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post #31 of 126

The price increase is only because to protect the local dealers, I think, cos if you say pay USD1400 in Japan plus shipping, US dealer asking USD1800, but now they are going to be the same, unless US dealer will increase his price as well, however this is theory only.

 

post #32 of 126

Test results depending on tube tester, cos each of them have their own measurings. Just geussing, but voor that price I would go and buy Takatsuki's, unless its pure for collection of coursewink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

A much less common tube even than the WE 300b original, but supposed to be even better sounding (I have never heard a pair). 

If you can get your hands on these at any kind of reasonable price, go for it.  I have smaller STC  DHT tubes used in a preamp

and they are great sounding tubes.

    They are expensive comparing to the Takatsuki 300B but less than the original WE 300B before 1988

     I will try to communicate with the seller   about the test result to know how much have they been used, what is the test value for new tubes?

I could not find the info anywhere

 



 

post #33 of 126

I think, cos if you say pay USD1400 in Japan plus shipping, US dealer asking USD1800,

     If that's the price of the Takatsuki 300B then the price difference between the STC4300B and the Takatsuki

is small.  I may consider purchasing that if there is some info from the seller that they are mint or strong test

or if he provides the value for new tube as Blackmore has pointed out that Test results depending on tube tester 

He has already provided the info of the test i.e.

450V   76mA/75mA
350V   78mA/75mA
      They seem to be well matched and hopefully  strong test , if not mint or NOS
       If they are rarely found and may be better sounding than the original WE300B then I will purchase this pair
before the Takatsuki ,  while I can wait for more impressions.
post #34 of 126

Ask the seller the minimum good value for 300B on his tester, but also what kind of tester they use, so you can check further. 300B are very difficult to test promptly, only the pro testers can do that.

Dont get me wrong, I am not saying you shouldn't get them, of course, they are very rare and probably best sounding, but then again, you will know this after you put them in and play, no other way to find out.

About Takatsuki's. From all reported impressions, non have been negative so far. I follow some users and they do not have the same amps, which is very important, but all of them were very impressed so far.

 

Let us know if you get these beautiful STC 4300B's.

 

THX

 


 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

I think, cos if you say pay USD1400 in Japan plus shipping, US dealer asking USD1800,

     If that's the price of the Takatsuki 300B then the price difference between the STC4300B and the Takatsuki

is small.  I may consider purchasing that if there is some info from the seller that they are mint or strong test

or if he provides the value for new tube as Blackmore has pointed out that Test results depending on tube tester 

He has already provided the info of the test i.e.

450V   76mA/75mA
350V   78mA/75mA
      They seem to be well matched and hopefully  strong test , if not mint or NOS
       If they are rarely found and may be better sounding than the original WE300B then I will purchase this pair
before the Takatsuki ,  while I can wait for more impressions.


 

post #35 of 126

Can you confirm that price increase is going to happened? Where this info are coming from? Also about EAT, can you share a little more please.

 

THX

 

 

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Originally Posted by nd4speed View Post

My order with Amtrans has been confirmed biggrin.gif. I also thought I would mention that I was told that in the middle of next month this tube will increase in price by 30,000 Yen (get your orders in now folks). The base will be black, but otherwise it will be the same tube.

 

Heheh, famous last words. wink.gif FYI, I received confirmation that EAT has gone back to the drawing board and is releasing a totally redesigned 300b in September. It should be a killer tube, and I'm really looking forward to it. If the WE reissues come through this year that would be the trifecta! 2012 is shaping up to be a great year for 300b.



 

post #36 of 126


 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

I think, cos if you say pay USD1400 in Japan plus shipping, US dealer asking USD1800

The Japan direct prices are $1300 USD plus shipping, but next month it will be about $1600 USD plus shipping (who knows what the US dist prices will be, likely over $2K).

 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View PostHe has already provided the info of the test i.e.
450V   76mA/75mA
350V   78mA/75mA

Here's the spec sheet on a 300b: http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/084/3/300B.pdf
The plate voltages look quite different between these tubes, not sure what the impact of this difference would be (both seem within normal range however). Blackmore's right, for this kind of money I would be asking if he's testing on an Amplitrex or a vintage tester.
 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

If they are rarely found and may be better sounding than the original WE300B...

That's a VERY bold claim, do you have more than just his opinion to go on? If this is true, this would be the tube deal of the century; vintage WEs from the 50s and 60s are going for what, $4K+?

 

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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post

The price increase is only because to protect the local dealers, I think, cos if you say pay USD1400 in Japan plus shipping, US dealer asking USD1800, but now they are going to be the same, unless US dealer will increase his price as well, however this is theory only.

 

I think this could be, but I think this is supply/demand driven. This is a whole new batch, and I think they have to consider previous demand (which is probably more than they anticipated) against their known production/qa costs from the last batch (actual vs. projected).

 

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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post

Can you confirm that price increase is going to happened? Where this info are coming from? Also about EAT, can you share a little more please.

 

THX

Yes, it's been confirmed by Amtrans (by Keiko) that the price increases are going into effect in the middle of next month (along with the different colored base). From November of 2011 EAT stopped all production on 300b tubes because they are totally redesigning it (with a projected release date of the middle of 2012). I contacted EAT about this redesign because I read about it elsewhere, and to my surprise the mastermind herself (Jozefina) contacted me back with confirmation of the redesign, and that the release will be in September.
 

 


Edited by nd4speed - 3/15/12 at 8:54am
post #37 of 126

Thank you nd4speed, clear enough.wink.gif

post #38 of 126

Here's what the newer tubes will look like.

300b.jpg

274b.jpg

post #39 of 126

What can I say, PERFECT!

post #40 of 126

How much will that 274b cost? Will they be sold individually?

post #41 of 126

Dear Blackmore, nd4speed,cjfrbw

    Thanks so much for all  of the inputs.

     It's quite difficult to communicate with him as he has limited English,  there may be some risk involving here.

But if they are at the same level as the original WE300B I may give them a try.

     The impression that this pair is probably better than the WE300B is from  other places and confirmed by cjfrbw

     This is part of a quote from http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1201/300b/index.html

     To denote the premium grade status O&J has chosen to use the STC UK 4300B designator

for the valve, the original STC 4300B is considered by many the best sounding 300B, quite a tall order to live up to.

      The impression from the same source also said that the STC4300B may be comparable to the original pre1988 WE300B

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/Magazine/equipment/0801/thorsten1/billie.htm

The Audio Note Japan Baransu is I think better through the bank (while not often in my system as I can't afford it and must beg for having it

over for an hour, it remains my 100 points reference but only if fitted with NOS pre 1988 WE 300B's or STC 4300B's).


Edited by kiertijai - 3/15/12 at 4:16pm
post #42 of 126

The Japan direct prices are $1300 USD plus shipping, but next month it will be about $1600 USD plus shipping

(who knows what the US dist prices will be, likely over $2K).

    I need to hurry about my decision on Takatsuki 300B

    Do you have any link how to order from Japan? thanks  

 

post #43 of 126

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

Dear Blackmore, nd4speed,cjfrbw

    Thanks so much for all  of the inputs.

     It's quite difficult to communicate with him as he has limited English,  there may be some risk involving here.

But if they are at the same level as the original WE300B I may give them a try.

     The impression that this pair is probably better than the WE300B is from  other places and confirmed by cjfrbw

     This is part of a quote from http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1201/300b/index.html

     To denote the premium grade status O&J has chosen to use the STC UK 4300B designator

for the valve, the original STC 4300B is considered by many the best sounding 300B, quite a tall order to live up to.

      The impression from the same source also said that the STC4300B may be comparable to the original pre1988 WE300B

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/Magazine/equipment/0801/thorsten1/billie.htm

The Audio Note Japan Baransu is I think better through the bank (while not often in my system as I can't afford it and must beg for having it

over for an hour, it remains my 100 points reference but only if fitted with NOS pre 1988 WE 300B's or STC 4300B's).

Very interesting links kiertijai, thanks. You might want to consider emailing the author to get a more direct take on it (and the article's from 2001, his reference points may have changed). I think you already know what you need to do though; take one for the team, get both and report back stat! tongue.gif

 

Here's the order link: http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amtrans.co.jp%2Fjp%2F201203%2Ftakatsuki300b.shtml&langpair=ja|en

 


 

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

How much will that 274b cost? Will they be sold individually?



I think this press release mentions it's 80,000 Yen a piece ($960 USD):

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.takatsuki-denki.co.jp%2Fpdf%2FTA-300B_TA-274B_pressrelease120308.pdf

 


Edited by nd4speed - 3/15/12 at 4:46pm
post #44 of 126

@nd4speed thanks for the info.

are there any difference between the Takatsuki 300B old and new , except for the price difference?

post #45 of 126

The black base with yellow print is just marketing move, cos their look become much closer to original WE, thats how I see it.

 

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Originally Posted by kiertijai View Post

@nd4speed thanks for the info.

are there any difference between the Takatsuki 300B old and new , except for the price difference?



 

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