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You know it's funny, when I bought one of my first headphones, a Portapro, I never felt any kind of burn-in. And I was believer of it back then (it was like my first month on Head-Fi). Later I bought a SRH750 and again didn't notice much either. I felt the sub-bass more like a month later, but probably because I started listening to other kinds of music, and also because I kept reading on audio and realized the difference between mid-bass and sub-bass.
Moving on. I started thinking for myself and realized burn-in occurred, although it was probably inaudible unless for very large diaphragms, so in headphones the effect was more likely psychological. But even so, as we've all seen, burn-in believers always say that you need X hundred hours of burn-in, it's always huge amounts of time. Well I've been using a pair of IEMs I got for my gf and although I did not expect a change to happen, I'm pretty sure the highs extend more and so does the bass. I realize this makes little sense, since it would means burn-in changed the sound in two opposite directions (what is required to extend the highs is the opposite of what is required to extend the lows in terms of driver characteristics), and yet I'm sure the sound changed. What is funny, and the reason why I quoted you, is that I noticed this after 2 hours of listening, not 200 like it's usually recomended. I never expected a change in such short time, so I'm thinking this can't all be psychological. It doesn't matter. I'm happy with this sound, she will be too and that's really all I care about. I won't rack my brain trying to figure out how a certain driver was at first, I'll enjoy it as it is now.
I think you raise many good points, LizardKing. Tyll's article sort of approaches it from the same perspective: some sort of physical change takes place. The effects of that change however are much more subtle and minor than a lot of burn-in advocates claim. It's certainly not a "night and day" difference that occurs. As Mad Lust Envy and myself have said, it seems a bit telling that it's always the issues that a particular person has with a pair of headphones that seem to be corrected by some process of change.
I've only seen a small handful of reports on burn-in occurring for the worse. That is to say, the bass tightening up when someone wants more volume or the treble brightening when someone wants a darker headphone. If a substantial change did occur that wasn't mostly psychological, I think we'd see far more reports of this "worsening" with burn-in.
Oh, and I think it's a bit silly when people type out these long descriptions of just how the changes advanced in a non-linear way. That is to say: people claim during burn-in that the headphones will sound worse, then better, then worse, then even more worse, then a lot better, then a whole lot better. Or some combination of those descriptors.
Again, notice how it always seems to settle at the end on a better sound. Why not stop at worse? These sorts of descriptions read to me like someone's psychological struggle with trying to justify keeping a pair of headphones or returning them. "She loves me, she loves me not" and so forth.
Also our moods will change throughout the day, and the circumstances surrounding our listening sessions can change perceptions. Sometimes I'll come back to an old friend to find they sound pretty bad to me that particular day. Only for them to sound great a month later. Doesn't mean the change is in the headphones. The change is in me.
My 598 don't even need a MixAmp to position properly. It's kind of nice.
I play with my 598 via SA8004 and LF and have no problems. :D
Well it helps I'll admit. I can position well without it, but better with the MixAmp.
I've been considering rebuying one just to use with my 598.