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Originally Posted by Trae View Post

Meh, hardstyle all sounds the same to me. They all use basically the same bassline, or at least a variation of it, the same bpm, and the overall "signature", for lack of a better word, of the songs are presented in the same fashion. It sounds neat when you hear it for the first time, but when you start listening to other songs, it starts to become redundant and boring. 

 

The same lol?

 

Then tell me how this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWzjJSvWsk

sounds the same as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFy7NsI9vMk

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQpkb-hdczI

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q39EmlEtbJI

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3Mn9OJSGE

 

This is all examples of hardstyle tracks. They do follow similar track structure with an intro/break/climax(sometimes anticlimax)/outro part though, that and the hardstyle kicks and reverse bass lines and the bpm is what defines hardstyle. Early hardstyle used to be 135 bpm btw, these days it's mostly 150.

 

There's very different styles though, early hardstyle was mostly reverse basslines and minimal use of any vocals with mostly screeches and random noises, then there's "raw/dark" and the more uplifting/euphoric side and hands-up and this summer it's been a lot popstyle tracks with lots singalong kind of vocals.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/6/12 at 1:49pm
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They may not sound the same but seem to have the same rhythmic beat.  The 1,2 count.  biggrin.gif but some of it is cool I do have to admit.  


Edited by Hawaiiancerveza - 10/6/12 at 11:00pm
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I get what you're saying, but the songs you listed sound similar to me in a more general perspective. I used the term "same" loosely, as in the overall picture, but it's that picture that defines what hardstyle is. The structure of hardstyle is pretty rigid, so the majority of the songs within the genre tend to deviate from its origins less than other genres like house music. This is coming from a guy that listens to chillouts most of the time, so don't take my words too seriously tongue.gif

 

Anyways, I came across the weirdest dubstep song I've ever heard: Eiffel 65 - Blue (J.Rabbit & Obsidian Remix) It sounds so horrible, but the beat sounds very unique. 

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The first Hardstyle song RPG posted started getting real nice around 3:00. Good stuff man, listening to the rest now.

 

I've always been really into DnB & Dubstep with some Electro House thrown in. DnB albums really are an experience though.

 

Personal favorite right now:

 


Edited by TehJam - 10/6/12 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

No bassheads in here listening to hardstyle? Suppose it's not nearly as popular genre in US as europe though as there's barely no hardstyle events over there. Basshead & hardstyle goes like hand in hand but what sets it apart from for example the dubstep genre is that here it's about the SOUND & TEXTURE of the bass and it's a whole science behind it how to create a hardstyle kick which is very difficult to get a good sounding kick. This genre also traditionally uses a lot of reverse bass which sounds a bit different than your typical bass line.

 

Here's some examples:

 

 

Subscribe to above chan if you like euphoric, melodic & emotional hardstyle. :P


I do. beerchug.gif

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I can only listen to hardstyle, and most "techno" for a short period before I start getting tired of that "womp womp womp" beat... Maybe it's because I'm a drummer, but I just need some variety in the beat.

 

My current favorite Electronica group is Infected Mushroom.

 

Here are some examples of some of my favorite tracks (not necessarily basshead tracks, but they provide a full range of fidelity in most every track).

 

I made all these links enable HD for better SQ, hopefully your bandwidth can handle it and YouTube isn't being stingy:

 

Infected Mushroom - The Messenger 2012 : this song is over 10 minutes long, but it has so many twists and turns you NEVER get bored

 

Infected Mushroom - Nevermind : this is their version of DubStep... I personally think this makes Skrillex sound like an amateur

 

Infected Mushroom - Pink Nightmares : there is an official (and disturbing) video of this song on the VEMO channel, but I prefer this longer mix

 

Infected Mushroom - Becoming Insane : another favorite of mine from a previous album

 

Okay, I could go on and on, but I don't want to overkill... so here are my other favorites when it comes to electronic music (if anyone requests favorites of mine, I'd be happy to make more links):
 

  • BT (this guy is a sonic genius, but his mixes are bit on the sibilant side)
  • The Crystal Method (the older the better)
  • Propellerheads (wish they had made more than 1 album)
  • Juno Reactor (the old stuff... new stuff is a bit "out there")
  • Skrillex (yes, even though I dissed him above, I still like his stuff, but it is starting to all sound too alike)

Edited by DeanKeith - 10/6/12 at 8:13pm
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How many db of bass boost does the ZO2 add?

EDIT: Also how does the bass boost on the e17 compare to the zo2?
Edited by Prakhar - 10/6/12 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by Prakhar View Post

How many db of bass boost does the ZO2 add?
EDIT: Also how does the bass boost on the e17 compare to the zo2?

 

It was measured without any headphone load I think and I think ZO2.1 had like 16dB boost and ZO2.3 I think like 14dB, the ZO can go bassier for sure. I only measured ZO2.1 personally:

 

 

Would probably look slightly different if some load would be used.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/7/12 at 12:36am
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Originally Posted by esmBOS View Post

I think the Fiio E17 is a very underestimated basshead amp! 2 step increments all the way up to +10dp bass is just ridiculous and will make (almost) anything rumble!

Ive been eyeballing it for months. I also bought it because I wanted a DAC that doubled as an amp. I love my O2 but having a dac for my xbox will come in very handy lol. I use the astro mix amp for DH and with a dac I can make footsteps louder.

Also it's an incredible amp/dac for portable use. I use an EQ app on my DROID razor but I'm hoping I can double the effectiveness and quality with the e17. That and I was afraid the phone wouldn't power the pro 700MKII enough and the O2 is way too big for portable and too small for desktop only. Rather odd Imo but very clean and cold amp. Well worth the money. Loud as a freight train too!


Anyone know how the E17 stacks up?
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

No bassheads in here listening to hardstyle? Suppose it's not nearly as popular genre in US as europe though as there's barely no hardstyle events over there. Basshead & hardstyle goes like hand in hand but what sets it apart from for example the dubstep genre is that here it's about the SOUND & TEXTURE of the bass and it's a whole science behind it how to create a hardstyle kick which is very difficult to get a good sounding kick. This genre also traditionally uses a lot of reverse bass which sounds a bit different than your typical bass line.

 

Here's some examples:

   

 

Subscribe to above chan if you like euphoric, melodic & emotional hardstyle. :P

i love hardstyle, in other places is also called hard dance

these 2 are my fav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZIkk0eCm-c&feature=plcp

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euA3zfxoIQ&feature=plcp


Edited by sid12345678910 - 10/7/12 at 4:12am
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The 2nd isn't hardstyle though. Hard dance is a collective term that includes Hardtrance, Hardstyle and Hardcore as one big genre. The 2nd track is a happy hardcore track.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/7/12 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


fyi, listened to both and IMO the SQ of the UE6000 handily bests the Downtown.  It's not that the Downtown is a bad headphone, it's just that the UE6000 is really something special at its price point.

 

That sounds like good news, bro. I'm really interested in getting the UE6000 now. Btw, are they out in your area? I'm not sure when it'll be hitting Asia. :/ The UE900 IEM is almost here, though.

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

 

The same lol?

 

Then tell me how this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWzjJSvWsk

sounds the same as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFy7NsI9vMk

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQpkb-hdczI

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q39EmlEtbJI

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3Mn9OJSGE

 

This is all examples of hardstyle tracks. They do follow similar track structure with an intro/break/climax(sometimes anticlimax)/outro part though, that and the hardstyle kicks and reverse bass lines and the bpm is what defines hardstyle. Early hardstyle used to be 135 bpm btw, these days it's mostly 150.

 

There's very different styles though, early hardstyle was mostly reverse basslines and minimal use of any vocals with mostly screeches and random noises, then there's "raw/dark" and the more uplifting/euphoric side and hands-up and this summer it's been a lot popstyle tracks with lots singalong kind of vocals.

 

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

No bassheads in here listening to hardstyle? Suppose it's not nearly as popular genre in US as europe though as there's barely no hardstyle events over there. Basshead & hardstyle goes like hand in hand but what sets it apart from for example the dubstep genre is that here it's about the SOUND & TEXTURE of the bass and it's a whole science behind it how to create a hardstyle kick which is very difficult to get a good sounding kick. This genre also traditionally uses a lot of reverse bass which sounds a bit different than your typical bass line.

 

I like Hardstyle, and some Melodic Hardstyle is really awesome.

 

The track Psycho by Chris One sounds like a quasi-Terrorcore track. I love most things Hardcore Techno, although some Noisecore can be a bit annoying. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post

 

That sounds like good news, bro. I'm really interested in getting the UE6000 now. Btw, are they out in your area? I'm not sure when it'll be hitting Asia. :/ The UE900 IEM is almost here, though.


Apple stores have them online and in stock as well as at listening stations in the US.  Did a comparison to Momentum, posted on Momentum thread.  The UE6000 blew them away!  IMO, of course.

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Apple stores have them online and in stock as well as at listening stations in the US.  Did a comparison to Momentum, posted on Momentum thread.  The UE6000 blew them away!  IMO, of course.

 

Sounds good, I really need to test these UE6000, I'm slightly worried about bass quantity, I'd really wanna keep the quantity levels of Q40 but perhaps ZO2.1 can help me, there. They are nowhere to be seen around europe yet and M100 impressions might be available soon too, I have a feeling M100 will be much more fit for me though with slightly more bass and slightly better soundstage with similar kind of mids & highs to UE6000. 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 10/7/12 at 9:33am
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