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Ah, okay, I didn't see an amp in your profile so I wasn't sure if you had one. If you're going to get a Beyerdynamic, get the 250 ohm variant.
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Italic text are my replies.

 

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Originally Posted by ithehappy View Post
 

Umm, I don't remember the exact model number, but I have used a JVC with that 'XX' tagged on it before, while the whole sound quality was really nice, I was thumped by the bass! My Sony XB days are over I think, I will always be a huge bass fan (sub-bass, again) but I think that skull crashing thump is not my thing any more.

 

Probably the JVC HA-MR77x or MR55x. The former is hawaii's second most favourite can.

 

Hmm. I have put an eBay link in my previous post, if anyone have bought from them I would love to have some opinion.

Oh okay, got it. But I have an amp, a FiiO E11, which I use with my TV and Laptop, and for desktop, it has a Asus DGX installed.

 

This seller looks pretty legit. At least the seller seems more trustworthy than 90% of ebay sellers, that's for sure.

 

So I think I am making the move for the DT770. Just to confirm, it's sub-bass based right? Cause from the OP of this topic, I bought Shure SE215 last year, and it was literally the worst IEM I have ever used, then I found out it's main focus is on mid-bass or something! I am not an audiophile, so I do get confused with these terms, sorry :p

 

I listened to the DT-770 Pro-80 for a bit. Definite V-shaped sound signature which wasn't to my liking, but I hate emphasized treble so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Bass seemed to be pretty good when driven from my DX50 > Glacier though.

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Originally Posted by deciBel23 View Post

Ah, okay, I didn't see an amp in your profile so I wasn't sure if you had one. If you're going to get a Beyerdynamic, get the 250 ohm variant.
umm... Don't get the 250 ohm version. E11 won't drive that dt770 250 ohm worth crap. The e11 is only good until 150 ohms. After that, its all downhill. The reason I have one is because I don't think I'll be getting any really hard to drive cans for a few years... Because of my parents. E11 will have to do for now... Get the 80 ohm dt770. That's the only one you'll be able to drive with the e11... Unless you feel like buying a 120$ e12 or something...
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 3/31/14 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by ithehappy View Post

 

So I think I am making the move for the DT770. Just to confirm, it's sub-bass based right? Cause from the OP of this topic, I bought Shure SE215 last year, and it was literally the worst IEM I have ever used, then I found out it's main focus is on mid-bass or something! I am not an audiophile, so I do get confused with these terms, sorry :p

Whoops, I just glanced over this part when I originally read your reply. The SE-215 are actually more bass-heavy than the DT770 in my opinion. If you feel like the SE-215 weren't bass-heavy enough, you should really try to audition the DT770 in a store or something before you buy them. Hopefully someone else can weigh in on this, too.

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


umm... Don't get the 250 ohm version. E11 won't drive that dt770 250 ohm worth crap. The e11 is only good until 150 ohms. After that, its all downhill. The reason I have one is because I don't think I'll be getting any really hard to drive cans for a few years... Because of my parents. E11 will have to do for now... Get the 80 ohm dt770. That's the only one you'll be able to drive with the e11... Unless you feel like buying a 120$ e12 or something...

Are you sure? The 250 ohm version has a sensitivity of 96dB, which should be enough for the E11 to handle; unless I'm doing my math wrong, which I probably am. :p 

 

Edit: Oops, accidentally double posted. Mods forgive me!

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Originally Posted by deciBel23 View Post
 

Are you sure? The 250 ohm version has a sensitivity of 96dB, which should be enough for the E11 to handle; unless I'm doing my math wrong, which I probably am. :p 

 

Edit: Oops, accidentally double posted. Mods forgive me!

 

He's not sure, he is once again incorrectly guessing, and passing it off as fact.

 

The e11 drove my 250ohm DT770s just fine. It wasn't the loudest combination, but it was fine for normal listening, and flights.

 

And the SE-215 is an IEM, which I actually didn't mind. Had a good mid-bass thump to it, and a nice glimmer of 8-10k for detail. For the price, well worth it. Didn't like the cable, however, or the swivel-style attachments to the IEM.

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Originally Posted by deciBel23 View Post
 

Whoops, I just glanced over this part when I originally read your reply. The SE-215 are actually more bass-heavy than the DT770 in my opinion. If you feel like the SE-215 weren't bass-heavy enough, you should really try to audition the DT770 in a store or something before you buy them. Hopefully someone else can weigh in on this, too.

No no, I didn't say there was any lack of bass on SE215, but the bass was not of my liking / choice. As I said, I am not familiar with the terms you guys use, so to put it simply, SE215 provided bass in areas where I don't like it, but say on my XB90 the bass is exactly where I would like it to be, same goes for my V55. So I don't really know what 'type of bass' SE215 has, but it is the last thing I will try. That's why I need to make sure whether the DT770's bass is like that Shure's, I.E mid-bass I guess, or the one I am looking for, I.E sub-bass.

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Superlux 662 is a close clone for DT770....and in some respects better. They have side-by-side frequency graphs of both of them. The exterior of the can looks like AKG and the interior sounds like a phat 770 !

Velour pad modded and tissue stuffed makes the lower end much better and there is a change

in sound over day 1 after burn-in....as the sub-bass I used in demo tracks were just not present out the box. 48 hours with Isotek burn-in loops and bam....there it was !

They have a slightly warm and Phat low-end and a great overall tone.

Analytical source equipment takes them up a level again, especially tightening up the mids and instrument separation .(ES9023 DAC for instance) A really under-rated obscure can that is dirt,dirt cheap on ebay....$50 inc. shipping ? It'll never have detail retrieval of say a well modded Fostex T50RP but its lower end is nicer for me than a T50RP...(timbre/decay)

662B on the other hand had terrible bass...hard punch, truncated decay.

 


Edited by Lohb - 3/31/14 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post

He's not sure, he is once again incorrectly guessing, and passing it off as fact.

The e11 drove my 250ohm DT770s just fine. It wasn't the loudest combination, but it was fine for normal listening, and flights.

And the SE-215 is an IEM, which I actually didn't mind. Had a good mid-bass thump to it, and a nice glimmer of 8-10k for detail. For the price, well worth it. Didn't like the cable, however, or the swivel-style attachments to the IEM.
... I meant not enough for a bass head, and the sound quality degrades at that point, so why get a 250 ohm dt770 with only an e11? Kind of a waste imo. Not the best sound possible. That's really doing them a disservice.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 3/31/14 at 9:40pm
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WRT the HA-SZ2000 pads being too near the ears I guess this NAD HP50 earpad mod will work as well....

Just guessing as I have not bought them yet but may make the bass solidity even better.

 

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Originally Posted by dlhen68 View Post
 

For those having the fit problem I mentioned earlier, here's a MOD I did this morning.

Last night I decided to hunker down with a movie, which meant having the headphones on for close to 2 hours. Initially they felt fine, but after the movie was over I was hurting. The middle part of my ear (what I think is called the antihelix) sticks out some. That was touching the driver grill. Initially I folded some tissues and pushed them under the ear pads (there is a space between the circumaural pad and the driver). That helped. I remembered that I had a few spare gel insoles for my shoes, so I measured the ear pads and cut the insoles to roughly match. I used the heel part because it's thicker around the edges. This seems to work pretty well. I'll try another long listening session and see how it goes.

Here are some shots of the rather crude MOD. I'll trim them with more precision if they work as well as they seem to.

BTW, it doesn't seem to affect the sound as far as I can tell...

 

 

 

 

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Nice. 

 

Shoe in-soles.......McGayver approved....lol

 

I'd recommend new pads eventually though.

 

 

These are stupid shallow:mad:

 

 

 

Not much room for stuffing in here..I never tried though. Again....new pads

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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
.....may make the bass solidity even better.

 

The gel will block any bass bleed better.It is like a wall on the inside. Pads usually taper under to the outside vs sealing all the way to dust filter (ie you can hook your finger round and in to the back of the outer area and that can be a bleed point). Out of sight & out of mind and all that. If it positively enhances the bass on measurement I'll do it.

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Originally Posted by ithehappy View Post

No no, I didn't say there was any lack of bass on SE215, but the bass was not of my liking / choice. As I said, I am not familiar with the terms you guys use, so to put it simply, SE215 provided bass in areas where I don't like it, but say on my XB90 the bass is exactly where I would like it to be, same goes for my V55. So I don't really know what 'type of bass' SE215 has, but it is the last thing I will try. That's why I need to make sure whether the DT770's bass is like that Shure's, I.E mid-bass I guess, or the one I am looking for, I.E sub-bass.

 



Buy the 80 Ohm version as it is said to be the bassiest one. It has a really nice subbass (less midbass) - I just ordered it for the 2nd time. But like others already wrote - it would be better if you check them in a store or be sure, that you can send them back for full refund.
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 

The gel will block any bass bleed better.It is like a wall on the inside. Pads usually taper under to the outside vs sealing all the way to dust filter (ie you can hook your finger round and in to the back of the outer area and that can be a bleed point). Out of sight & out of mind and all that. If it positively enhances the bass on measurement I'll do it.

No argument there. The gel would be much better (solid) than a tissue mod which McGayver would not approve :D

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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

No argument there. The gel would be much better (solid) than a tissue mod which McGayver would not approve :D


Do you ever get eardrum pain or do you have any hearing loss ? You are right into the extreme bone shaking end of the spectrum.....

Just wonder....while I was tuning my Fostex T50RP I could not listen to cans for a few days as one tuning made the mids laser-like...(never mind the bass) and my eardrums were wasted.

My friends eardrums actually bled at one Massive Attack concert...

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