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post #541 of 552

hello i am really new to this forum, and i have read through this thread just a couple of questions. i have a pair of he400 that i would like to change the pads.

 

i have tried the focus A pads and i am wondering how easy it would be to use audeze's pads? like do i need to peal the mounting ring from the stock hifiman pads for it?

post #542 of 552
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i have tried the focus A pads and i am wondering how easy it would be to use audeze's pads? like do i need to peal the mounting ring from the stock hifiman pads for it?

 

I haven't tried the Audeze pads, nor do I have Audeze headphones, but it is my understanding that no other brand uses similar mounting rings to the Hifiman ones, so if you want to mount non-Hifiman pads (e.g. Audeze pads) you will need to use the mounting rings from Hifiman pads. Also, the Audeze pads are quite a lot bigger than the Hifiman ones, in diameter as well as in thickness, so they will sort of stand out due to having a larger diameter than the headphones themselfes (there are pics in this thread somewhere). Doesn't really have any practical significance (as far as I know), but nice to know anyway.

 

So short answer: Yes, you need to use the Hifiman mounting rings.

post #543 of 552

FWIW, I just used the adhesive rings that come with the Audeze pads to stick them to the cups of the HE-500; no mounting rings involved.  Yes, the pads are larger than the HFM rings and cups, so it was important to get the alignment correct before really securing the pads.  Not too difficult, just necessary.  Using the HFM mounting rings would save one that step.

post #544 of 552
The Vegan pads sound much better directly mounted via the adhesive ring, throw the Hifiman plastic ring in a drawer, direct mount and enjoy.
post #545 of 552
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So short answer: Yes, you need to use the Hifiman mounting rings.

 

Seems I was wrong on that one, oops. Though I assume that the Audeze adhesive ring, like most adhesives, wont't stick again if you take the pads off. Is the Audeze mounting ring sturdy enough to survive a removal so that you could reglue it with some additional adesive in case the pads need to be removed?

post #546 of 552
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Seems I was wrong on that one, oops. Though I assume that the Audeze adhesive ring, like most adhesives, wont't stick again if you take the pads off. Is the Audeze mounting ring sturdy enough to survive a removal so that you could reglue it with some additional adesive in case the pads need to be removed?

 

Correct, it will not stick, mostly because some (a lot) of the vinyl on the cup-side of the pads will be left behind when you remove the pads.  Strong double-sided tape like carpet tape, or even those Scotch Reusable Stickies work fine for reattachment.  They just require a bit more work to cut them into suitably sized pieces.

 

The Audeze pads don't use a separate mounting ring like the HFM cans.  They're just vinyl rings on the underside of the pads; they are integral parts of the pads.

 

As you can guess, I've removed and reattached the Audeze pads, but only once.  I received four adhesive rings when I ordered the pads from B&H Photo.  That may be the standard Audeze package.  I reckon the pads could be removed and reattached at least two times, possibly more.  If you want to experience how they sound without committing to direct attachment, less sticky generic double-sided tape would probably work short-term.  From experience, I can say that short-term method works for a lot of pads I've tried on the HE-500.  And the HFM mounting rings could be used, I suppose.

post #547 of 552
I did not like focus pads on hE500. more Hifi sound but they lost their magic mid range and smooth sound with original velour.
So which pads will be more comfortable than velour but similar sounding? Does anybody tried 400s velour pads?
post #548 of 552
Hi guys! I just purchased audeze vegan pads for my HE-560. I plan on using the Audeze adhesive ring to make mounting easier instead of using the hifiman rings. My question is, what's the correct mountig orientation of these pads? How do I know they're mounted the right way? smily_headphones1.gif
post #549 of 552
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Originally Posted by Mist3rLao View Post

Hi guys! I just purchased audeze vegan pads for my HE-560. I plan on using the Audeze adhesive ring to make mounting easier instead of using the hifiman rings. My question is, what's the correct mountig orientation of these pads? How do I know they're mounted the right way? smily_headphones1.gif

 

If you can fit the Audeze pads on the HE-560 and get the yokes that hold the HE-560 cups to move freely enough under the pads, I'll be impressed.  The Audeze pads are huge compared to the FocusPads that come with the HE-560, and there's precious little room under those yokes.

 

As for positioning, any angled pads are designed so that the thickest part is situated at the back of the cup (and your head), which forces the cups (and transducers) to angle forward (toward your face).

 

What I found with the Audeze pads on my HE-500, which have a bit more clearance under the yokes than the HE-560, was that I needed to have the top of the pads lower than they would be if they were mounted dead center.  You can experiment with the positioning using simple double-sided tape on the pads.  Once you've optimized the position, you can make it "permanent" with stronger stuff like the adhesive rings that come with the Audeze pads.

 

One note about the adhesive rings: given the circumference of the rings (and pads) is greater than that of the HiFiMAN cups, I found it best to cut the adhesive rings into quarters before trying to position them on the CUPS (not the underside of the pads, as you will likely not be able to center the pads on the cups).

 

A lot to take in.  Hopefully it helps.  Do post your impressions of the Audeze pads on the HE-560.  I could never get them to work, so I made my own pads.

post #550 of 552

Hmm,

 

I browsed through 37 pages of the thread, but didn't really find as much information as was buried in the HE-400i impressions thread -> Brainwavz HM5 angled pleather pads, measurements vs. the stock (angled) Focuspads. Thanks to @James Myers!

 

The measurements alone made me order the pads, along with official "crappy"=cheap HFM pads, just to get the rings.

 

And another link, how to install them.

 

Also, another video. Some discussion with pleather vs. velour, along with changing the pads, though HE-350, but the same procedure.

 

Hope this helps, or at least is interesting!

post #551 of 552

Additionally, some pictures vs. the stock pads, courtesy of @echoz, not from me yet, as I'm still waiting for them to arrive!

 

Sonic discussion can be found via searching the thread with "brainwavz".

post #552 of 552

Wasn't expecting the pads to arrive until next week, but they arrived today - funnily enough, both the separately ordered and packaged HFM velours and the Brainwavz angled pleathers fit through a rather small letter slot opening!

 

Some pics with A/B regarding the stock FocusPads, and hasty early impressions.

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