

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I've heard the JVC HA-M5X they have lots of bass and are a little uncomfortable, the wires going to each side is very thin and you have to be careful with them. Lots of posts her about broken cables on these.

 

Good review on the 5X vs XB500:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/557002/jvc-ha-m5x-another-budget-bassheads-review

 

I'd go with the XB500 if I was choosing one.

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