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post #10021 of 11259
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post
 

The guy wont move his price, so i think ill go with the Sony mdr X10's for 60$

I like mine and got them for $60 too

post #10022 of 11259
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Originally Posted by deciBel23 View Post

I'd say no. I know this is only anecdotal evidence, but none of my headphones (105dB/1mW and 102dB/1mW) sound significantly better with my FiiO E11.

Hmm. I just remember more of a difference with the hfi 580s. Then again, i just remembered that i lost the fiio cable and have been using a cruddy headphone cable... I dont know if i believe in cables effecting sound but i guess its possible.
post #10023 of 11259
Hmm... A guy is selling V-Moda crossfade LP2's for 130$.. About 40-50$ overpriced. I'm going to try to get him to lower his price to 80$. I think I'll take lp2's over the X10's. I just like the look and frequency response chart a bit better... Not to mention I like over ears more than on ears.
post #10024 of 11259
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Hmm... A guy is selling V-Moda crossfade LP2's for 130$.. About 40-50$ overpriced. I'm going to try to get him to lower his price to 80$. I think I'll take lp2's over the X10's. I just like the look and frequency response chart a bit better... Not to mention I like over ears more than on ears.

Just keep in mine that the XL pads may be necessary for you as stock they're not really great in the comfort department.

post #10025 of 11259
"heavily modded"? All dude did was add pads and some spacer. Also 50mm driver? Lol wonder how many people caught that. That's waaaay to much $ by the way. I'm about to put 1 of my NIB back up pairs up for 90, I wonder who sells first lol. Lp2 for that price is good, they normally go for 200, unless there was a price drop I don't know about.
post #10026 of 11259
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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post
 

 

not to be an impertinent youth, but whats all this about the young generation doing things wrong? whats all this about it being your generations fault? except violence, there are never any victims - only volunteers. if generation A created a problem, its entirely generation Bs fault for accepting it. just because you find todays club music to set the wrong vibe, doesnt mean it does. just like music changes and evolves, so do the people listening to it. and if someone doesnt know how to pick up the girls its his own fault - not the musics. "friend zone" is a ridiculous notion created imho by people who are too shy to be direct with women.

 

i agree that today going to a club isnt necessarily about dancing or music, and what it is about can sometimes make it a little hard to communicate with strangers (i think you know what i mean?), but thats not the case for everyone... i know plenty of people who go dancing in order to dance with girls and meet new people, same as i know plenty of people who go to clubs in order to do things that we dont discuss on head-fi. to each his own i say, clubbing isnt meant to be anything, its meant for whatever purpose you give it, be it girls, just dancing, a night out with the boys, chemical intake - whatever...

 

when i was about 16 i came to an understanding - EVERYTHING is my own fault. i never blame anyone for my problems. if mum and dad (i.e the older generation) didnt prepare me for something, i prepare myself. if i find something hard to handle, i try again. blaming the older generation for things is just refusing to take responsibility. saying that your generation is to blame for todays problems is cutting the young generation way too much slack.

 

just my humble 2 cents... 

 


 

 

Great insight.  I really dunno...I just know that the generation gap is much larger than the previous gap, and the gap before that and before that - because of computers.  I really like today's youths...when I got an apprentice at work I really started to understand how much 'better' they are in so many different ways than when my generation were teenagers.

 

After understanding today's youth - I firmly believe that world peace is a lot more possible when today's kids take control over from us.  They're FAR more tolerant than we were and FAR more peaceful in general.  That is a good thing.

 

I just hate how oldies think today's kids have lost the plot entirely when I don't think so at all.

 

But I think you have the correct attitude - always blame oneself and not others...the world would never enter war if everyone did this.

 

 

Back to bass and headphones...the most accurate bass I ever heard so far is the LCD2...the breakdown of the bass is not like anything I ever heard.  I am genuinely in tune with bass and mid frequencies from the time served as a mechanic and using my ears to diagnose engines (we wheeled Mark Webbers then F1 car into the secret location - opposite my work bay, during the Sydney Harbour publicity run) and can say no speaker I have heard can be as accurate as the LCD2 in low frequencies.  If you have a good amp and EQ - they'll EQ to pump bass like nothing else if you want more, as the LCD2 by itself is not a bass head can...but they can sink 15 watts and with EQ they won't run out of headroom before your amplifier does.

 

20 hz sinewaves are easily audible without pumping up the volume - and it is a genuine 20hz.  Every closed can playing 20hz will not make a genuine 20hz, but rather much higher than that due to closed can reflections doubling up - more likely 40hz and up.

 

The bass goes so low and so clean...that studio recordings did not account for such a device becoming existent when making their recordings.  This is clearly audible and obvious in many tracks.

post #10027 of 11259
LP/LP2's go for 80-120$ used, depending on how much of a rip off the person is. I personally would only pay 80-90$ for one looking at prices. And 200$ for a new LP/LP2. LP's and LP2's cost the same price now. The pair that I'm getting is an LP... I would want an LP2, but there isn't one on Craigslist in Minnesota right now. Plus the LP I'm getting is chrome.
post #10028 of 11259
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Great insight.  I really dunno...I just know that the generation gap is much larger than the previous gap, and the gap before that and before that - because of computers.  I really like today's youths...when I got an apprentice at work I really started to understand how much 'better' they are in so many different ways than when my generation were teenagers.

 

After understanding today's youth - I firmly believe that world peace is a lot more possible when today's kids take control over from us.  They're FAR more tolerant than we were and FAR more peaceful in general.  That is a good thing.

 

I just hate how oldies think today's kids have lost the plot entirely when I don't think so at all.

 

But I think you have the correct attitude - always blame oneself and not others...the world would never enter war if everyone did this.

 

 

Back to bass and headphones...the most accurate bass I ever heard so far is the LCD2...the breakdown of the bass is not like anything I ever heard.  I am genuinely in tune with bass and mid frequencies from the time served as a mechanic and using my ears to diagnose engines (we wheeled Mark Webbers then F1 car into the secret location - opposite my work bay, during the Sydney Harbour publicity run) and can say no speaker I have heard can be as accurate as the LCD2 in low frequencies.  If you have a good amp and EQ - they'll EQ to pump bass like nothing else if you want more, as the LCD2 by itself is not a bass head can...but they can sink 15 watts and with EQ they won't run out of headroom before your amplifier does.

 

20 hz sinewaves are easily audible without pumping up the volume - and it is a genuine 20hz.  Every closed can playing 20hz will not make a genuine 20hz, but rather much higher than that due to closed can reflections doubling up - more likely 40hz and up.

 

The bass goes so low and so clean...that studio recordings did not account for such a device becoming existent when making their recordings.  This is clearly audible and obvious in many tracks.

 

I gotta quote you.

 

You made me think of T.s.p ( Thiele small parameters) <<I'm not gonna spell check so you know what I mean I hope.

 

 

 

This is Pali Hwy/ S. Vineyard Blvd in Honolulu HI

 

The blue car was me the red car was a stranger and the blue arrow points to a sign. No U Turn?...maybe.

 

I was slamming 2 15" subwoofers in a tuned ported box firing into the back hatch of an open cab. About 5" from dustcap to panel.

 

I was slamming a series of sine waves between 33 and 55 Hz it was an IASCA CD. The guy in the red car who's going by stops at my 10 o'clock and starts pointing..I thought he was pointing at a cop and warning me or he was a cop? I was confused for a second. The guy behind him blows the horn because he is stopping traffic in a very busy intersection. It was after work traffic and I was going to work after University classes.

 

This guy is creating a scene and just before I crank the volume down I realize he is furiously pointing at the No U Turn sign....I look and it was flailing wildly like an earthquake was happening under it..it was shaking insanely. The guy looks at me and gives me the thumbs up with a big smile and drives away. I don't know how he saw that and how I didn't but it was a moment in life I will never forget.

 

Changed my life. I became infatuated with low frequency sound. Bass firing backwards into a solid object will redirect and bloom. It hits it's note in a 2003 Toyota Matrix about 6ft in front of my vehicle. A 35Hz hit would round out to about 60Hz right there. I tested it over countless hours. I could pull up behind some one and position myself so the note would shake their rear view out of position.  Bass appears to come from all directions so folks would be twisting all around and sometimes never knew I blew a 35Hz note at them at full volume.

 

My rearview was stuck with a special adhesive for rearviews and and apparently a micro gap caused a super vibration during a certain freq and started a crack in my windshield that quickly spidered across the whole windshield.

 

Low freq travels through objects but not steel not much at 1000 watts. Next time anyone sees a car with rear firing subs stand infront and behind. The back should have dampening materiel to cut down on rattling and you might hear thudding but go up front and...woooooom!!

 

T.s.p. is not mush of anything in headphones but I know my bass. good bass. My current cans are fascinating.  I do wish my experience had more value with headphones. They don't though. Your comment about a note doubling is spot on. 

post #10029 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 

 

Hard to be apples to apples here for the following reason - when I had my D5000, it had aftermarket wood cups (good) but no Lawton damping at all (bad).  My D7000 save for the first four days of ownership have had full Lawton mods on driver and cups.  That said, they were close.  I'd go out on a limb and say with the same Lawton damping it would be too close to call to my 52 year old ears.  Mainly say that as an educated guess since my D2000's have full Lawton treatment and are dang close to the D7000.  Not fully there but close.  And after all, it's the Denon signature I love so all three DX000 series are awesome, as well as the D600 to me. 

 

cheers

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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

It's about laser shows.

 

:wink_face:

nudge nudge - wink wink - if youknowwhat a mean if youknowhat a mean

 

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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Great insight.  I really dunno...I just know that the generation gap is much larger than the previous gap, and the gap before that and before that - because of computers.  I really like today's youths...when I got an apprentice at work I really started to understand how much 'better' they are in so many different ways than when my generation were teenagers.

 

After understanding today's youth - I firmly believe that world peace is a lot more possible when today's kids take control over from us.  They're FAR more tolerant than we were and FAR more peaceful in general.  That is a good thing.

 

I just hate how oldies think today's kids have lost the plot entirely when I don't think so at all.

 

But I think you have the correct attitude - always blame oneself and not others...the world would never enter war if everyone did this.

 

generation gaps get larger and larger - faster and faster. there are 8 years between my younger brother and i and i already feel light-years away. but one thing always keeps intelligent people together, no matter what age, and that is simple savviness =]

post #10030 of 11259

How do you like those Velodyne? I almost got em'

 

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Woops..I meant the vtrue. sorry.


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 3/16/14 at 7:43am
post #10031 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

I gotta quote you.

 

You made me think of T.s.p ( Thiele small parameters) <<I'm not gonna spell check so you know what I mean I hope.

 

 

 

This is Pali Hwy/ S. Vineyard Blvd in Honolulu HI

 

The blue car was me the red car was a stranger and the blue arrow points to a sign. No U Turn?...maybe.

 

I was slamming 2 15" subwoofers in a tuned ported box firing into the back hatch of an open cab. About 5" from dustcap to panel.

 

I was slamming a series of sine waves between 33 and 55 Hz it was an IASCA CD. The guy in the red car who's going by stops at my 10 o'clock and starts pointing..I thought he was pointing at a cop and warning me or he was a cop? I was confused for a second. The guy behind him blows the horn because he is stopping traffic in a very busy intersection. It was after work traffic and I was going to work after University classes.

 

This guy is creating a scene and just before I crank the volume down I realize he is furiously pointing at the No U Turn sign....I look and it was flailing wildly like an earthquake was happening under it..it was shaking insanely. The guy looks at me and gives me the thumbs up with a big smile and drives away. I don't know how he saw that and how I didn't but it was a moment in life I will never forget.

 

Changed my life. I became infatuated with low frequency sound. Bass firing backwards into a solid object will redirect and bloom. It hits it's note in a 2003 Toyota Matrix about 6ft in front of my vehicle. A 35Hz hit would round out to about 60Hz right there. I tested it over countless hours. I could pull up behind some one and position myself so the note would shake their rear view out of position.  Bass appears to come from all directions so folks would be twisting all around and sometimes never knew I blew a 35Hz note at them at full volume.

 

My rearview was stuck with a special adhesive for rearviews and and apparently a micro gap caused a super vibration during a certain freq and started a crack in my windshield that quickly spidered across the whole windshield.

 

Low freq travels through objects but not steel not much at 1000 watts. Next time anyone sees a car with rear firing subs stand infront and behind. The back should have dampening materiel to cut down on rattling and you might hear thudding but go up front and...woooooom!!

 

T.s.p. is not mush of anything in headphones but I know my bass. good bass. My current cans are fascinating.  I do wish my experience had more value with headphones. They don't though. Your comment about a note doubling is spot on. 

 

Don't get too obsessed with exploring bass.  You might hit the "Brown - note"  Lolz.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

 

 

Late last year was roommates with a lovely french couple heavily involved in the rave scene and now are in Melbourne...anyways was introduced to a laser light show during Day Morning Time when no laser show was evident...all I can say is WTF.  Now I geddit.


Edited by SP Wild - 3/16/14 at 7:59am
post #10032 of 11259
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Don't get too obsessed with exploring bass.  You might hit the "Brown - note"  Lolz.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

 

 

Late last year was roommates with a lovely french couple heavily involved in the rave scene and now are in Melbourne...anyways was introduced to a laser light show during Day Morning Time when no laser show was evident...all I can say is WTF.  Now I geddit.

lol

 

resonant freq, X max's and Q parameters are measurable ...brown notes and daytime laser shows...not so much:D 

 

Go to the thread where they pay 5k for headphones and myth bust...they will string you up with their hand wound and braided chords.


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 3/16/14 at 8:11am
post #10033 of 11259
Considering this is the BASSHEAD CLUB...I have to say, anyone who loves to actually feel bass through your body and chest cavity seriously needs to look at the subpac. I just received mine from a 6 month wait. The thing literally feels like you have a 10 inch sub strapped to your back. The bass is tight and extends down LOW...very impressive I must say. I am using the portable version, M1. This is seriously one of the best inventions for anyone who needs bass. I pulled off a 2 hour mix with this yesterday. I was seriously a bit nauseous and it was hard to speak after. I had it tuned to the max. For edm type music this isn't a maybe, but a must have. No headphone can give you that visceral response that you are looking for.
post #10034 of 11259
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post

Considering this is the BASSHEAD CLUB...I have to say, anyone who loves to actually feel bass through your body and chest cavity seriously needs to look at the subpac. I just received mine from a 6 month wait. The thing literally feels like you have a 10 inch sub strapped to your back. The bass is tight and extends down LOW...very impressive I must say. I am using the portable version, M1. This is seriously one of the best inventions for anyone who needs bass. I pulled off a 2 hour mix with this yesterday. I was seriously a bit nauseous and it was hard to speak after. I had it tuned to the max. For edm type music this isn't a maybe, but a must have. No headphone can give you that visceral response that you are looking for.


That's interesting, I'd actually have a good use of this, not only for listening pleasure but also a tool for my mastering needs. Hmm $299, not too bad. I won't be needing the portable solution as I only listen at home anyway.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/16/14 at 8:38am
post #10035 of 11259
Hmm... Since JVC HA-MR55X's can reach down to 8 Hz apparently, I'm going to shake my head with infrasound at about 10hz.
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