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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I don't know where you found that comparison (did I make it somewhere?) but I don't think that the Dolphin's are brighter NIR do I find the DJ100's leas fatiguing (I find both very little fatiguing). The soundstage on the Dolphin's is better but not much better.

Hope this helps smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks
One more thing
How do they compare in overall clarity and detail?
post #2087 of 2238
I'd say that overall detail is pretty similar, maybe with a slight edge to the DJ 100.

Both has great clarity but the Dolphin's are much fullern sounding overall and on direct comparison the DJ100 almost sounds a bit hollow sometimes. I've never noticed this before with them.......
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I'd say that overall detail is pretty similar, maybe with a slight edge to the DJ 100.

Both has great clarity but the Dolphin's are much fullern sounding overall and on direct comparison the DJ100 almost sounds a bit hollow sometimes. I've never noticed this before with them.......
Thanks again
The reason im asking is because I might upgrade(idk if i can really call it a full upgrade) to the dolphins. The main problems for me was how thin they sound and the lack of isolation. Now Im pretty much set on the dolphins.
post #2089 of 2238
I really like both but I'd say that the Dolphin's is a step above since I prefer their signature more, YMMV wink.gif

The isolation on the Dolphin's is top notch.
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Not going to quote your post Tdock but it was myself who said the TBSE were a tad brighter then the DJ100, Ive concluded it has to do with the cable on the TBSE.  NOTE: I'm not a cable believer but it does make a difference on this set for sure.  I switched out the stock cable for a Choseal cable ($5 on ebay) and they sound much better.  Ive also settled on Shure 840 pads on my DJ100, they are a bit brighter and the bass is a little less but comfort wise and the build is better then then M50s by a mile.

 With the Shure pads the mids just shine...  After the cable swap on the TBSE the M50 pads are the way to go, the Shures are WAY too bright.  Even with the cable swap the TBSE are still brighter but a new cable tames it quite a lot.

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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

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No popcorn needed, it's true!!!

Just buy a $5 Choseal and you'll hear it plain as day!!!

(Rocking them right now)

 

 

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Edited by Magicman74 - 5/14/14 at 8:30am
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Imma have to check this out!

post #2094 of 2238
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

Imma have to check this out!


Yeah it's only $5 off ebay.  No need to go all crazy on a cable IMO,  The Choseal is a little wider but is softer, lighter and easier to deal.

Less then $5 (That is for 6ft)  I also use a short 10 inch for my portable set up.  Seen in the picture, 10x better then Fiio cables.  BUT you have to ask the seller to get you one as they don't list the small cables on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Choseal-Q-354-6ft-Gold-1-8mm-Male-to-Male-Audio-Cable-N-/110739303786?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item19c893ad6a

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Nice!
Thanks for the link!
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Nice!
Thanks for the link!

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No problem always glad to pass on info to save a few bucks and get a great product!!

post #2097 of 2238
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

I'll have to dust off my TBSE's again. They didn't really appeal to me, but I should give them another listen.

 

@Zombie_X, I see you have the DT1350's. I just got a pair as well, and wow - that is some amazing sound. I can only imagine what the T1's sound like :)

 

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Originally Posted by Magicman74 View Post
 

Not going to quote your post Tdock but it was myself who said the TBSE were a tad brighter then the DJ100, Ive concluded it has to do with the cable on the TBSE.  NOTE: I'm not a cable believer but it does make a difference on this set for sure.  I switched out the stock cable for a Choseal cable ($5 on ebay) and they sound much better.  Ive also settled on Shure 840 pads on my DJ100, they are a bit brighter and the bass is a little less but comfort wise and the build is better then then M50s by a mile.

 With the Shure pads the mids just shine...  After the cable swap on the TBSE the M50 pads are the way to go, the Shures are WAY too bright.  Even with the cable swap the TBSE are still brighter but a new cable tames it quite a lot.

 

I did manage to move my ass and dig out the TBSE's. I didn't listen to them with the stock cable again, but threw on a cheapo/shorter cable that I got from the Source a while back. I prepared myself to be disappointed, but was surprised to actually be quite happy. Wtf? The next day, I tried them with a cheapo beats cable that I got for my Mikros 90's (which don't do them justice), and the TBSE's sound pretty great with it as well! Quite a bit more bass though, and I think I'll go back to the other Source cheapo cable. But the moral of the story is that I'm liking these things quite a bit now. They don't compete with my Nf'd T50RP's, but they are quite light, and do sound very enjoyable, and I think they may have a place in my heart lol. I may even look into the M50 pads (hoping that they are not very expensive).

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Also, the TBSE's sound a lot better to me off of the C&C BH amp than the Fiio E12 amp. Off of the E12, they sound a bit flat and constricted. Off of the C&C BH amp, they sound more forward, spacious and engaging (and even more so when you turn on the C&C BH's LF and SF switches). So as usual, source and synergy is important.

post #2099 of 2238
My DJ100 was for sale for nearly 1 year and nobody bought it. So I have removed it from its original packing and gave it another chance. Glad that I did smily_headphones1.gif I have burned in the DJ100 for 3 days and also bought the M50 pads. Although my M50 pads are 5USD non-original pads, they improved the sound and comfort very well. It would be a very big mistake if I sold them. They are keepers smily_headphones1.gif now I have to recable them. I had some SPC, Canare and Mogami wires... Which one would suit well? Also they sound fabulous out of a Meizu M3.
Edited by Baycode - 5/27/14 at 1:31pm
post #2100 of 2238
I seem to be following @tdockweiler's path through headphones more or less: KRK KNS-8400 -> V-MODA M-100 -> AKG K55x -> Koss ProDJ100 with brief trysts with a few others along the way. I've had a ProDJ100 for a while but I never much used them. I don't like the stock pads. Then I swapped on some M50 pads and... they're not perfect but sometimes I think they're closer than anything else I've tried. I have a ProDJ200 arriving later this week because removable cable. I've never liked coiled cables.


@Baycode,

Optimally, whatever most closely matches the impedance characteristics of the original cable. "Premium" cables tend to be slightly lower impedance than the high grade OFC used in headphone and speaker cables. This makes your headphones and speakers around 1-3dB louder for a given volume setting (louder = sounds better if it's not already too loud). This can cause bass roll-off with super-low nominal impedance in-ears but the ProDJs have high enough nominal impedance that this shouldn't be a problem.

Since you're planning on removing the stock cable you might want to see about installing a 1/8" stereo jack instead and turn your 100 into a 200.
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