Edit: deleted this post. Not going to bother arguing with you.
Edited by White Lotus - 4/1/14 at 12:42am
Do you ever get eardrum pain or do you have any hearing loss ? You are right into the extreme bone shaking end of the spectrum.....
Just wonder....while I was tuning my Fostex T50RP I could not listen to cans for a few days as one tuning made the mids laser-like...(never mind the bass) and my eardrums were wasted.
My friends eardrums actually bled at one Massive Attack concert...
I suffered some hearing damage in Car audio. The sz's will leave my ears ringing for a while...everything kinda sounds like mmmmmmmmzzzzzzzzz for a while
what in the hell are you talking about? the 250 ohm version can be driven by a phone... 96 dB sensitivity is very high, just looking at the impedance number doesnt tell you anything. and whats this about the e11? the paperwork that comes with it will state that its good for up to 300 ohm, and with sensitive cans like the dt 770 the e11 will drive them to ear splitting volume, with the bass boost on and everything.
please define what you mean when you say the sound quality degrades, id love to hear it. what disservice are you talking about?
all ive written here is part of my personal experience, have you EVER heard a pair of dt 770s? have you ever tried them with an e11? where do you get all this stuff??
they recommend you drive cans of that impedance. they dont state that you cant do anything else. hell, malveaux once told me he uses his e11 to drive his 600 ohm dt 770s when on the go. you make me wish i had kept the e11 paperwork so that i could just take a picture for you.
let me elaborate about how wrong you are:
impedance is an electrical measurement that tells you how much an electrical appliance will resist the electric current (from wikipedia:"Electrical impedance is the measure of the opposition that a circuit presents to a current when a voltage is applied"). it is one of MANY things that effect how "easy" or "hard" a headphone will be to "drive".
sensitivity on the other hand, is a measurement thats mostly used in the sound industry. it measures output spl for a given frequency at a given voltage or current (usually 1kHz @ 1mW). meaning, it takes all considerations into account, including impedance and everything else, and just tells you how loud said headphone will get under (what should be) standard test conditions. 96 dB fot the dt 770s, 103 for the m-100s etc.
seeing as i understand all this, i can more or less tell what to expect of a headphone before i even get it (if correct specs are given). i dont need to abide by recommended specs, because i know what will or wont work - i understand the thought behind the numbers. all that aside, i can tell from experience, since i actually tried it myself and can vouch for this specific combo.
i recommend you stop thinking of headphones and amps as a set of do and dont rules. this is electricity were talking about, if for producing sound and if not. you cant look at numbers that mean nothing to you and deduct correct conclusions.
your turn to explain =]
Nobody is gonna delete your post....it's about bass ( I saw the word bass enough to satisfy my powerless self) I got no history with IEM but some folks do and they will surely be throwing good ideas at you.
I'm not much into IEMs but I can vouch for the "bassyness" of the Denon C300s. They might not be "balanced" in the sense that mids and highs are forward with supreme detail, but they do the job for most genres that I listen to which can vary from Rock, Drum n Bass to Salsa and Merengue and the bass is just... well, BIG!
Another entry recommended is the Yamaha EPH-100. You might search the boards for reviews and/or impressions and comparisons. Maybe some members have indeed compared them to IEMs you have already tried.
For a slightly bassy but a bit more balanced presentation, the Shure SE215 are usually a safe bet and can be found for $80 or less (similar pricing for the C300s as well.). None of these have hot highs as far as I'm aware. Those Yammies I only tried them for a few hours but I didn't really detect any sibilance (or bumped highs). The C300 and SE215 I currently own.
Good luck and welcome to the Basshead Club. :p
a. im not sure if youre being cynical or not.
b. thats a very long article from a source im not familiar with, so im not going to bother... i do not know everything, and i doubt ill have the knowledge to verify or challenge whats said.
thank you for recognizing your mistake, not everyone would have done that. just please dont state things as fact, if youre not sure that they are. i promise you im not the only one who got aggravated at that.
if youre interested (feel free to ignore if not), heres some stuff i do know, that correlates to fast/slow bass, and its relationship to the midrange:
fast/slow are not "scientific" terms. they sometimes mean different things to different people. when talking about bass, these terms usually refer (atleast as far as i know) to the time it takes for resonance to die down (or "decay" if you will).
all frequencies are connected via all sorts of reactions and circumstance such as masking effect, distortions, you name it.. "detail in bass coming from the midrange" sounds a little strange. understand that pure, singular sine waves rarely appear in music. every note is made of many sine waves together. so, messing with an equalizer in effect, does not only boost or cut the certain frequency one selects, the effect ripples and changes everything, even if just a little. for example, if you boost bass by alot, you may loose out on some of the midrange. its all connected. furthermore, musicians will often add some midrange "detail" that coincides with the bassline, or have several different basslines happening at the same time to add to the texture and complexity of their music (or whatever other reason).
and by the way. although all equalizers SHOULD sound the same (or rather, they shouldnt sound like anything), truth of the matter is, they just dont. different calibrations, programming, distortions... if you and i did the same thing on different equalizers, the end result wouldnt necessarily be the same.
I'm a fanboy....I love my J.V.C
Then I read this:
First perfect scored review I have ever seen
I'm not a fanboy.....I have a preferences ...apparently.
Honest question. Is this site run by, partly owned by, or run by a relative of the V-Moda people?
I like the M100 but they are like my SMS. Fun. The V-moda are very well made. My friends own them. I don't get the love. I am really really missing something here.
Anyway...that review on the front page of this site is embarrassing. IMO