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post #76 of 118

How can the AD700 be decent for rock if it has a good soundstage and no bass at all? o.o"

XB500 is supposedly more bassy (as in quantity and impact) than the XB700 while the XB700

has better bass quality but less quantity and impact. I think.

 

For bass, sure, get the XB.

For soundstage and stuff, get the AD700.

 

But neither will give you what good rock (imo) gives you,

which is epic electric guitar presentation, vocals, and the right amount of bass

to not overpower everything else.

 

 

 

 

 

post #77 of 118
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Originally Posted by koolkat View Post

How can the AD700 be decent for rock if it has a good soundstage and no bass at all? o.o"

XB500 is supposedly more bassy (as in quantity and impact) than the XB700 while the XB700

has better bass quality but less quantity and impact. I think.

 

For bass, sure, get the XB.

For soundstage and stuff, get the AD700.

 

But neither will give you what good rock (imo) gives you,

which is epic electric guitar presentation, vocals, and the right amount of bass

to not overpower everything else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright, I buy what you're saying.

 

But with AD700 having no bass, is the AD900 really an option?

 

post #78 of 118

I can't say for sure I haven't tried any of them. But I recall reading comments on the AD700 vs AD900 and apparently the AD900 is very similar to the AD700 and not worth the upgrade. But don't quote me on that, dig up some reviews (search function). $300 can be spent on getting the.. DT770.. HE-300, lots of stuff.

 

If you're really into AD sound sig, then go for the bassiest one like Kiteki said. 


Edited by koolkat - 9/14/11 at 4:32am
post #79 of 118

 

Since guldkrull has the money, maybe he should just get the bass-heaviest AD model?

 

I don't know which model that is, but I've heard very few complaints of the sound quality in the AD1000 and up.

 

If he gets the AD1000 and the bass isn't enough for him after 1 week of listening, he can easily sell it on the head-fi forums, and then get the XB1000 instead.

post #80 of 118
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Originally Posted by koolkat View Post

I can't say for sure I haven't tried any of them. But I recall reading comments on the AD700 vs AD900 and apparently the AD900 is very similar to the AD700 and not worth the upgrade. But don't quote me on that, dig up some reviews (search function). $300 can be spent on getting the.. DT770.. HE-300, lots of stuff.

 

If you're really into AD sound sig, then go for the bassiest one like Kiteki said. 



I've read many of the Ad700 vs Ad900 reviews and have participated in discussions as well. I own both currently and can say with confidence that with 1000 hours of listening time on each that the Ad900 is a completely worthy upgrade in every aspect. The one huge thing I hear complaints about with the ad900 is their bass, the bass isn't poor at all. The pads are very stiff though and take a while to conform well to your head, this means more air can leak out, causing the bass to be weak. My pads are more than broken in and I can say with confidence that the Ad900 have excellent bass extension and quality, enough for any non-basshead this I promise. 

 

Seriously if someone bought me another pair of Ad900 I would loan mine out for others to try, one with worn in pads. There's a reason that you won't find Ad900 on the marketplace here. It's not that people aren't buying them, it's that people aren't selling them. I own the Fostex T50RP, Sennheiser HD558, Ad700, and the Superlux HD668b to directly compare to them. As much as I like them all, I always end up putting on my Ad900. They are without a doubt the most musical headphone I've ever heard.

 

As for the XB700, I demoed this and tried some alt rock through them, not bad by any means, but the bass definitely leaks into the mids which took some satisfaction of the guitars away.

 

In regards to the Ad1000, I've never tried them, but they are supposed to be more akin to the Ad700, very light, thin sounding. Clear and detailed, but very bass anemic. I don't know if they'd be very good for alternative rock.

 

Here's a good review on a few of the AD series: http://www.headfonia.com/audio-technica-ad-series-ad300-ad700-ad900-ad1000prm-ad2000/


Edited by keanex - 9/14/11 at 7:20am
post #81 of 118

 

 

But the most important question, does Guldkrull want the doof doof or the shing shing?

post #82 of 118
Thread Starter 

I'm a bit scared that the AD900 might be a bit like the Klipsch Custom 3, which was not for me. I got even more hesitant after reading that well written review that you linked Keanex, they said that they were not really optimal for rock?

 

I guess doof doof? I wish there were a perfect headphone equivalent of my beloved IE8's...

post #83 of 118

As a huge fan of rock I can say without hesitation that I enjoy rock, Radiohead, Bloc Party, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, etc very much through the Ad900, The Ad700 not so much. If you look at my last.fm, linked in my signature, you can see my most listened to bands: Sufjan Stevens (an indie/folk/electronic artist), Modest Mouse (Indie Rock), Radiohead (Alternative Rock), The Beatles (Classic Rock/Pop), Kanye West (Hip-Hop), The Dear Hunter (Progressive Rock), The Streets (Garage/Hip-Hop), and Sigur Ros (Post-Rock).

 

I listen to a variety of things and the Ad900 play them all back fantastically to my ears, better than any other headphone in the price range, especially since you don't need an amp. 

 

Three big problems I find with those who complain about the lack of bass in the Ad900s are:

 

-Pads being stiff not creating a good seal causing bass to leak

-Headphones being very loose in clamping, this is fixed by simply pushing them together a bit. You can make the clamp better by pushing the two metal wires that hold them together. Go easy on them, but they definitely can bend closer together.

-Placement on the head. If I push the headphones forward so my ears are towards the back the driver the sound completely changes than when my ears sit towards the front.

 

Honestly every complaint I've heard about the Ad900 sounds as like people aren't wearing them right. Yes that sounds silly, but the positioning of these on your ears makes a huge difference.


Edited by keanex - 9/14/11 at 10:03am
post #84 of 118

 

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I guess doof doof?

 

 

Less talking, more buying.

 

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post #85 of 118
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Originally Posted by keanex View Post

As a huge fan of rock I can say without hesitation that I enjoy rock, Radiohead, Bloc Party, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, etc very much through the Ad900, The Ad700 not so much. If you look at my last.fm, linked in my signature, you can see my most listened to bands: Sufjan Stevens (an indie/folk/electronic artist), Modest Mouse (Indie Rock), Radiohead (Alternative Rock), The Beatles (Classic Rock/Pop), Kanye West (Hip-Hop), The Dear Hunter (Progressive Rock), The Streets (Garage/Hip-Hop), and Sigur Ros (Post-Rock).

 

I listen to a variety of things and the Ad900 play them all back fantastically to my ears, better than any other headphone in the price range, especially since you don't need an amp. 

 

Three big problems I find with those who complain about the lack of bass in the Ad900s are:

 

-Pads being stiff not creating a good seal causing bass to leak

-Headphones being very loose in clamping, this is fixed by simply pushing them together a bit. You can make the clamp better by pushing the two metal wires that hold them together. Go easy on them, but they definitely can bend closer together.

-Placement on the head. If I push the headphones forward so my ears are towards the back the driver the sound completely changes than when my ears sit towards the front.

 

Honestly every complaint I've heard about the Ad900 sounds as like people aren't wearing them right. Yes that sounds silly, but the positioning of these on your ears makes a huge difference.
 

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

 

 

Less talking, more buying.

 

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I WANT THEM BOTH! /cry :(

 

I think this is a simple case of learning by trial and error, just like when I bought the IE8. I tried several IEM's before ending up with IE8.


Edited by Guldkrull - 9/14/11 at 10:30am
post #86 of 118

 

You want doof doof and shing shing... AT THE SAME TIME?

post #87 of 118

 

At least you will be cool with the XB1000's because you'll have to import them from Japan and no one else will have them and they'll go WOW WHAT ARE THOSE GIANT SONY PILLOWS.

post #88 of 118
Thread Starter 

Hahahaha, muuust... RESIST... bass... urgEEE....!

 

A doof doof and shing shing marriage, wonderful wouldn't it be?

 

Would be nice with a pair that is not bass monsters, too, thou...

 

Well seems that the only resolution is getting several headphones, I'm sorry wallet.


Edited by Guldkrull - 9/14/11 at 10:48am
post #89 of 118

 

This is the tricky part...

 

 

The doof doof...

 

 

 

...and the shing shing...

 

 

 

 

AT

 

THE

 

SAME...

 

 

 

TIME

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjYobyChFqo#t=0m53s

 

 

 

 

post #90 of 118

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss xD måste ha... bas... :P

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