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Lol, I'm not too sure he would like the ER4's... They are pretty slim on the bass quantity and that's a big aspect of what I think he is looking for.
My recommendation would be either the TF10 or EX600. I feel the EX600 bests the TF10 technically in every conceivable way, but the TF10 has a fairly pleasant sound-signature, so it gets points for that.
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When it comes to the fun & musical side of things, the TF10's are simply unmatched in my book. In that very regard, the HiFiMan RE262's are a close second, as are the SM3's, among others. The mids aren't recessed (they're neutral at best), and there's a way to bring them forward without any extra cables needed. I don't wish to derail the thread, so PM me if need be, but as I'm hearing the TF10's now, the mids are no longer recesed/neutral, they're slightly forward, and I've msg'ed quite a few Head-Fi veterans here discussing the changes. While certainly not the most technically proficient universal I've ever heard (the EX1000 reigns supreme in that regard), the TF10's fun & musical side remains unmatched for these ears, especially once you've brought out the mids. 
Guess TF10 & EX 1000 would appeal to treble heads (I'm not but I still enjoyed my tf10)
TF10 have great PRAT, excellent clarity and extension in the highs.and the bass is hard hitting too very tight.
Both TF10 & EX1000 are great, but it's up to your taste preferences.
On the financial side:
Good thing about the TF10 is that you can probably buy them $150 usd or less, try them
and sell again for roughly the same price... (save $$$ if you dislike, no one will know that yours is 3rd hand)
And you then take your TF10 to an audio shop/ friend to compare with EX1000, IE8, SM3... before deciding which is better for you
(consider that free demo at minimal to no cost... saves you plenty of dollars)
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I personally don't associate the TF10 or the EX1000 as treble-centric or treble-forward, especially the latter. The TF10 has more or less equally as much boosted treble, as it does bass, while the EX1000 is well balanced to my ears. Maybe it's the choice of tips, as I tend to use an assorted array, and rarely ever the stock ones. For instance, the HiFiMan biflanges with the TF10's, or the Monster tri-flanges with the EX1000's. And I'm personally not a fan of hot treble, which I've yet to encounter with either one.
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Thanks for all the help you guys are kind of overwhelming me with suggestions and sense there are no headphone shops near me and even if there were I dout they would let me try out IEM's so Il try to explain to you best what I'm looking for.
Removable/Replaceable cables would be preffered (hate to have a $400 IEM go out cuz of cables) and then maybe I could swap right for left if needed? Maybe not?
I'm looking for the most detailed and smooth IEM's with very good bass extention I can get for around $300 (I can go around there to find the best value). Treble extention would be nice to but I can probably only hear to 18khz if I'm lucky but some start rolling off around 10khz. Il be listening to Lossless files and want to hear every thing I can. I usually like a slight increase in bass and treble (I'm a drummer and like hearing bass and cymbals) with slightly recessed mids with the bass able to go way up for jamming out and listening in loud enviroments. Now the best would be a perfectly flat response so I could adjust all of my preferances in the EQ and still have the accuracy and transparency on a flat EQ but all IEM's are different so yeah.
I think the EX1000's and SE535's are probably out of my budget.
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Bass with superb impact; many users report it as "head jerking inducing"
Someone's selling it at 145 usd in the for sale section; go check it out.
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Thanks for all the help you guys are kind of overwhelming me with suggestions and sense there are no headphone shops near me and even if there were I dout they would let me try out IEM's so Il try to explain to you best what I'm looking for.
Removable/Replaceable cables would be preffered (hate to have a $400 IEM go out cuz of cables) and then maybe I could swap right for left if needed? Maybe not?
I'm looking for the most detailed and smooth IEM's with very good bass extention I can get for around $300 (I can go around there to find the best value). Treble extention would be nice to but I can probably only hear to 18khz if I'm lucky but some start rolling off around 10khz. Il be listening to Lossless files and want to hear every thing I can. I usually like a slight increase in bass and treble (I'm a drummer and like hearing bass and cymbals) with slightly recessed mids with the bass able to go way up for jamming out and listening in loud enviroments. Now the best would be a perfectly flat response so I could adjust all of my preferances in the EQ and still have the accuracy and transparency on a flat EQ but all IEM's are different so yeah.
I think the EX1000's and SE535's are probably out of my budget.
I hate to sound redundant, but you are practically describing the TF10 in my opinion. You really have nothing to lose my friend. I certainly can't say they sound the 'most detailed' under $300, but they meet majority of your requirements. I have them in now, and they sound simply awesome!
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Ok they were my first choise but I have heard a lot of people, more than just on here say they break and don't fit right.
So for the most part the TF10's, Etymotics and UM3X's are all about the same for clarity and detail its just the design and frequency response thats different?
$133? seems like a good deal compared to $400 headphones http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX600-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004P11EPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316400898&sr=8-1

Lol, I'm not too sure he would like the ER4's... They are pretty slim on the bass quantity and that's a big aspect of what I think he is looking for.
My recommendation would be either the TF10 or EX600. I feel the EX600 bests the TF10 technically in every conceivable way, but the TF10 has a fairly pleasant sound-signature, so it gets points for that.
Y do you think that?
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Definitely not! Refer to |joker|'s comparison thread for in-depth reviews; you'll have a much better idea of where they each stand. Between the 3, you can't top the Ety's clarity and detail. Referring back to what you said however, and what I highlighted in green from that very same post, the TF10 most certainly fits the bill. If build quality is of concern, you can always purchase an extended warranty, and still come out at a very reasonable price.
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Definitely not! Refer to |joker|'s comparison thread for in-depth reviews; you'll have a much better idea of where they each stand. Between the 3, you can't top the Ety's clarity and detail. Referring back to what you said however, and what I highlighted in green from that very same post, the TF10 most certainly fits the bill. If build quality is of concern, you can always purchase an extended warranty, and still come out at a very reasonable price.
I just went threw that thread and it was helpful but a lot to retain at once and he has not yet reviewed the TF10's. Taken from the other thread I am very much looking for "A balanced sound signature is a treble and bass enhanced sound. More bass to compensate for headphone’s lack of tactual bass while more treble to give detail. It can go from mild U shaped FR curve to a more extreme V shaped FR curve, where mid range is often interpreted as recessed. Usually has good soundstage." type of headphone as opposed to a warm or analytical sound.

Ok they were my first choise but I have heard a lot of people, more than just on here say they break and don't fit right.
So for the most part the TF10's, Etymotics and UM3X's are all about the same for clarity and detail its just the design and frequency response thats different?
$133? seems like a good deal compared to $400 headphones http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX600-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004P11EPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316400898&sr=8-1
Y do you think that?
Be gentle; everything breaks... at least the tf10 will be save with the super casing that comes with it. I bet they will survive being run over by a van.. if it goes 5km/hour.
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How to the Klipsch Image X 10's, Custom 3's or the IE8 compare to the TF10's?
I also looking in to the EX600's I mean there only $130 and they run with all these other $300 and up phones??
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