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post #121 of 133

I get the crazy looks and comments from friends and family on the money i spend and what i'm about to spend on gear. I never second guess them on, what to me might seem dumb to spend money on. My friend the other day just spent over 4K on stuff for his jeep, and the jeep is a POS. I never said a word. To each there own.

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Originally Posted by Guidostrunk View Post

I get the crazy looks and comments from friends and family on the money i spend and what i'm about to spend on gear. I never second guess them on, what to me might seem dumb to spend money on. My friend the other day just spent over 4K on stuff for his jeep, and the jeep is a POS. I never said a word. To each there own.

 

Scenario 1:

"I spent $2k building my future-proof desktop."

"Duuude, that's a steal."

 

Scenario 2:
"I spent $2k building my desktop audio rig."

"Duuude, that's a lot of money."

 

Same amount of money, different calculation 0.0

post #123 of 133



Well Put.

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Originally Posted by crinacle View Post

 

 

Scenario 1:

"I spent $2k building my future-proof desktop.""Duuude, that's a steal."

 

Scenario 2:"I spent $2k building my desktop audio rig.""Duuude, that's a lot of money."

 

Same amount of money, different calculation 0.0



 

post #124 of 133
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Originally Posted by crinacle View Post

 

 

Scenario 1:

"I spent $2k building my future-proof desktop."

"Duuude, that's a steal."

 

Scenario 2:
"I spent $2k building my desktop audio rig."

"Duuude, that's a lot of money."

 

Same amount of money, different calculation 0.0


Scenario #2:
tell them you spent $2,000.00 on a time/space machine!
post #125 of 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by crinacle View Post

 

 

Scenario 1:

"I spent $2k building my future-proof desktop.""Duuude, that's a steal."

 

Scenario 2:"I spent $2k building my desktop audio rig.""Duuude, that's a lot of money."

 

Same amount of money, different calculation 0.0


$2k can barely get you a PC rig that'll last for 3 years, a $2k audio rig, on the other hand... very_evil_smiley.gif

 

post #126 of 133
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post




$2k can barely get you a PC rig that'll last for 3 years, a $2k audio rig, on the other hand... very_evil_smiley.gif

 

..........will get you a time/space machine which will bring you pleasure for years......
Edited by Chris J - 10/9/11 at 7:49am
post #127 of 133

It's right though, the people raising eyebrows at prices can be somewhat justified but it's purely a matter of perception - and experience.

 

Because that's another thing - it's always different all of a sudden when the shoe is on the other foot yet they don't mind judging others for the same thing.

 

Entheusiast-level anything costs a lot of money and the people not involved in it don't understand it and only see the expense.....yet if they were to get a taste for themselves - then they start to realise why people spend what they do. And can guarantee they'll start doing it to their own extent afterwards. 

post #128 of 133
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post

$2k can barely get you a PC rig that'll last for 3 years, a $2k audio rig, on the other hand... very_evil_smiley.gif

 


yeah, high end audio holds its value much better than most things, especially computer rigs.
post #129 of 133

there are many expensive hobbies, some have no function, just the joy of posessing that specific item.Audiophiles are able to feel,view, and actually use the items.That trumps a stamp or art collection in my books.Whenever I am asked "why do you need 4 pairs of headphones" I always reply "It's like having 4 unique sound systems to enjoy , how many people have 4 speaker systems in their home"

post #130 of 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post

$2k can barely get you a PC rig that'll last for 3 years, a $2k audio rig, on the other hand... very_evil_smiley.gif

 



Am I the only one who uses a computer to it's death? 3 years seems a little short for me tongue_smile.gif. I suppose after 3 years you may want to upgrade your GPU for a gaming rig, but the computer as a whole should last a lot longer than 3 years.

post #131 of 133

 

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Originally Posted by crinacle View Post

Scenario 1:

"I spent $2k building my future-proof desktop.""Duuude, that's a steal."

 

Scenario 2:"I spent $2k building my desktop audio rig.""Duuude, that's a lot of money."

 

Same amount of money, different calculation 0.0


Most PC enthusiasts I know (myself included) would think that's anything BUT a steal, especially given that computers suffer the most from depreciation by far. Of course, some people just have to have the very best right now and pay top dollar for every slight increase in performance as software gets more demanding, but that goes for any field. If that's what makes them happy, so be it...

 

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Originally Posted by lilkoolaidman View Post

Am I the only one who uses a computer to it's death? 3 years seems a little short for me tongue_smile.gif. I suppose after 3 years you may want to upgrade your GPU for a gaming rig, but the computer as a whole should last a lot longer than 3 years.


No, you're not the only one. I've been using the same Q6600, GA-P35-DS3P, and 8800 GT for almost 4 years now, and while that 8800 GT's due for an upgrade soon, I'm still mostly content with its performance. (In fact, while it has had some upgrades over the years, many of those are the peripherals, not the core specs. Part of it's due to this very site...)

 

I also keep some even older desktops handy for those really, REALLY finicky games that don't like anything later than Win98SE or XP.

post #132 of 133

 

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Originally Posted by lilkoolaidman View Post

Am I the only one who uses a computer to it's death? 3 years seems a little short for me tongue_smile.gif. I suppose after 3 years you may want to upgrade your GPU for a gaming rig, but the computer as a whole should last a lot longer than 3 years.


Yea, that's a bit exaggerated. If you built your own computer, a thousand bucks could make it an excellent performer and would last you a very long time. You could just upgrade a piece at a time as demands increase. My computer only costed me about a thousand and it can play 3-D games, but I don't even game. I doubt it would need a full replacement in 3 years. If you game, you can get a PS3 for just $250.

 

$1000 bucks on audio on the other hand only gets you audio and not even "high-end" audio at that. But my obsession with audio was never about practicality in my mind.

 

post #133 of 133

well, I'm pretty new to the world of hifi audio, but in no way new to cheapo electronic products, especially headphones. I have owned and used DOZENS of them but all of them eventually broke or just sounded too bad compared to a slightly more expensive headphone..... 
but the thing that bugs me a lot when reading most of the opinions here on head-fi is when some members start quantifying the audio difference between headphones, like..... this headphone doesn't sound all that better than that one so it's not worth it....etc..

take for example my case with PCs about 6 years back, I absolutely love gaming on PCs(even consoles occasionally), but I had an on-board GPU which sucked(a lot), some of my favorite games were running with 2 or 3 frames per second and thus I had to lower all graphics options but still only got up to about 15 frames(with **** image quality), that was until I decided to end all of this, got really pissed in the end( saved up a lot of cash from working in construction ) and bought a high-end(at the time) GPU with an excellent processor, lots of ram for my needs....etc....etc..
when I fired up my favorite games with the highest possible quality options and 100+ frames per second I almost cried, I was so happy that I started laughing uncontrollably(I'd give anything to get that feeling again).
same with my monitor, the moment I started actually LOOKING at the wallpapers I was using and the videos I was watching I got irritated with the image quality..... it was absolute garbage(150$ 19" Samsung LCD)..... I knew that incrementally upgrading monitors would require lots of cash thus I opted to go high end in one strike..... so I started reading up on monitor technologies and read about their differences, read about the difference between LCDs LEDs CRTs etc....etc.... but then I remembered that I had a cheap, no name CRT lying around in my closet..... I hooked it up and....wow, wallpapers looked fantastic(CRTs provide incomparable  native color contrast ration compared to LCD tech) and the cursor was so smooth compared to LCDs(analog/no image processing) it felt like cheating when playing FPS games..... I was determined to find a much better CRT as my new monitor, and I found(don't ask how) a Viewsonic P225f CRT(brand new in a washing machine sized box)..... it was a 900$ CRT back in 2002 with several awards notably being the fastest refreshing CRT of that time... I bought it in 2014 for 400$...... my cousin said in a joking manner :"ARE YOU MAD !!"

however the image quality I got trumps any artificially created image I have ever laid my eyes on(even does 1920x1440 natively but can do higher if required), contrast ratio is about 25,000/1(native) unlike the 1000/1 or 1200/1(native) of LCDs.... THUS it was well worth the price and more, I can't quantify it's value simply because I couldn't accept anything less.

recently I started actually listening to the audio coming out of my on-board realtek ALC892 and my cheapo Sony extra bass headphones, reading on head-fi opened my eyes(my ears) to what I was actually hearing, so when I really started listening to music(not just as noise) I noticed insane amounts of HISS and crackles and pops and  that the entire frequency spectrum of my headphone's sound was flooded with this EXTRA BASS, everything was really muddy and the bass itself sounded like farts, vocals were funny sounding even, and the highs no where to be found while having absolutely no sound stage or sense of space, all sounds were coming from one point, inside the ear itself, oh and not to forget that everything sounded like it was at half volume when the bass hit hard (again,it was a garbage product)..... so I said to myself "here we go again" and started reading all kinds of reviews of headphones, amps,dacs, reading opinions, watching videos on headphones and other gear, after about 2 months of doing that(not daily of course) I started stopping in the middle of my music tracks because  actually listening to music now was just no longer enjoyable at all, it was like self torture using noise :/

So I made up my mind to buy the hifiman He-500 cans(good all-rounder) with an Audio-GD SA-31SE(or NFB -11.33) amp with a sub 200$ DAC(unless I get the 11.33), do you guys think I can get that same WOW effect that I was having with other aspects of my media enjoyment system(even though this isn't considered top of the line audio) ?

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