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post #2101 of 2323
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post

I seem to be following @tdockweiler's path through headphones more or less: KRK KNS-8400 -> V-MODA M-100 -> AKG K55x -> Koss ProDJ100 with brief trysts with a few others along the way. I've had a ProDJ100 for a while but I never much used them. I don't like the stock pads. Then I swapped on some M50 pads and... they're not perfect but sometimes I think they're closer than anything else I've tried. I have a ProDJ200 arriving later this week because removable cable. I've never liked coiled cables.


@Baycode,

Optimally, whatever most closely matches the impedance characteristics of the original cable. "Premium" cables tend to be slightly lower impedance than the high grade OFC used in headphone and speaker cables. This makes your headphones and speakers around 1-3dB louder for a given volume setting (louder = sounds better if it's not already too loud). This can cause bass roll-off with super-low nominal impedance in-ears but the ProDJs have high enough nominal impedance that this shouldn't be a problem.

Since you're planning on removing the stock cable you might want to see about installing a 1/8" stereo jack instead and turn your 100 into a 200.

You need a Sennheiser. 

post #2102 of 2323
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Originally Posted by Fuzziekiwi View Post

You need a Sennheiser.

I'm no stranger to Sennheiser. The two oldest headphones I own are Sennheiser: HD 600 (easily 15 years old) and EH 350 (less than that but not by much).

Also had a Shure SRH840 a while back, didn't like them, though.
post #2103 of 2323
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Originally Posted by Baycode View Post

My DJ100 was for sale for nearly 1 year and nobody bought it. So I have removed it from its original packing and gave it another chance. Glad that I did smily_headphones1.gif I have burned in the DJ100 for 3 days and also bought the M50 pads. Although my M50 pads are 5USD non-original pads, they improved the sound and comfort very well. It would be a very big mistake if I sold them. They are keepers smily_headphones1.gif now I have to recable them. I had some SPC, Canare and Mogami wires... Which one would suit well? Also they sound fabulous out of a Meizu M3.

 

I recabled my old DJ100 and it was a major pain in the butt. I did it and removed all stock wiring and that's kind of overkill since you can still get some benefits of a recable with the internal wiring still there.

For my Tony Bennett version I love Mogami W2893 (dirt cheap). It has very good shielding but is really not the best for portable use.

 

Most of the time I use my Cardas HP1 cable I got from Headroom on sale for $35 or so. It's a bit more pricey but it was worth it.

 

If you can buy in bulk, I also like ALO SXC (silver plated copper) but it's not a good match for some headphones like the Q701. It actually made that one sound thinner, which I could guess why, but I don't want to go there. My idea is it's very low capacitance.

 

Instead of recabling, the TB version can probably still be found for $50 maybe. It's a steal at that.

 

BTW sometimes I think my TB with M50 pads sounds like a weird mix between the HD-650 and Q701. It's hard to describe. It manages to be very full sounding but never muffled and always crystal clear. I don't think I could ever get it to sound harsh if I tried.

 

The closest I could get to the TB + M50 pads sound (well amped) is a bass modded (ONLY) Q701 with less treble and more low bass. Basically it's be spot on. Note: This resulting sound isn't the K712 sound at all.

 

When I listen to my HD-650 and Q701 after the DJ100 they're just a lot more boring. I don't mean bad, but not as fun to listen to. That's not to say the TB is more colored. I think the Q701 and HD-650 drivers are really nothing special at all, but I love them.'

 

Unrelated note.. I can't understand people who dislike the O2 + HD-650. Bizarre. That combo is really great when paired with the Schiit Modi.


Edited by tdockweiler - 5/28/14 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post
 

 

I recabled my old DJ100 and it was a major pain in the butt. I did it and removed all stock wiring and that's kind of overkill since you can still get some benefits of a recable with the internal wiring still there.

For my Tony Bennett version I love Mogami W2893 (dirt cheap). It has very good shielding but is really not the best for portable use.

 

Most of the time I use my Cardas HP1 cable I got from Headroom on sale for $35 or so. It's a bit more pricey but it was worth it.

 

If you can buy in bulk, I also like ALO SXC (silver plated copper) but it's not a good match for some headphones like the Q701. It actually made that one sound thinner, which I could guess why, but I don't want to go there. My idea is it's very low capacitance.

 

Instead of recabling, the TB version can probably still be found for $50 maybe. It's a steal at that.

 

BTW sometimes I think my TB with M50 pads sounds like a weird mix between the HD-650 and Q701. It's hard to describe. It manages to be very full sounding but never muffled and always crystal clear. I don't think I could ever get it to sound harsh if I tried.

 

The closest I could get to the TB + M50 pads sound (well amped) is a bass modded (ONLY) Q701 with less treble and more low bass. Basically it's be spot on. Note: This resulting sound isn't the K712 sound at all.

 

When I listen to my HD-650 and Q701 after the DJ100 they're just a lot more boring. I don't mean bad, but not as fun to listen to. That's not to say the TB is more colored. I think the Q701 and HD-650 drivers are really nothing special at all, but I love them.'

 

Unrelated note.. I can't understand people who dislike the O2 + HD-650. Bizarre. That combo is really great when paired with the Schiit Modi.

 

Thanks for the information :)

 

I think I will go for the Canare mini star quad cable.

 

I got excellent results with that cable on my PortaPro.

 

I also want to mod the inside of the cup. I think I will use some thin cork sheet.

 

I will inform...

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Yesssss...corksheeeeetssss!
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Cork sheet's on the inside does what for the sound of these?
post #2107 of 2323
Organicise the sound, give it a natural richness...
Away with the plasticised reverbs:-)
post #2108 of 2323
Thanks!
I will have to get some and experiment, any specific thickness or the thinner the better?
post #2109 of 2323

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............

post #2110 of 2323

Are the mids recessed on these?

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Also, I don't know how much they usually go for, but they are on sale for $42 on amazon right now. That is why I am curious about the sound signature. 

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Originally Posted by Doorbell View Post
 

Are the mids recessed on these?

No they are very forward. Far from recessed. 

post #2113 of 2323
The most Mid-Centric headphones I own. (TBSE Version)

$42 is a great deal, I picked up the TBSE's on blowout for $29.95 quite a while back.
post #2114 of 2323
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Originally Posted by Doorbell View Post

Also, I don't know how much they usually go for, but they are on sale for $42 on amazon right now. That is why I am curious about the sound signature.

The Koss MSRP is $80 so getting them at $42 is a very good price. You might find better on eBay but, well, eBay.
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Great, thanks for the info. I've been looking for some mid-centric headphones. Hopefully I like them. I need to stop searching for the perfect headphone and just find something I like, within my budget. 


Edited by Doorbell - 5/31/14 at 11:17pm
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