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post #10711 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

 I just covered 1 hole leaving 1 open. Bass is audibly similar but no pounding of cups or vibration on pads. Sounds like Onkyo hf300 or AKG 545. Good bass but just short of impact. 
2 holes is apparently ideal though as many as 3 were suggested. The vibration was most likely due to 50Hz and below performance. I will go back to 2 holes since that has quite a lot of impact but not enough to interrupt the early mids.

I will open them up one last time for a return to 2 holes. tomorrow....
oh, sorry lol. Forgot to specify that I was talking bout the 55's. But that's pretty cool that you now have another fantastic bass can! The akai's are really beautiful looking, and now they impact with detail? That's a perfect combo right there.
post #10712 of 11259
I found the least creative name ever. A headphone carrying case making company... Named v-mota. Lol. V-mota. Such originality. Looks nothing like v-moda. Lol. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ILHWZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1396717883&sr=8-6&pi=SL75
post #10713 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

These are from 2 hours ago. I gave up hunting but she got a new mirror so i asked to stop at this place. Limited selection compared to other EDIONS

 

The sz of course kicked the **** out of everybody

 

The 400 would not take my amp or slope. POS ...priced as such

 

 

 

 

Me jacking in

 

The 3rd red ones down from left are the Pro700mk2

 

 

 

XB600

 

 

Those XB600 make the JVC 55 feel like sturdy headphones...they were not anywhere near the 77's or the sz. 

 

To the OP

 

Nothing on that list is on the level of the 77's if you have an amp. I actually think an amp is just widening the gap. For overall sound the DT770 would be better but for a "V" curve with thunder bass nothing on your list dances with the 77's

 

Man there is a TON of BASS **** and I mean quality when I say ****. They just pre-tune a mud pusher and slap BASS on the box.

 

Pro700mk2 are not basshead cans. That's a good thing depending who you are but I tried them for the 5th time at least today and they are well made relative to other similar priced cans and do have a nice sound but the bass is not impactful and it will not go to there.

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

You ever heard the Akai. I didn't think so. 

That Akai with 2 diaphram holes open hits harder than and sounds clearer than the Q40. 40mm v.s. 50mm

I was saying since Feb 20th (ish) that the Akai were the HDH50. Now 5 weeks later that is becoming clear to folks. Let me explain that I don't type for the joy of it. 

 

1. M-Audio is going to open those 2 holes and it will make everybody happy because it slams and sounds crystal clear. Beautiful. Who with a singapore ip and closing their mail with "Cheers" could that have been telling me to mod that driver....hmmmm??

 

2. M-Audio releases the same configured driver as the Akai which is a studio can.  Wonder why a scheduled March 4th date or release (according to the rep in the vid)...wonder what's going on? ....Maybe the decision of what they are going to release is all about profit and which version will get them the most of that...profit. 

 

I never opened a can and my JVC do not reflect a benefit to diaphram porting. This guy sure knew what the **** he was talking about. These are bigger louder and deeper big brothers of you beloved Q40. Is this a mod or a preview of the M-Audio......That is the question.

 

These Akai sound better right now than everything on your list. 

I don't ask folks for opinions. I give em. Cuz I listen to eeeeeverything amped and boosted.

 

I don't think I could thank you enough for the help you've provided. I think I will end up going with the 77s if I can't afford the HDH50s...and if I can I'll definitely go with the SZ2000s as who can resist drivers made out of carbon nano-tubes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it. :)

 

By the way, did modding the drivers void your warranty on the HDH50s? If so I'll might have to pass on those.

 

 

Thanks everyone else for the help as well, I'll have to try the others that were recommended as well...but I have a feeling the 77x/SZ2000 will win me over as the JVC earbuds I have do have some nice thump and very good sound quality for $15.

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Question guys. Im still loving my FXZ-200s for basshead IEMs but I work out A LOT and I have to re adjust these like every 45 seconds. they are just too damn big. Does anyone use the XBA-H3s to work out in? How are they? Any other basshead IEMs with just as much clarity and bass as the FXZs come to mind as good for working out? Thanks guys.

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I doubt the h3 would make a good workout pair. When it comes to workout headphones you normally have to sacrifice Sq for comfort/function
post #10716 of 11259
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

 

I don't think I could thank you enough for the help you've provided. I think I will end up going with the 77s if I can't afford the HDH50s...and if I can I'll definitely go with the SZ2000s as who can resist drivers made out of carbon nano-tubes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it. :)

 

By the way, did modding the drivers void your warranty on the HDH50s? If so I'll might have to pass on those.

 

 

Thanks everyone else for the help as well, I'll have to try the others that were recommended as well...but I have a feeling the 77x/SZ2000 will win me over as the JVC earbuds I have do have some nice thump and very good sound quality for $15.

 

You can get the HA-MR77X brand new for $59.95 in Adorama's official eBay store: click.

 

I'm a proud owner of both the 77's and the SZ thanks to Hawaii. I do have to warn you (as have all 77X owners including Hawaii) that the 77's have a sharp V frequency response (recessed midrange, shrill highs, tons of bass) which produces what I call a sink effect (as if the sound were coming from the drainage). However you can fix the sink effect easily with EQ.

 

Here is my unboxing and first impressions review of the JVC HA-SZ2000: click.

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Originally Posted by PocketSmiley View Post
 

 

You can get the HA-MR77X brand new for $59.95 in Adorama's official eBay store: click.

 

I'm a proud owner of both the 77's and the SZ thanks to Hawaii. I do have to warn you (as have all 77X owners including Hawaii) that the 77's have a sharp V frequency response (recessed midrange, shrill highs, tons of bass) which produces what I call a sink effect (as if the sound were coming from the drainage). However you can fix the sink effect easily with EQ.

 

Here is my unboxing and first impressions review of the JVC HA-SZ2000: click.


That's fine, if I do get these I'll fool around with my EQ to get the best sound. Thanks for the warning.

post #10718 of 11259
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

 

I don't think I could thank you enough for the help you've provided. I think I will end up going with the 77s if I can't afford the HDH50s...and if I can I'll definitely go with the SZ2000s as who can resist drivers made out of carbon nano-tubes? Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it. :)

 

By the way, did modding the drivers void your warranty on the HDH50s? If so I'll might have to pass on those.

 

 

Thanks everyone else for the help as well, I'll have to try the others that were recommended as well...but I have a feeling the 77x/SZ2000 will win me over as the JVC earbuds I have do have some nice thump and very good sound quality for $15.

 

Like I have said before ...thanks for the thanks but .....no thanks:D

 

This is your money.  I just get opinionated about ___v.s. ____ questions and answers that seem bizarre  to me.

 

I jack in and compare bass cans in real time (within seconds of one another) and can discern impact/vibe on pads/cups/your head quickly and if it's amp friendly or not

(on a basshead slope but this is a basshead thread so...)

 

the 77's are really nutz. For that price:confused:....and compared to other bass cans they slam way out of their price range. Fact is the cups will resonate and distort sound before the drivers but that's at the edges of safe listening levels. I listen at very high volume and only noted the 77's edge of clear bass after hearing the sz which hits a little harder and deeper.

 

The sz have been interrupted by the Akai mod which suddenly sound like the nicest overall cans I have ever heard. The sz would be another step up and of course you should here it first....like everything. 

 

 

 

 

 

JVC has not yet ****ed me so I can pretty much say you get more than what you pay for. 

 

Example The HA-M5X  v.s The HAM55X They look like and are almost identically labeled but they re-did it under the hood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They do more than cosmetic **** apparently (photo's of old 50mm cans courtesy of RPGwizard)

 

They changed a lot . I like that I do not like the 50mm XX's but they do actually change things with next gen versions...clearly.

 

 

The 77 are also angled grills with very small vents like the 55 but no diaphram vent and they slam. 57mm of bassy awesome. If you do get these and you have an amp you'll be quite pleased....If you like head slapping bass. 

post #10719 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

Like I have said before ...thanks for the thanks but .....no thanks:D

This is your money.  I just get opinionated about ___v.s. ____ questions and answers that seem bizarre  to me.

I jack in and compare bass cans in real time (within seconds of one another) and can discern impact/vibe on pads/cups/your head quickly and if it's amp friendly or not
(on a basshead slope but this is a basshead thread so...)

the 77's are really nutz. For that price:confused: ....and compared to other bass cans they slam way out of their price range. Fact is the cups will resonate and distort sound before the drivers but that's at the edges of safe listening levels. I listen at very high volume and only noted the 77's edge of clear bass after hearing the sz which hits a little harder and deeper.

The sz have been interrupted by the Akai mod which suddenly sound like the nicest overall cans I have ever heard. The sz would be another step up and of course you should here it first....like everything. 





JVC has not yet ****ed me so I can pretty much say you get more than what you pay for. 

Example The HA-M5X  v.s The HAM55X They look like and are almost identically labeled but they re-did it under the hood



















They do more than cosmetic **** apparently (photo's of old 50mm cans courtesy of RPGwizard)

They changed a lot . I like that I do not like the 50mm XX's but they do actually change things with next gen versions...clearly.


The 77 are also angled grills with very small vents like the 55 but no diaphram vent and they slam. 57mm of bassy awesome. If you do get these and you have an amp you'll be quite pleased....If you like head slapping bass. 
holy crap! How many ports were open on the original 5's??? Lol. I think I'm gonna cover up two of the driver ports and the one diaphragm port, then describe the sound carefully. I'll see if the 55's drivers are tuned like the 77's, but just have more ports opened. It would make sense. The 55's are called ultimate bass headband(lol. Yeah... Right.) and the 77's are called ultimate DJ headband. Don't dj's like to have a v-shaped response?... I want those cans right now to test.... Gosh darn.
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Going to take the Sz pill asap.

Add to my small collection to give a totally different sound to the rest vs having just one expensive can.

Thanks HWBB.

post #10721 of 11259
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 

Going to take the Sz pill asap.

Add to my small collection to give a totally different sound to the rest vs having just one expensive can.

Thanks HWBB.

 

Do you have an amp? <<<<MUST

Do you mind changing pads (some think it not necessary I do though. I like the vibrating pads like on the 77's)<<<Should

Do you listen to a lot of low end stuff

 

 

______________________________________________

 

 

 

If i had the chance to sell these and get back full of what i paid i wouldn't sell. Too unique

 

 

 

 

I ....emphasis on "I"can't be more pleased. It will slam the **** out of you and reach very very low beyond audible. The mids despite having a separate driver are odd. @PocketSmiley

can maybe speak to what to do. I listen to Hip hop primarily so it doesn't bother me....yet. I think a boosted mid should fix that via eq but i haven't even bothered yet because it's my zero point standard slam can. 

 

 

If you want a can that does everything  go away from these. 

 

If you want a low freq...very low freq set of cans that will boost to head slam and beyond  get em. If they will be your only can skip em. 

 

They are my primary can  emphasis on my:D

post #10722 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

Do you have an amp? <<<<MUST

Do you mind changing pads (some think it not necessary I do though. I like the vibrating pads like on the 77's)<<<Should

Do you listen to a lot of low end stuff

 

 

______________________________________________

 

 

 

If i had the chance to sell these and get back full of what i paid i wouldn't sell. Too unique

 

 

 

 

I ....emphasis on "I"can't be more pleased. It will slam the **** out of you and reach very very low beyond audible. The mids despite having a separate driver are odd. @PocketSmiley

can maybe speak to what to do. I listen to Hip hop primarily so it doesn't bother me....yet. I think a boosted mid should fix that via eq but i haven't even bothered yet because it's my zero point standard slam can. 

 

 

If you want a can that does everything  go away from these. 

 

If you want a low freq...very low freq set of cans that will boost to head slam and beyond  get em. If they will be your only can skip em. 

 

They are my primary can  emphasis on my:D


Yes, got a headphones amp and a speaker amp that I might re-cable them for balanced speaker taps. The SZ take about 1.5 Watts max which would be about 20% of the volume on my mini-speaker amp that I hook planars up to.

Yes, I listen to electronic music with a bass slant.


Edited by Lohb - 4/6/14 at 9:29pm
post #10723 of 11259
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post


Yes, got a headphones amp and a speaker amp that I might re-cable them for balanced speaker taps. The SZ take about 1.5 Watts max which would be about 20% of the volume on my mini-speaker amp that I hook planars up to.
Yes, I listen to electronic music with a bass slant.
... Wonder how that would thump at full volume... Harder than the e12 no doubt. See what it takes to distort. It'd be an interesting experiment.
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These akg k240's can be distorted by my e11 I found. I hooked them up to my old 80's stereo system with the 6.5mm jack, turned the thing all the way up leading into my e11, and found that the k240's distort at 6.5/8 volume... Granted that's loud as ****. Its almost as if I have two e11's hooked into each other. That stereo system is one loud mother. And then i dragged the eq sliders on the old stereo system to full bass boost, and i distorted the k240's at 5/8 volume... And even that's loud as ****. With just my regular portable player, i turn it all the way up, then turn the e11 all the way up and don't get any distortion from the k240's... I think I'll try and take a shot at the 55's tomorrow when my friend gives em back. I haven't distorted those to the point of crackly crap yet, so i think that the stereo might just do it. My computer, music player, etc haven't been able to. The 55's get a lot louder than my k240's, but I'm ok with that anyways. The k240's just sound way too good. Really addictive bass texture, and sound signature. I found the pads uncomfortable as i have extremely large ears that stick out quite far, so i had to double the space for my ears not to be in pain. I just stuffed cloth wrappings in between headphones and pads. Did really nothing to sound. Made them a little quieter due to my ears being further away from the drivers, but I'm okay with it. Just turn it up to compensate. I think i just rambled... Plus, since there is 3 classes of bassheads, i think that the k240's fit class one. The ones who want bass texture and detail. Fits the description nicely. 5 decibel bass boost? Yep. Slightly louder than mids and treble? Yep. Good enough for type two?... **** no. They tickle a little bit according to my sister, but all that time spent with the 55's has deafened my ability to feel those vibrations. I think the brain is wired to ignore the vibrations after it gets used to them... Kind of sad really... Oh, looking at graphs though, the k240's have 2-3 less decibels of bass than the ath-m50x. That still fits into the type one description of 4-8 db boost quite nicely.
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I need to wipe the Beyer Dt770's with Alpha Pads from my mind that were a page or so back....they looked amazing !

Reading the back-story on the Sz just now.... http://cdn.jvc.eu/szfxz/sz/interview.html

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