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Audiology test results stuns me!

post #1 of 15
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Just got back from a test on my hearing for my tinnitus and even tho the tinnitus worsened since it began (a year ago) I kept my hearing intact ! F YEAH. Have 100% on speech recognition at 40dB ( kind of yeah! no? .) Even have a better than usual hearing for sounds exceeding 9khz ( like a boss I'm quite proud of it ) than she ask me if I listen to bass heavy music so I say I listen to drum and bass/dubstep most of the time.So she says I have trouble with sounds below 500hz compared to the average even if not a big problem I am below average so I cried a little inside :(. And finally my ears are unbalanced with the left ear hearing better. 

 

And I learned new things about low frequency sounds. Because I was curious I asked if those sounds would damage hearing more than other and it turns out that those frequency act differently from the higher ones.

 

Mids sounds have 2 things to measure their possible damage. The dB level and the exposure (time spent hearing them).

 

Bass sounds have 3 things. The dB , the exposure and the vibration they can create ( exemple a boomy headphone with synthesized bass that makes you feel it.) and to the same level of dB when exposed to the vibration of those Bass they damage faster than normal mids and highs sounds. it's like instead of walking on some grass you stomp on them.

 

Then the highs are just painful faster.

 

I wish I could completely understand the graph she gave me afterward. Cause it measures a lot more than I thought . the mobility of the eardrum the space in the inner ear and a couple of other thing I can't comprehend .

 

And oddly enough I kind of like how this jobs looks like so I kind of see it as a possible career for me it just needs a master degree even. + having someone to treat you with the same problem you have really could benefit for tinnitus as he could know what you feel. Interesting stuff and all since I love the subject. 

 

I'm happy my hearing didn't worsen I feel a little better than before since I thought I was deaf but it's just the sound in my head that's masking some others and making it hard to hear in noisy places.

 

post #2 of 15
Glad to hear you're OK. Please keep an eye on volume, though.

And I think audiology has a huge future - I'd go into it if I were still in high school. There are goin to be lots of hearing tests and hearing aids for the young generation, sadly.
post #3 of 15

Ugh... I'm having a hearing test in a couple of moths.

 

I really don't like the thought of having my perception of sound quantified.

My tinnitus has been stable the last 2 years or so, but I think my hearing has taken a drop for the worse. frown.gif

post #4 of 15

Funny how one ear is better than the other.... Does that mean your soundstage gets all screwy?

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Funny how one ear is better than the other.... Does that mean your soundstage gets all screwy?



Probably not. As far as I know the brain will compensate for it.

Even if you have less hearing on one ear, you should still be able to point out the directions of sounds.

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Glad to hear you're OK. Please keep an eye on volume, though.
And I think audiology has a huge future - I'd go into it if I were still in high school. There are goin to be lots of hearing tests and hearing aids for the young generation, sadly.



I'm going to do that! I've had 2 rounds of interviews to become one. On friday I will have contract negotiation and If things will be right, I'll work 4 days a few there and go to college 1 day in the week

Don't know the correct English word for it, but someone who does hearing tests, sells, fits and install hearing aids, sell and arange IEM's for musicians etc. (do you call that an audiologist?)

 

One of the things they liked about me for the job, was my headphone (and audio in general) hobby:)

 

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I'm going to do that! I've had 2 rounds of interviews to become one. On friday I will have contract negotiation and If things will be right, I'll work 4 days a few there and go to college 1 day in the week

Don't know the correct English word for it, but someone who does hearing tests, sells, fits and install hearing aids, sell and arange IEM's for musicians etc. (do you call that an audiologist?)

 

One of the things they liked about me for the job, was my headphone (and audio in general) hobby:)

 

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post #8 of 15
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audyologie test.pngFor the soundstage question for my ears .

 

Yes I have less accurate soundstage more noticeably for singers it's not centered I hear them a bit to my left (like just a bit in the left inside my head.) when i use headphone and I'm sometimes confused when someone call me from behind ( has my drop are in the 1khz-2khz and 4-7khz.) could be my headphone for music tho but I don't think so but it's not that distracting.

 

I'll show you the test results sheet she gave me ( there's french on it but it's a general explication of my hearing ).

 

They test the nerve reflex to loud sounds  to see if it protects the ears correctly unfortunately my left ear have inconsistent protection against loud 500hz to 2000hz sounds it's the inverse of hyperacusis well hypoacusis i suppose. So my nerve react incorrectly to loud sounds between 1-6khz and may or may not protect it against 100dB+ sounds. There's a lot of things I can't understand. like daPa and mmho.

 

Also if you go for a test right after it it seems to worsen but it's just you concentrating on it more on the sounds you hear. And when in the chamber with the headphones on ( they had seenheiser headphones but I don't remember the name. they had brown earcups for all I know. ) My head became a maze of sounds it was far from being silent lol but white noise did effectively make them all disappear for a couple of minute and I was hysterical almost when I heard silence for the first time since a year.

 

In the graph when you go lower on it it's worse hearing it's in the +dB if you go to the top of the graph it's -dB so my peak at 9khz is where I hear the best with drops in the bass and in the 1-6Khz for the left hear :(

 

 


Edited by Marc-Olivier - 9/28/11 at 10:24pm
post #9 of 15
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And I learned new things about low frequency sounds. Because I was curious I asked if those sounds would damage hearing more than other and it turns out that those frequency act differently from the higher ones.

 

Mids sounds have 2 things to measure their possible damage. The dB level and the exposure (time spent hearing them).

 

Bass sounds have 3 things. The dB , the exposure and the vibration they can create ( exemple a boomy headphone with synthesized bass that makes you feel it.) and to the same level of dB when exposed to the vibration of those Bass they damage faster than normal mids and highs sounds.


I think you may have misunderstood somewhere along the line. dB is the measurement of vibration! So there's just dB and exposure time, for all frequencies. At the same dB level, mids and highs are more damaging to the ear than bass frequencies.

G
post #10 of 15
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Well the audiologist showed me and told me so. But they are not all consistent some said they couldn't damage any other cells while others says it damage every cells in it's path while getting to the one making this special frequencies. Yeah dB is a vibration but the bass ones are more powerful. I don't want to argue when even among themselves they can't be sure of whether it damage faster or not.

 

I would say bass are more damaging since it has to reach far inside the Cochlea. And I don't know at what frequency she put the sound she made a earphone doing but it was basically a vibrator in my hand but it was to small to be audible. maybe she talked about the power of those wave sounds.

post #11 of 15
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Yeah dB is a vibration but the bass ones are more powerful. I don't want to argue when even among themselves they can't be sure of whether it damage faster or not.

 

I would say bass are more damaging since it has to reach far inside the Cochlea. And I don't know at what frequency she put the sound she made a earphone doing but it was basically a vibrator in my hand but it was to small to be audible. maybe she talked about the power of those wave sounds.


No, dB measures the vibration, the amount of energy contained in a sound wave is measured by decibels. So, a 6kHz sound wave measured at 60dB by definition has exactly the same energy (power) as a 50Hz sound wave at 60dB.

Normal human hearing has peak sensitivity between 2kHz and 4kHz due to resonance in the ear canal, so high dB between 1kHz - 6kHz are usually considered the most damaging. The natural response curve of the ear is far less sensitive to low frequencies, so these are less damaging to the ear!
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Originally Posted by Marc-Olivier View Post

So my nerve react incorrectly to loud sounds between 1-6khz and may or may not protect it against 100dB+ sounds.

You need to be careful if you have reduced Stapedius Effect (the ear defence mechanism). The Stapedius Effect starts reducing volume at about 80dB and reaches peak attenuation at roughly 110dB, so it's not just 100dB+ volume you have to be careful of!!

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post #12 of 15

Interesting...

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Here's mine.

 

 

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Here's mine.

 

 

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I wonder why my ears are so unbalanced compared to test like those. Could it be my job. cause I have a strap carrying stuff all the time to my right making more sounds and having things hitting it all the time then my left ear have 7/8 hours a day. I'll go back to the first clinic I went some months ago to ask them the test I did to compare if my ears were balanced at that time.

 

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Originally Posted by Marc-Olivier View Post

I wonder why my ears are so unbalanced compared to test like those. Could it be my job. cause I have a strap carrying stuff all the time to my right making more sounds and having things hitting it all the time then my left ear have 7/8 hours a day. I'll go back to the first clinic I went some months ago to ask them the test I did to compare if my ears were balanced at that time.

 


The slight differences between ears in your test results are quite normal. It's possible you have caused some minor damage from your work but it's just as likely that you were born that way or that your ears naturally deteriorated that way. If both your ears were identical, that would be highly unusual. Perception of sound can be quite different from the response of the ears though. Generally, these relatively small differences between ears are compensated for by the brain.

Everyone's ear response and perception of sound is different, which is why one person's opinion of good sound quality maybe radically different from another.

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