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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

really??!! wow thats cool. I thought that the new m50x was sonically the same. Atleast thats what research told me


Quoting Tyll:

 

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  • Audio Technica ATH-M50x - Yes! Here's a perfect example of taking a good headphone, giving it a little love, and re-issuing the model with some nice sonic improvements. Overall FR has been given a slightly warm tilt, and a good bit of the stridence (the one serious problem with the M50) has been reduced. This is a good headphone made even better in this refresh...yupper, it'll be reviewed soon.


Don't expect night and day difference, it's differences that hobbyist headphone enthusiasts might pick up, some might only notice in direct A/B comparison and the average joe most likely won't think it's enough of a difference to feel a difference. As usual in this hobby, it depends on who you ask. Me as a mastering engineer easily picks up 1dB differences, in fact it happens producers may EQ like 0.5dB boost in the highs on a lead/vocal and I will pick it up. Would I expect the Average Joe to notice that... NOPE...

Trained ears will pick up slight nyances better than others, some people doesn't notice differences with a padswap for example, I've yet to encounter a padswap that didn't involve a slight sonic change...


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/19/14 at 10:22am
post #11192 of 11259
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

really??!! wow thats cool. I thought that the new m50x was sonically the same. Atleast thats what research told me
I think it's because of the new pads.
post #11193 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

The #1 rated over ear headphones on this site is a horribly overrated fragile P.O.S that would just make you sad and confused.  The sound, the bass, the build....wow.

Holding those things in your hand is so different from the pictures. People still mention those as basshead friendly from time to time...amazing


There is a ton of crap hanging off the racks along with the good ones and you gotta listen to the same song on all of them to really see the quality of the driver. The build qualities are horrible except for items over 300 bucks. Even then.....you can still get shockingly bad crap.

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

It did? Lol, the first time I ever heard an M50 was at a guitar store back in the Philippines a few months back. To my recollection it was hardly a basshead-friendly headphone -- in fact, I thought it sounded a little balanced (but still a lot of fun). However, the pair I listened to was the ATH-M50 LE, or the silver ones. That, and I'm not exactly a basshead (haven't heard "true" basshead cans). I actually think the M50 is pretty good, but not exactly worth the money. That is, unless I had the money. 

Oh yeah, that SoB YouTuber...he's called UrAvgConsumer. Considering how much of a d'bag he is taking stuff from the net and saying it on his videos in a supposedly "knowledgeable" manner most definitely shows that he is, in fact, an average consumer. I mean, that's what most average people do, right? Take what people say on the net and say it to others to make himself sound knowledgeable. I watched a video of his reviewing the Studio 2.0, and I thought I was reading a review from some place like CNet being read by some n'a holding a pair in his hands. I don't even remember him putting it on and telling his audience what he thinks.

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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

The M50's aren't being recommended as much now as they used to about a year ago. At the time the hype started it was priced around $100-120, and there weren't a lot of competitors out there (or maybe people didn't know any competitors). But now people are finally coming to the realization that there are better alternatives.

IMO the m50's are one of the best built headphones for under $150. Sound-wise? Maybe not.
my akg's have better build and sound than those m50x's. Friend has em. Tried em.... Can't take bass. Doesn't sound as good as akg's. Doesn't feel quite as solid. The akg's? I can twist the headband to the left and right to 90 degree angles and not worry about it breaking. Plastic caps that stick out to protect driver housing, then a metal rim around the driver housing... And I can speak from experience that beats guy: beats are basshead cans. No doubt about that. You have a pair of basshead cans man, and didn't even know... Now granted they aren't that great of a bass head can, but the studios I've tried give a satisfying (if not very distorted... Don't know why Dr. Dre decided to put such a craptastic driver in a casing then think its a good idea to give it a crappy internal dac and overpowered amp for the driver its pushing...)thump. The new studio 2.0's are decent when I tried them, but from what I remember they don't get as loud as the originals... Plus, for under 150$ you can buy used v-moda lp's and m-80's, ha-m55's which I've dropped down 30 stair steps onto hard floor and they survived (my school has two levels, and the second level is like... 18 feet up off the ground.), also you can buy sol republic (completely disregarding sound quality. Just build.) which are quite good in the build quality department... And the m50's... Don't know what they'd be used for to be honest. I wouldn't use them for basshead cans, nor would I use them for studio use.
post #11194 of 11259
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I've yet to encounter a padswap that didn't involve a slight sonic change...

 

Me too. Kinda love that. It's the easiest level of hacking a can and it reaps clear rewards depending on what your trying to improve.

post #11195 of 11259
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


Quoting Tyll:



Don't expect night and day difference, it's differences that hobbyist headphone enthusiasts might pick up, some might only notice in direct A/B comparison and the average joe most likely won't think it's enough of a difference to feel a difference. As usual in this hobby, it depends on who you ask. Me as a mastering engineer easily picks up 1dB differences, in fact it happens producers may EQ like 0.5dB boost in the highs on a lead/vocal and I will pick it up. Would I expect the Average Joe to notice that... NOPE...


Trained ears will pick up slight nyances better than others, some people doesn't notice differences with a padswap for example, I've yet to encounter a padswap that didn't involve a slight sonic change...
I'm kinda jealous lol. I can pick up like a 2-4 db difference just by putting a pair on, but a .5 db difference?... Not quite there yet
post #11196 of 11259
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

my akg's have better build and sound than those m50x's. Friend has em. Tried em.... Can't take bass. Doesn't sound as good as akg's. Doesn't feel quite as solid. The akg's? I can twist the headband to the left and right to 90 degree angles and not worry about it breaking. Plastic caps that stick out to protect driver housing, then a metal rim around the driver housing... And I can speak from experience that beats guy: beats are basshead cans. No doubt about that. You have a pair of basshead cans man, and didn't even know... Now granted they aren't that great of a bass head can, but the studios I've tried give a satisfying (if not very distorted... Don't know why Dr. Dre decided to put such a craptastic driver in a casing then think its a good idea to give it a crappy internal dac and overpowered amp for the driver its pushing...)thump. The new studio 2.0's are decent when I tried them, but from what I remember they don't get as loud as the originals... Plus, for under 150$ you can buy used v-moda lp's and m-80's, ha-m55's which I've dropped down 30 stair steps onto hard floor and they survived (my school has two levels, and the second level is like... 18 feet up off the ground.), also you can buy sol republic (completely disregarding sound quality. Just build.) which are quite good in the build quality department... And the m50's... Don't know what they'd be used for to be honest. I wouldn't use them for basshead cans, nor would I use them for studio use.

LOL. They are? I haven't heard the Studios in a long time, but I don't think I want to. Then again, the Studio 2.0s might be interesting. Do they still run without batteries? I tried to use a pair at a store and they didn't work somehow. Knowing Beats, they probably don't run without battery power.

 

The Pros that I own are fake, so they have crappy pads. The result is a really f'd up SQ. You've got weak bass (strange for a Beats pair), weak subbass that doesn't really reach "down there," and an abnormally harsh upper midrange/lower treble area. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I guess it's the pads since they sounded a lot better with different ones (which I can't attach properly to the pair).

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

LOL. They are? I haven't heard the Studios in a long time, but I don't think I want to. Then again, the Studio 2.0s might be interesting. Do they still run without batteries? I tried to use a pair at a store and they didn't work somehow. Knowing Beats, they probably don't run without battery power.

The Pros that I own are fake, so they have crappy pads. The result is a really f'd up SQ. You've got weak bass (strange for a Beats pair), weak subbass that doesn't really reach "down there," and an abnormally harsh upper midrange/lower treble area. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I guess it's the pads since they sounded a lot better with different ones (which I can't attach properly to the pair).
lol! The real beats pros! I'd describe them the same way you described the fakes!... Minus the weak bass part.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 4/19/14 at 12:26pm
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Has anyone tried Audio Technica's WS55X ?
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

Has anyone tried Audio Technica's WS55X ?
they look like they'd be decent for the price.
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

they look like they'd be decent for the price.
They look really ugly to be honest
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

They look really ugly to be honest
In pictures they look nice lol... Oh, and I was looking online, and found the v-moda vamp verza... http://v-moda.com/vamp/ why is it 600$ for only 150 mW per channel at 32 ohms? My e11 can push more than that can... And get an e17 with the dac, and you push more power, have the same good looks, have a built in eq, and all the other features lol. I just found it to be overpriced by about 400-440$.
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

Has anyone tried Audio Technica's WS55X ?

 

 

These?

Light, mildly comfy. 

Will play middle and upper of the low end (not sub-bass...45Hz and below ) Tuned to emphasize bass a bit. Out of a regular un amped dap these might be great. With an amp they will hit their ceiling kinda fast on the bass side.

post #11203 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post





These?
Light, mildly comfy. 
Will play middle and upper of the low end (not sub-bass...45Hz and below ) Tuned to emphasize bass a bit. Out of a regular un amped dap these might be great. With an amp they will hit their ceiling kinda fast on the bass side.
except the fiio x5... Still can't believe that a dap puts out more juice than my e11 lol.
post #11204 of 11259
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


lol! The real beats pros! I'd describe them the same way you described the fakes!... Minus the weak bass part.

Well, actually, that's exactly what the real Beats Pros sound: what I said on the fakes, with deep, strong bass which does reach down low. 

Who knew mere earpads would make such a difference to the SQ?

 

And to think, you had to pay $400 for a pair of the real Pros instead of paying $150 for a fake pair and the original pads. I don't have the original pads yet, though; I'll try to beg my dad to get me a pair. Oh yeah, I paid about $125 for my pair.

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

Well, actually, that's exactly what the real Beats Pros sound: what I said on the fakes, with deep, strong bass which does reach down low. 
Who knew mere earpads would make such a difference to the SQ?

And to think, you had to pay $400 for a pair of the real Pros instead of paying $150 for a fake pair and the original pads. I don't have the original pads yet, though; I'll try to beg my dad to get me a pair. Oh yeah, I paid about $125 for my pair.

Although a popular whipping boy amongst bandwagon of beats haters, Beats Pro, Studio 2.0 & mixr's for that matter all easily hold their own and IMO are very decent cans indeedy.

As for nice bass slam - my old Detox Pro's still cut the mustard and when EQ'd with my Fiio E17 - it's a hefty bass slam to the face for sure - and these things are solidly built to last a zombie apocalypse - I reckon mankind's savior to zombie annihilation will be to thwart these meat bags with a hefty slam of bass - blow them clean apart I reckon..?





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One thing I won't argue over, is the hefty pricing of beats - these pictured Detox Pro's cost me a wallet beat down of £400 GBP! eek.gif Do I regret it? Hell no - they're a lot of fun and will outlive me to be passed down to my son and no doubt his sons beerchug.gif

Enjoying my new SONY MDR-XB1000's as my latest bass can, with ordered JVC HA-SZ2000-E's looking to be with me this Tuesday, which going off Hawaiibadboy's review - could be a bass event in itself...

...you could say, my about to be owner expectations of this particular can is sky high to experience killer subsonic bass lows... basshead.gifsmily_headphones1.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 4/20/14 at 10:06am
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